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Hungry Jack

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I thought I would start a thread, updated weekly, where I present some of the key metrics for our season. Feel free to make any suggestions:

Sunday January 15:

Record
Overall:15-4
B1G: 4-2
Home: 10-1
Away: 3-2
Neutral: 2-1 (Texas, ND, Dayton)

Power Ranking
RPI: 38
Ken Pom: 33
Sagarin: 33
Sagarin SOS: 70
Coaches Poll: 26
AP: T29 (7 votes)

Quality Wins (RPI<50)
Dayton 28
Wake 30

Notable Wins (RPI<100)
Penn St 65
Nebraska 69 (Jan 21)

Bad Losses (RPI > 150)
-

Bracketology
Lunardi/ ESPN - 9 East (Buffalo)
Palm / CBS - 7 West (Indianapolis)
SB Nation - 10 West (Sacramento)

Charliemeter
Charlie Hall appearances: 4
 
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This is good, Jack. Thanks for doing it. I don't know that I've seen a top 65 category. Is that just to give Penn State some juice?

I would recommend using 50 and 100 as the categorical cutoff.

It would be interesting (though lots of work) if you could add projected NCAA placement by some of the heavy hitters (Lunardi, Palm, etc.)
 
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Hungry Jack said:
I thought I would start a thread, updated weekly, where I present some of the key metrics for our season. Feel free to make any suggestions:

Sunday January 15:

Record
Overall:15-4
B1G: 4-2
Home: 10-1
Away: 3-2
Neutral: 2-1 (Texas, ND, Wake)

Power
RPI: 38
Ken Pom: 33
Sagarin: 33
Sagarin SOS: 70

Quality Wins (RPI<65)
Dayton 28
Wake 30
Penn St 65

Notable Wins (RPI<100)
-

Bad Losses (RPI > 150)
-
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This is great, thanks! Could you also include position in each poll?
 
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Hungry Jack said:
I thought I would start a thread, updated weekly, where I present some of the key metrics for our season. Feel free to make any suggestions:

Sunday January 15:

Record
Overall:15-4
B1G: 4-2
Home: 10-1
Away: 3-2
Neutral: 2-1 (Texas, ND, Dayton)

Power Ranking
RPI: 38
Ken Pom: 33
Sagarin: 33
Sagarin SOS: 70
Coaches Poll: 26
AP: T29 (7 votes)

Quality Wins (RPI<50)
Dayton 28
Wake 30

Notable Wins (RPI<100)
Penn St 65

Bad Losses (RPI > 150)
-

Bracketology
Lunardi/ ESPN - 9 East (Buffalo)
Palm / CBS - 7 West (Indianapolis)
SB Nation - 10 West (Sacramento)

Charliemeter
Charlie Hall appearances: 4
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Thanks for doing this. Excellent. A stat I would like to see, though it might be misleading unless we leave out the "non-entity" team contests from early in the season is: Average winning margin in games won, and average losing margin in games lost.
 
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Can you include a stat on how many times TheC punches his tv set during the games (to get you started, there were amazingly no punches thrown during the last game!).
 
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TheC said:
Can you include a stat on how many times TheC punches his tv set during the games (to get you started, there were amazingly no punches thrown during the last game!).
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Not even a celebration punch?
 
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Hungry Jack

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Palindrome said:
Thanks for doing this. Excellent. A stat I would like to see, though it might be misleading unless we leave out the "non-entity" team contests from early in the season is: Average winning margin in games won, and average losing margin in games lost.
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Sorry, but that's too much work!
 
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TheC said:
Can you include a stat on how many times TheC punches his tv set during the games (to get you started, there were amazingly no punches thrown during the last game!).
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Just contacted my "guy" who says O/U is 2.5 punches for OSU game. Who's got the over?
 
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Hungry Jack said:
Sorry, but that's too much work!
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Yeah this is great...

First one person takes initiative and does the work to come up with and post something that gives a concise summary of key metrics to track NU's performance and progress.
Second a bunch of other people proclaim it is super useful and are like "why don't you add this, then this, oh this would be cool, can you find this, and I'd like to see that," without volunteering to help with any of it.
Third you end up with something that is neither concise nor a summary, and the original person who took the initiative cause it would be fun and rewarding grows to no longer enjoy putting the info together on a regular basis.

Hmmm I've never seen something like this happen anywhere else, ever.......

... Thank you Hungry Jack, appreciate the idea and please feel free to keep posting updates if you want. Go Cats!

(PS in the corporate world, Fourth the original person then gets a team of a few people assigned to help him or her out, and then over time it gradually becomes a clumsy behemoth of a report that many people spend lots of time preparing, and few actually read.
Fifth in some rare circumstances a senior person may even assign someone to give a "verbal summary" of the key takeaways from that original summary report at a weekly meeting or something.)
 
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Please, just keep winning and having fun! If we do make the big tourney this year for the first time- I think CC should get Big Ten coach of the year. With all the injuries that we have had this year- I think getting to the dance will quite an accomplishment.
 
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ricko654321 said:
Yeah this is great...

First one person takes initiative and does the work to come up with and post something that gives a concise summary of key metrics to track NU's performance and progress.
Second a bunch of other people proclaim it is super useful and are like "why don't you add this, then this, oh this would be cool, can you find this, and I'd like to see that," without volunteering to help with any of it.
Third you end up with something that is neither concise nor a summary, and the original person who took the initiative cause it would be fun and rewarding grows to no longer enjoy putting the info together on a regular basis.

Hmmm I've never seen something like this happen anywhere else, ever.......

... Thank you Hungry Jack, appreciate the idea and please feel free to keep posting updates if you want. Go Cats!

