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Hardly a peep...guess we missed on a DE that went to GA. Can never have enough depth with portal impacts these days.
 

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Hardly a peep...guess we missed on a DE that went to GA. Can never have enough depth with portal impacts these days.
Contrary to many here, I thought OU had a good recruiting haul even with the setbacks of Daniels, Leigh and Wheaton.
What OU did not get by recruiting, it got via transfers and the players that transferred out should be replaced very well.
 

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If we can add Big Kat Bryant this would make things nearly complete. Gray is a very talented proven RB. He will complement Brooks well. Plus we added good depth on the OL. It appears we have inside track for a hotshot RB from CA in next class (Brown).
 

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Our ranking behind the likes of USC Oregon Miami and Michigan is a function of numbers. We have 5-7 less recruits. But we have added some great portal guys. So this is more of a mirage. Looking forward to some great competition in the position camps this spring. See who can surprise and grab a starter spot.
 
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Our ranking behind the likes of USC Oregon Miami and Michigan is a function of numbers. We have 5-7 less recruits. But we have added some great portal guys. So this is more of a mirage. Looking forward to some great competition in the position camps this spring. See who can surprise and grab a starter spot.
I like LR's approach of using two different recruiting platforms (i.e. high schools and transfer portal). Building for the future and addressing immediate needs with college level proven talent. The last few swings and misses in high school recruiting left somewhat a bitter taste, but the final class (including transfers) looks great and brings legitimate hope towards improving. Very happy with the roster after all the dust settles...Boomer Sooner!
 

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I like LR's approach of using two different recruiting platforms (i.e. high schools and transfer portal). Building for the future and addressing immediate needs with college level proven talent. The last few swings and misses in high school recruiting left somewhat a bitter taste, but the final class (including transfers) looks great and brings legitimate hope towards improving. Very happy with the roster after all the dust settles...Boomer Sooner!

In the Rivals quality ranking we are 4th overall. We trail obviously Bama, Ohio State, and Clemson. Plus some great portal guys that are not factored in. Time to zoom into the CFB Playoffs and beat some Bama butt.
 
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In the Rivals quality ranking we are 4th overall. We trail obviously Bama, Ohio State, and Clemson. Plus some great portal guys that are not factored in. Time to zoom into the CFB Playoffs and beat some Bama butt.
I like how you worked "zoom" in; very topical with the remote world we are living in 😁
 

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Future is bright, and Riley is doing it the right way too. Squeaky clean so far, which I dearly love about him.

Stoops was great, but morally, we were shaky his last couple years. Still trying to forget the Mixon stuff, the DBG transfer guy from MO (who never played a down) etc.
 

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Future is bright, and Riley is doing it the right way too. Squeaky clean so far, which I dearly love about him.

Stoops was great, but morally, we were shaky his last couple years. Still trying to forget the Mixon stuff, the DBG transfer guy from MO (who never played a down) etc.
its never been squeaky clean
 

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Future is bright, and Riley is doing it the right way too. Squeaky clean so far, which I dearly love about him.

Stoops was great, but morally, we were shaky his last couple years. Still trying to forget the Mixon stuff, the DBG transfer guy from MO (who never played a down) etc.


Can you expand Stoop's last coupla years? Just throw out some thoughts.
 

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I mean, not to beat a dead horse, or reopen old wounds, I just thought some of the decisions about players were pretty shaky. Like Mixon especially. I think the kid should have gotten another chance, absolutely, but just not at OU. That's just my opinion though. Strictly just my opinion.

In Stoops' last few years, there were just too many players that had ties to domestic abuse. I know more than half of them probably were just rumors or false allegations, but still, to me, it looked too much like a "win at all cost" approach. The culture was bad.

Again, if you guys think I'm way off base, no problem, I won't argue the point. But I think unfortunately Stoops tarnished his legacy in those last few years, at least in my eyes.

But Riley has righted the ship though. We're back on our way to respectability.
 

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I mean, not to beat a dead horse, or reopen old wounds, I just thought some of the decisions about players were pretty shaky. Like Mixon especially. I think the kid should have gotten another chance, absolutely, but just not at OU. That's just my opinion though. Strictly just my opinion.

In Stoops' last few years, there were just too many players that had ties to domestic abuse. I know more than half of them probably were just rumors or false allegations, but still, to me, it looked too much like a "win at all cost" approach. The culture was bad.

Again, if you guys think I'm way off base, no problem, I won't argue the point. But I think unfortunately Stoops tarnished his legacy in those last few years, at least in my eyes.

