Ok so what do you think Watson gets???
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What was the circumstances of him sitting out last year? His choice? The team's?
That's the only circumstance I could see bringing it lower than a solid 10 ish games. I just don't know if they would do a year with the criminal charges dropped. Something significant, but not a year.
That's the only circumstance I could see bringing it lower than a solid 10 ish games. I just don't know if they would do a year with the criminal charges dropped. Something significant, but not a year.
He's probably getting a "happy ending" as we speak.
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1 year + monetary fine and limited to male masseuses only
Six games. No criminal charges - which is a big thing because it was a grand jury that wouldn’t do it (and grand juries get all of the evidence, even stuff that may not be admissible in court). And with almost all the cases settling, they’ll clear the rest out soon and it will go away.
But six games sends a strong message without overreacting to allegations that aren’t criminal.
But six games sends a strong message without overreacting to allegations that aren’t criminal.
Dude… really??? He chose not to play last year. Word is it will be AT THE LEAST a year, and indefinitely… 4 cases still out there….. and the NFL has got to be wondering how many cases are still out there
There isn’t going to be criminal charges. Just because the DA didn’t want to take up a case that’s prob hard to prove don’t make him innocent. And with all the back and forth she and ole rusty had, who knows what kind of okie doke they pulled. Did she really want to go up against a multi millionaire and a team of lawyers with pretty much he said she said? Nope, she wanted none of that, still don’t make him innocent. He will be suspended more than a season…. Bank it
No, two grand juries refused to indict. And that's way bigger than a DA not wanting to take on a case.
With grand juries, the prosecutors get to show them all the available evidence under the sun (even if it would not be admissible in court). They usually have direct testimony from some of the accusers as well. Then, you only need a majority of the jurors (not unanimous) that believe that there is "probable cause" (not beyond a reasonable doubt) that a crime occurred.
I'm not saying he's innocent, but if you can't meet that standard of proof, then what can be proven? He's been out a year already based on accusations alone. The fact that a court (civil or criminal) will never hear this case, then what is the NFL going to go off of?
I thought the grand jury made the decision? Not the DA? That's what I remember from my law and order days.
Anyway, you're right that it doesn't make him innocent, but it's a lot better than criminally charged.
I hope he's not suspended at all. Can't stand this stuff when a guy isn't charged with anything but leagues decide to punish them anyway.
Freedom is no longer in vogue. Innocent until proven guilty is for me but not for you.
Don’t tread on me but if I disagree with you it is OK for anyone to tread on you !
If we, as a Nation, make through the next 2 1/2 years without lead flying I will be amazed…and thankful !
Paying off 20 accusers is pretty incriminating and a strong sign of guilt. I can see paying off one accuser to get rid of a crazy/false mess but 20 gives it a different feel than "I'm innocent but I'm going to pay anyway.
I have known folks who use that strategy to simply ”make it go away” However, in this case, it appears He is a few short.
It could very well just be to keep more sordid details from coming out. Even if he didn't do anything illegal, he obviously did some nasty stuff. I'd guess he just wants to keep the details quiet.
I think he gets “writer’s cramp”after stroking checks to 20+ accusers.
It's reported that Watson and the NFLPA will sue the NFL in federal court if he is suspended for the season. And Watson would likely win. Two separate grand juries have looked at ALL the evidence (the vast majority of which the NFL has no idea about) and declined to bring charges. The NFL would have a tough task to show why they know more than 2 separate grand juries.
Also, is it true that the NFL sat him out last year? If true, I would think a full year of sitting out counts for something.
Yeah, that's true. I mean, is Watson a perv? Obviously. It just drives me crazy when these leagues say "Well, you were found not guilty or charges were dropped or no charges were brought, but we're going to suspend you anyway." With all the accusations made against him, if two separate grand juries looked at the totality of the evidence and said "nah" then on what grounds can the NFL possibly suspend him?
Watson and the players association have a huge stool to stand on when it comes to this situation. They have 2 major examples of where owners were accused of very similar cases and were not punished at all. I see no suspension for Watson in this case. I also don’t see the nfl trying to overrule a new independent judge during a brand new players owner agreement. This is the first time this process has been done by her. It will appear to be in bad faith if goodell does that.
Let’s also not forget that according to the reports the NFL brought no evidence of wrong doing to the table. If the judge decides a suspension is not needed, the nfl can not appeal.
Let’s also not forget that according to the reports the NFL brought no evidence of wrong doing to the table. If the judge decides a suspension is not needed, the nfl can not appeal.
I may not have followed the case that closely, but did Watsons case raise to the level of rape? (Accusation of rape?)
Yep....as the old saying goes with a grand jury you can indict a ham sandwich.
I'm not saying I'm a genius, but if the shoe fits....
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...6-games-violating-nfl-personal-conduct-policy
Yaaaay you did it man. You are awesome, gold star day for you. Wow, you sure did tell us so didn’t you. Man you are the best
He should have been sentenced to back-up Fabio with the Jaguars without pay LOL.
And the ruling was rendered by an independent female judge.
I don't really know what the message is. If you're not found to be guilty of any wrongdoing, you'll still be punished?