O'Brian

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He had quite a stellar collegiate and professional career /s

So you're saying he played more professional games than Joe Paterno, Nick Saban, Bill Belichick, Bobby Bowden, Dabo Swinney, etc combined, right?

I'll never understand the logic that one's success on the field has any impact to their potential success as a coach.
 

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Biggest "administrative" FUBAR of HCJF career to date:
After restructuring the staff after 2022, NOT having a QB coach on staff. That was coaching malpractice - and that keeps paying dividends today. I said it when it happened, and it didn't take a savant.

Whatever one thinks of Kotelnicki as an OC, Kotelnicki is NOT a QB coach.
And placing Allar's development into the hands of Danny O'Brien was malpractice. (I expect OBrien might have been a wonderful young guy to have as a GA-type developmental staff member, so nothing against OBrien per se. Who knows, somewhere down the line he may have a perfectly capable career).

If given the choice of who to pilfer from the Kansas staff:
1) Hiring Kotelnicki to be the new OC
or
2) Hiring Zebrowski (he is a long-time QB coach who spent much of his career with Kansas coach Leopold) to be a QB Coach

The better option - by far - would have been to hire away Zebrowski (not that Zebrowski would be my #1 choice for the job, but between those two options, B is clearly the best). I said that the day he (HCJF) made that move - it was easy enough to see at the time, and has only proven to be obvious every day since then.
To leave Allar "naked" - when HCJF had, and has, a blank check to hire anyone in the country - was, and is, almost unbelievable.
 
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So you're saying he played more professional games than Joe Paterno, Nick Saban, Bill Belichick, Bobby Bowden, Dabo Swinney, etc combined, right?

I'll never understand the logic that one's success on the field has any impact to their potential success as a coach.
His pre-PSU coaching history is even more impressive /s
 
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Biggest "administrative" FUBAR of HCJF career to date:
After restructuring the staff after 2022, NOT having a QB coach on staff. That was coaching malpractice - and that keeps paying dividends today. I said it when it happened, and it didn't take a savant.

Whatever one thinks of Kotelnicki as an OC, Kotelnicki is NOT a QB coach.
And placing Allar's development into the hands of Danny O'Brien was malpractice. (I expect OBrien might have been a wonderful young guy to have as a GA-type developmental staff member, so nothing against OBrien per se. Who knows, somewhere down the line he may have a perfectly capable career).

If given the choice of who to pilfer from the Kansas staff:
1) Hiring Kotelnicki to be the new OC
or
2) Hiring Zebrowski (he is a long-time QB coach who spent much of his career with Kansas coach Leopold) to be a QB Coach

The better option - by far - would have been to hire away Zebrowski (not that Zebrowski would be my #1 choice for the job, but between those two options, B is clearly the best). I said that the day he (HCJF) made that move - it was easy enough to see at the time, and has only proven to be obvious every day since then.
To leave Allar "naked" - when HCJF had, and has, a blank check to hire anyone in the country - was, and is, almost unbelievable.
Good post and if I may add.....CJF was a College quarterback and a NFL and College wide receiver coach...which seems to make me wonder why he never had a QB coach till 2022 and hasn't had a quality WR room since Gattis left?