But Riley has righted the ship though. We're back on our way to respectability.
My opinion too....and Mixon's inexcuseable misdeed, for me, went above and beyond a "youthful transgression".
 

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I mean, not to beat a dead horse, or reopen old wounds, I just thought some of the decisions about players were pretty shaky. Like Mixon especially. I think the kid should have gotten another chance, absolutely, but just not at OU. That's just my opinion though. Strictly just my opinion.

In Stoops' last few years, there were just too many players that had ties to domestic abuse. I know more than half of them probably were just rumors or false allegations, but still, to me, it looked too much like a "win at all cost" approach. The culture was bad.

Again, if you guys think I'm way off base, no problem, I won't argue the point. But I think unfortunately Stoops tarnished his legacy in those last few years, at least in my eyes.

But Riley has righted the ship though. We're back on our way to respectability.
What other players besides Mixon are you referring? The only other one I remember is Rodney Anderson and I think that was he said/she said scenario with no evidence to back her claim.
 

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Aside of the 1989 gang rape in the athletic dorm, misdeeds by 2009 recruit Justin Chaisson, Joe Mixon in 2014 and Coach Stoops' feeling the need to have a rape victim, Brenda Tracy in 2016, speak to his players about violence towards women, I can't recall any other misdeeds or issues of OU players.
 

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Read the thread... Mixon, DGB, Dvoracek, Broyles, Baker, and numerous others for different reasons. And I'm not arguing, I'm with you. I like second chances, but you're sillyy if you're trying to forget Bob lived just as much by second chances as by no excuses. I personally think he did his best and the best for these kids, but you're blind if you don't understand why someone disagrees. Not many coaches would have done, or did, what he did. And almost every second chance didn't benefit Bob hugely. I like to think he actually held his morals in higher regard than his position or success. . Broyles was probably his best success arguably followed by Dvoracek or vice versa. Both
 

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Aside of the 1989 gang rape in the athletic dorm, misdeeds by 2009 recruit Justin Chaisson, Joe Mixon in 2014 and Coach Stoops' feeling the need to have a rape victim, Brenda Tracy in 2016, speak to his players about violence towards women, I can't recall any other misdeeds or issues of OU players.
I'd say it's not worth being angry. I really believe Bob made 2nd chance called right or wrong, but I never saw sleazy and intentional
 

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What other players besides Mixon are you referring? The only other one I remember is Rodney Anderson and I think that was he said/she said scenario with no evidence to back her claim.

Like JconXtsy stated, DGB and Frank Broyles were two others player, late in Stoop's tenure, that had ties to domestic abuse.

Just one type of report surfacing, every once in a while, involving a player and domestic abuse is bad enough. There was too much of this being reported on towards the end of Stoops' career to allow me to conclude that the culture of our program was where it should be. We were never Baylor, thank goodness, but I don't think guys were getting the right message about how to behave.

Again, all of this just my opinion, just my perception, of events, and I'll add that's it's easy to talk about how things "should have been" five years after they happened.
 

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Like JconXtsy stated, DGB and Frank Broyles were two others player, late in Stoop's tenure, that had ties to domestic abuse.
Ryan Broyles, and, no

What other players besides Mixon are you referring? The only other one I remember is Rodney Anderson and I think that was he said/she said scenario with no evidence to back her claim.
Kennedy Brooks, Frank Shannon, LJ Moore

Like all football programs OU had it's share of Title IX issues (which are often BS)

There was too much of this being reported on towards the end of Stoops' career to allow me to conclude that the culture of our program was where it should be.
If that is the case, I'd suggest that following major college or profesional sports isn't for you

There were a lot of bad guys that played at OU in the 90s and early 00s too - when things got swept under the rug more often
 
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An 18 year-old kid stealing some gas?

Hardly worth mention

No intention of throwing stones or calling people out. Unless you have bad memory, it was actually a big concern at the time - big news. That's all I meant. I was actually supporting the ones that did worse. I applaud Bob in giving second chances. Nobody bats 1.000, but he sure has hit some homeruns on second chances, so anyone hating for that reason should be ashamed.
 

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Ryan Broyles, and, no


Kennedy Brooks, Frank Shannon, LJ Moore

Like all football programs OU had it's share of Title IX issues (which are often BS)


If that is the case, I'd suggest that following major college or profesional sports isn't for you

There were a lot of bad guys that played at OU in the 90s and early 00s too - when things got swept under the rug more often

Sorry, meant to say Frank Shannon, not Frank Broyles.

I respect your view, and I won't otherwise belabor the point.