Not where we want to be, but its a long season
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Lol what a,crock ! So no Allen for VT. No k or Jefferson for fla st or UL ! Working injured players in and out all year . What a moronic article . If anybody has an excuse it is duke
I agree with you....However I think despite the injuries there's still enough talent on hand where we could be playing BETTER OVERALL as a team. I guess thats my concern....
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Consider the source.
The author is Aaron Torres. Here's an actual quote from HIS website (aarontorresonline.com): "As a writer who covers college football and college basketball...Aaron Torres has quickly emerged as one of the most dynamic young voices in the sports media landscape...Torres has shown the unique ability to mix both humor and intellect, while displaying an ability to produce both well-reported feature stories and strong opinion columns as well."
He's also a Kentucky fan boy:
The author is Aaron Torres. Here's an actual quote from HIS website (aarontorresonline.com): "As a writer who covers college football and college basketball...Aaron Torres has quickly emerged as one of the most dynamic young voices in the sports media landscape...Torres has shown the unique ability to mix both humor and intellect, while displaying an ability to produce both well-reported feature stories and strong opinion columns as well."
He's also a Kentucky fan boy:
Very good to know!!! No wonder the cheap potshots and ignoring fact we're not completely healthy!!! Thus a lot of anti-Duke sentiment in there, even though I know our boys can play better....
As for Mr.Torres, per all Kentucky fans I say "see ya Laettner!!!"
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No we don't. We're a fringe top 25 team right now. Jason and Frank have no 'injury' excuse and neither is playing anywhere close to their high school rankings. Where Jason was ranked, he should be having a Monk/Fox/Fultz/Jackson season and he's nowhere close to that. Ditto for Frank and Bolden, who were ranked like Miles Bridges and TJ Leaf. Our fans have become very whiny, it's annoying.
Let me ask you a? Wildcat have any of those guys had injuries?? It is not fair to compare . Missing the first month of the season.It is devastating to young players and we had three of them miss that much. Frank has been hampered with a ankle injury for quite some time. I would give all of them a little more time .
I think our lackluster play is clearly due to freshman disconnect. They are green and they are not buying in. Often our guys are playing as if there is one guy in front of them. The freshmen are not looking for teammates on O or to help on D. They are still playing like they are the one star among high school boys. They need to wake up and play to 1, create opportunities for others and to 2, bail out others when their man beats them. I've seen very little of that. Not all of it is selfishness of course. There's a lot of plain inexperience out there. Even Jeter overruns plays badly and delays too long when not in position to score. We'll get better, but how much is the question we're all impatiently waiting to get the answer to. Hopefully K is cooking up some motivational lessons that will turn this crap fest around.
That's precisely what I've been saying. No one argues they need to move the ball and get others involved but like you said, I don't think it's pure selfishness of I have to get mine, I think it's a lot of I only know how to do this. They're inexperienced all at once and it shows. They'll get there I think and it's frustrating to watch, a lot, but chastising them probably isn't the answer. You can say do this until your purple in the face but if you don't know what this is? Or how to get there, it's not going to get better. These kids need to be taught and learn on the fly.
It's frustrating because similar ranked guys have showed this ability sooner. Even still, guys that have done very well so far, Monk for example, have had moments where they hog the ball or play horrible help D. Our problems have been amplified by spotty attendance, in games and in practice.
Lol idiot author must not realize that if Duke were playing in that garbage conference that U.K. Plays in, Dukes only loss right now would still be Kansas.
Lots of opportunities left ON THE COURT to prove the naysayers wrong.
I thought everything but the last sentence was fair. I was one that thought (pre-season) that we could certainly go all year and not lose 4 games. Many here did at the time too. We have already lost 4. Of course there are circumstances that we couldn't have anticipated. But I think most of us are disappointed with how the season has gone thus far. And to say Duke has been disappointing (which was the point of the article), well I think that's fair. I take some issue with "Duke isn't good." We aren't very good right now. But I don't think it means we can't be.
Comparing our guys to those other freshmen isn't fair at all. Like someone early said, the SEC isn't the ACC (not even in football...lol). Bridges and Fultz are part of their own "underachieving" teams also, and again play in much weaker conferences. They will figure it out.
Guess how many games we've lost with a full lineup? Try zero. We've had a starter miss every game we've lost. Kansas- Tatum/Giles; VT- Grayson; FSU/Louisville- Amile (and K). We're 3-0 with a full lineup, which doesn't mean that we're going to be head and shoulders above everyone else, but this team has clearly lost out on a lot of time to develop chemistry.
Ding DING DING DING!!! But yet, everyone who says that are the ones that are whining apparently. Give this team a chance to play together and see what happens. If we still have problems in mid feb, then i'll throw in the towel- there is still time.
I think it is actually fair to compare to other freshman....I know they have had some injuries but at the same time many of the other freshman like on Kentucky and UCLA and also Jackson at KU looked a lot better from day one.....All these teams are just getting into conference play as are we. I am sure the lack of preseason plays a part, but that is not an excuse for Tatum and Jackson, something is a miss with our guys and you could see it early on......I know we where outplayed by Kansas in that game but all I want to see is the heart that they had and did not quit and almost pulled it out, since then I have not seen that unless we are shooting well and that hides a lot of flaws.
I hope we come together, but we are a ways off, but there is time, but they all need to look in the mirror and start adjusting or this is going to be a long season, it all starts with defense and it is tough to watch.
No kidding. I couldn't tell if he was trying to be facetious with that statement or not.
It was neither ironic nor facetious. It was critical.
We don't need lame excuses for why we're as mediocre as we are. It's pretty clear - our Frosh have really underwhelmed and played nothing like their high school rankings. I can't imagine there's any direction but up for them, hopefully WAY up.
We have literally played games where all but 1 of our top 8 players have missed. People are surprised that we've struggled because we are Duke, bottom line!
Dukes problem is that the Freshman are showing no improvement from game to game and in return they become very predictable to opposing teams.
The injury bug has set the freshman back and the loss of Amile has hurt however if Duke can't win on the road then no one should be wondering anything but the players.
I was one who thought we put it all together at the GT game only to watch Duke fall apart against BC.
Duke also has no sense of defense and teams attack the basket at will forcing the issue that in returns opens up for outside shooters because the players become concearned with stopping the drive.
No true shot blocker and no true force downlow. Could that change sure but I want to see it on the road not the next two home games.
The injury bug has set the freshman back and the loss of Amile has hurt however if Duke can't win on the road then no one should be wondering anything but the players.
I was one who thought we put it all together at the GT game only to watch Duke fall apart against BC.
Duke also has no sense of defense and teams attack the basket at will forcing the issue that in returns opens up for outside shooters because the players become concearned with stopping the drive.
No true shot blocker and no true force downlow. Could that change sure but I want to see it on the road not the next two home games.
We do have to become a better road team, regardless of our injury situation. Its not like the talent isnt there, even without Amile....
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