(PS in the corporate world, Fourth the original person then gets a team of a few people assigned to help him or her out, and then over time it gradually becomes a clumsy behemoth of a report that many people spend lots of time preparing, and few actually read.
Fifth in some rare circumstances a senior person may even assign someone to give a "verbal summary" of the key takeaways from that original summary report at a weekly meeting or something.)
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In our defense, HJ asked for suggestions in the OP. We are nothing on WR if not obedient.

Did I say obedient? I meant obnoxious.
 
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Hungry Jack

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ricko654321 said:
Yeah this is great...

First one person takes initiative and does the work to come up with and post something that gives a concise summary of key metrics to track NU's performance and progress.
Second a bunch of other people proclaim it is super useful and are like "why don't you add this, then this, oh this would be cool, can you find this, and I'd like to see that," without volunteering to help with any of it.
Third you end up with something that is neither concise nor a summary, and the original person who took the initiative cause it would be fun and rewarding grows to no longer enjoy putting the info together on a regular basis.

Hmmm I've never seen something like this happen anywhere else, ever.......

... Thank you Hungry Jack, appreciate the idea and please feel free to keep posting updates if you want. Go Cats!

(PS in the corporate world, Fourth the original person then gets a team of a few people assigned to help him or her out, and then over time it gradually becomes a clumsy behemoth of a report that many people spend lots of time preparing, and few actually read.
Fifth in some rare circumstances a senior person may even assign someone to give a "verbal summary" of the key takeaways from that original summary report at a weekly meeting or something.)
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What's that saying about a horse assembled by committee is a donkey, or an elephant, or some other creature?

I am going to stick to the metrics that I found described in the NCAA selection criteria, plus a few related ones. They specifically mention RPI, but many of us around here seem to reference KenPom, so I included both and threw in Sagarin for good measure.

To my knowledge, the NCAA does not track Charlie Hall's participation, but it still could be a useful metric. If we continue to generate laughers, the Charliemeter will skyrocket!
 
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ricko654321 said:
Yeah this is great...

First one person takes initiative and does the work to come up with and post something that gives a concise summary of key metrics to track NU's performance and progress.
Second a bunch of other people proclaim it is super useful and are like "why don't you add this, then this, oh this would be cool, can you find this, and I'd like to see that," without volunteering to help with any of it.
Third you end up with something that is neither concise nor a summary, and the original person who took the initiative cause it would be fun and rewarding grows to no longer enjoy putting the info together on a regular basis.

Hmmm I've never seen something like this happen anywhere else, ever.......

... Thank you Hungry Jack, appreciate the idea and please feel free to keep posting updates if you want. Go Cats!

(PS in the corporate world, Fourth the original person then gets a team of a few people assigned to help him or her out, and then over time it gradually becomes a clumsy behemoth of a report that many people spend lots of time preparing, and few actually read.
Fifth in some rare circumstances a senior person may even assign someone to give a "verbal summary" of the key takeaways from that original summary report at a weekly meeting or something.)
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There's great joy in, three months later, ceasing to send the report and seeing if anybody asks about it.

Signed, former data monkey
 
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TheC said:
In our defense, HJ asked for suggestions in the OP. We are nothing on WR if not obedient.

Did I say obedient? I meant obnoxious.
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haha yeah he did, and i wasn't really trying to take a shot at anyone in particular... the entire sequence of the thread just made me laugh when i read it
 
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I've been thinking about how all week, Hungary. Don't disappoint us. (Oh, sh*t - you updated it with my recommendations. I'm honored.)
 
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Hungry Jack said:
I thought I would start a thread, updated weekly, where I present some of the key metrics for our season. Feel free to make any suggestions:

Sunday January 15:

Record
Overall:15-4
B1G: 4-2
Home: 10-1
Away: 3-2
Neutral: 2-1 (Texas, ND, Dayton)

Power Ranking
RPI: 38
Ken Pom: 33
Sagarin: 33
Sagarin SOS: 70
Coaches Poll: 26
AP: T29 (7 votes)

Quality Wins (RPI<50)
Dayton 28
Wake 30

Notable Wins (RPI<100)
Penn St 65
Nebraska

Bad Losses (RPI > 150)
-

Bracketology
Lunardi/ ESPN - 9 East (Buffalo)
Palm / CBS - 7 West (Indianapolis)
SB Nation - 10 West (Sacramento)

Charliemeter
Charlie Hall appearances: 4
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Now the updates are going to start to get really interesting
 
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Hungry Jack

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Monday January 23: (note: polls and brackets not current; will update asap)

Record
Overall:16-4
B1G: 5-2
Home: 10-1
Away: 4-2
Neutral: 2-1 (Texas-W, ND-L, Dayton-W)

Power Ranking
RPI (per ESPN): 35
Ken Pom: 31
Sagarin: 32
Sagarin SOS: 66
Coaches Poll: pending
AP: 28

Quality Wins (RPI<50)
Dayton 31 (N)
Wake 22 (H)

Notable Wins (RPI<100)
Nebraska 59 (A)
Penn St 66 (A)
Ohio St 78 (A)

Bad Losses (RPI > 150)
-

Bracketology
Lunardi/ ESPN - 9 East (Buffalo)
Palm / CBS - 7 West (Sacremento)
SB Nation - 10 West (Sacramento)

Charliemeter
Charlie Hall appearances: 4

Jordash Meter:
Hyperbolic statements about Jordan Ash: 3,481
 
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Hungry Jack

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Weird stat of the day: Palm has New Orleans as one of his first four games, along with Wake (that must be some kind of mistake?)
 
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