Official PSU - Nebraska '25 game thread

donaldfair71

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Ha. And Franklin, at his VoTech introduction, had the audacity to declare himself a players coach who was going to hold players accountable. The guy is a legend in his own mind.
In my limited Al Bundy of Coaching experience, I’ve always found people who declare themselves players coaches to be just people uncomfortable dispatching discipline. So instead they posit themselves advocates of their guys to never have to dispatch it.
 

rigi19040

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There is a rumor on X from a previous commits parent(probably not to be trusted), that the second Franklin got fired the guys running the NIL department reached out to the commits and said whatever the school offered in NIL was now null in void and wouldn't be revisted until a new coach was found. Just this week, a few key members of the NIL group signed on with Franklin. Im not saying this is true, I mean Andy Frank, did leave for Franklin's staff, but it would explain the mass exodus of commits. And if this is true, than there was no plan by Kraft for these recruits or this department at all.

How is Kraft going to stop a Franklin staffer from contacting recruits?
 

rigi19040

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Can't overlook the fact that Smith started out with no experience Grunk at quarterback. Now Grunk is playing at a level at least equal to where Allar was this season.
That is a big accomplishment for Smith.

Not the same. Allar was throwing 25+ times a game. Also had games with 10+ runs in some games.

Grunk had 12 passes vs Nebraska . Leading receiver was actually RB2. Only 8 passes down field to the WRs. Psu ran the ball 34-40 times the last two weeks.
 

Ram20

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How is Kraft going to stop a Franklin staffer from contacting recruits?
That is not the inference. The inference is that certain guys running the recruiting/nil department, while still at Penn state, told these kids to decommit, then these staffers left for virgina tech once Franklin got the job. Note to ADs, once you fire a coach, you need to fire his generals too.
 

Erial_Lion

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That is not the inference. The inference is that certain guys running the recruiting/nil department, while still at Penn state, told these kids to decommit, then these staffers left for virgina tech once Franklin got the job. Note to ADs, once you fire a coach, you need to fire his generals too.
Are there any actual credible reports of this? Sounds like a huge case of Message Board BS.
 

Ram20

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Are there any actual credible reports of this? Sounds like a huge case of Message Board BS.
It's 100% social media conjecture, not verified at all. The only thing making me believe some version of it being true is the amount of decommitments compared to other programs. It's such a staggering amount that it make you believe there is something else at play. Clearly these kids were not committed to the school at all. What would make them all turn heel so fast? Sure, they LOVE Franklin, but an exodus of this kind is sort of shocking. If they were all told to decommit and that there would be no NIL funds for them, that would at least be one plausible reason. For those critical of Kraft(I havent been one), I think the fact that he fired Franklin and apparently didn't have a plan for the recruits/NIL department, again, not saying that is the case, but the results on retaining this class suggest so.....that would be a huge lack of foresight from Kraft. You can't fire the coach and keep his recruiting Department.
 

NoBareFeet

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Not the same. Allar was throwing 25+ times a game. Also had games with 10+ runs in some games.

Grunk had 12 passes vs Nebraska . Leading receiver was actually RB2. Only 8 passes down field to the WRs. Psu ran the ball 34-40 times the last two weeks.
Better coaching/play calling!
 

PAgeologist

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A recruit’s father said that PSU employees were encouraging players to decommit, while still employed by PSU? Any links? That’s incredibly far fetched.
Its in one of the threads discussing the topic, of which there are several. Ill see if I can dig it up. Or maybe somebody else can repost it.
 

Mufasa94

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He was a very successful head coach at Gateway HS.
For a fan base that was frustrated by the previous coach’s continuous failures in big games, lauding a potential replacement when their best showings for about a decade were losing in their league’s title game 4 out of 4 times isn’t a big selling point, especially when his team supposedly had the most talent multiple times.

Now, Terry Smith the HS player tied in the title game one year, and then won it the next. Unfortunately, his college eligibility is over with along with his playing condition due to age.
 

Erial_Lion

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New Coach thread. Post 3316.
I've put the post it's referring to below. There are a lot of ways to interpret that screen shot (it's not very well written), but the "the NIL department had all the commits" could mean that their lack of firm commitments on NIL (as you'd expect right now) made the players all want to reopen their commitments. Much more realistic, since the chances of someone on PSU's payroll actually telling recruits "you should decommit from PSU and go to "x"" is asking for getting blackballed by future opportunities in the industry, potential lawsuits, etc, etc. Plus we get the old "I can't 100% confirm this", which people somehow still eat up.

I miss the old days when you could just read something that someone like Sekrah says online and take it as gospel.

 

Erial_Lion

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And now time for the bitter fan in me to come out (it doesn't happen often)...I find it funny when a recruit's father talks about all of the instability at PSU and the fact that he can't send his son to a place that's in flux...and instead, sends him to Syracuse. I'm sure that Fran Bown will be there for life while on a 7 game losing streak, and getting beat 70-7 by Notre Dame in a game that wasn't nearly as close as the score might indicate.

Ok, back to my normal programming.
 

Erial_Lion

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It is not that far fetched. Did you follow the team in 2013 when Franklin came here from Vanderbilt? Ask vandy what they think.
It’s very far fetched. It’s one thing to take a new job, hire a bunch of guys from your former employer, and convince recruits and players to follow you. It’s another to be collecting a paycheck from a school while actively trying to get recruits to leave your school in anticipation of moving somewhere else.
 

Nittering Nabob

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It’s very far fetched. It’s one thing to take a new job, hire a bunch of guys from your former employer, and convince recruits and players to follow you. It’s another to be collecting a paycheck from a school while actively trying to get recruits to leave your school in anticipation of moving somewhere else.
Actually not far fetched.

One could argue that on October 12th, the day Franklin was fired, he was technically still on PSU’s payroll given the terms of his contract and that he immediately began recruiting PSU staff and certain high schoolers on that same day.
 
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Erial_Lion

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Actually not far fetched.

One could argue that on October 12th, the day Franklin was fired, he was technically still on PSU’s payroll given the terms of his contract and that he immediately began recruiting PSU staff and certain high schoolers on that same day.
One could argue…but he was terminated, so it would be an awful argument.

And it’s still very far fetched…