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And it's probably not who you think. It's OU and West Virginia. Win out and you're in. Texas needs help. They are not guaranteed to get into the Big 12 championship game even if they win out.

Texas doesn't play West Virginia this year. This will never happen, but in a sick and twisted way it would be funny if West Virginia wins out going into the OU game, and Venables and the team tanks the game against West Virginia to keep Texas out and set up a rematch with West Virginia in the Big 12 championship game. Could you imagine the outrage from the Texas fans?
 
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LVPack said:
And it's probably not who you think. It's OU and West Virginia. Win out and you're in. Texas needs help. They are not guaranteed to get into the Big 12 championship game even if they win out.

Texas doesn't play West Virginia this year. This will never happen, but in a sick and twisted way it would be funny if West Virginia wins out going into the OU game, and Venables and the team tanks the game against West Virginia to keep Texas out and set up a rematch with West Virginia in the Big 12 championship game. Could you imagine the outrage from the Texas fans?
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I doubt we'd tank a game that would eliminate us from playoff contention. As things are right now, OU won't get in unless they are undefeated.
 
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Plainosooner said:
I doubt we'd tank a game that would eliminate us from playoff contention.
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You're correct, and of course that would never happen. The fact that it would infuriate the Texas fans is what makes it so funny, and also the fact that they can't accurately say if they win out then they're automatically in.
 
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Our great expert, Colin Cowherd, says Texas will beat OU in the CCG......this is the same guy who ranted that Venables be fired after last year's Texas game.
 
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Our great expert, Colin Cowherd, says Texas will beat OU in the CCG......this is the same guy who ranted that Venables be fired after last year's Texas game.
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Herds a terd, along the lines of Bayless.
 
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Yeah, among all of those talking heads, I've found Joel Klatt at Fox Sports to be the most knowledgeable and reasonable. He gives out a lot of facts to back up his opinions.
 
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As I said earlier in the week, even blind squirrels occasionally find an acorn.
 
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I love it that the whorns will be staring at the collective Sooner a-hole the rest of the season
 
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CTOkie said:
Our great expert, Colin Cowherd, says Texas will beat OU in the CCG......this is the same guy who ranted that Venables be fired after last year's Texas game.
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He also says that it was OU who backed out of the UGA series. He’s pretty much allergic to facts.
 
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Plainosooner said:
I doubt we'd tank a game that would eliminate us from playoff contention. As things are right now, OU won't get in unless they are undefeated
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An undefeated OU may still not get in. Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, Florida St. if these 4 teams win out there is your playoff bracket.
 
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coeSooner81 said:
An undefeated OU may still not get in. Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, Florida St. if these 4 teams win out there is your playoff bracket.
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If Texas makes the CCG as a one loss team, and OU ends the season 13-0, we'll be ahead of FSU. Or more.

BTW, WVU is trailing Houston at the half.
 
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coeSooner81 said:
An undefeated OU may still not get in. Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, Florida St. if these 4 teams win out there is your playoff bracket.
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While that's theoretically possible, it is extremely unlikely, especially when you look at the remaining games for each of those teams. Note that in the nine previous playoffs, there have never been four undefeated teams, and only twice has there been three undefeated teams. There were also two playoffs that had no undefeated teams.

Number of undefeated teams in College Football Playoffs:

2014-15: 0
2015-16: 1
2016-17: 1
2017-18: 0
2018-19: 3
2019-20: 3
2020-21: 2
2021-22: 1
2022-23: 1
2023-24: ???
 
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LVPack said:
And it's probably not who you think. It's OU and West Virginia. Win out and you're in. Texas needs help. They are not guaranteed to get into the Big 12 championship game even if they win out.

Texas doesn't play West Virginia this year. This will never happen, but in a sick and twisted way it would be funny if West Virginia wins out going into the OU game, and Venables and the team tanks the game against West Virginia to keep Texas out and set up a rematch with West Virginia in the Big 12 championship game. Could you imagine the outrage from the Texas fans?
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Well we won't see that. The end the WVU Houston game had two 50-yard touchdowns in 12 seconds.

On fourth and ten at midfield with 20 some seconds left, WVU, was trailing by three, trying to get in position for a tying field goal. They threw a funky slant route to their third or fourth option who kept running and got to the end zone for a 39-35 lead with 12 seconds left.

It became crucial that the Eer's were called for unsportsmanlike. After the return, from their own 40, and eight seconds left, Houston did what Texas did Saturday. Out route to midfield with three seconds to play. The hail Mary bounced off two guys into the hands of a Cougar receiver.

Final Houston 41, WVU 39.
 
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Houston had some Magic in the last 12 seconds for the win

Glad we don’t play Houston this season
 
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I guess we have left, UCF, KU, OSU, WVU, BYU and TCU.

Kansas, Ok State and BYU are on the road.
 
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Houston had some Magic in the last 12 seconds for the win
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Lost in the shuffle was the 15-yard penalty for Garrett Greene taunting the Houston crowd after throwing the go-ahead TD pass, which then made West Virginia kick off from the 20-yard line. Without that, it is very doubtful that Houston could have gained enough yardage in 12 seconds to attempt the Hail Mary pass.

Garrett Greene giveth, and Garrett Greene taketh away.
 
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The bottom line is OU just needs to take care of business the rest of the way and let the chips fall how they fall
 
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and with that OU SOS just got weaker.
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Remember, the Big XII is 2-1 against the SEC. OUr schedule included both winners. We haven't played the loser. We already beat Texas. We play BYU who won at Arkansas, last. That can't hurt. WVU isn't likely to be in the top four in the conference when all is said and done. They got smoked against Penn State, whose first big game is next week.

I do suspect that we''ll have to be undefeated to make the CFP. It's doable, but it will be a major challenge. If we are undefeated, we'll get in. If not, we won't, unless Bama wins the SEC. If they do, then OU and UT might both get it, if OUr loss is to UT. But that's a pretty big long shot. Of the big three in the Pac 12, two lost today. We can't anticipate that, but there will inevitably be some attrition over the next six weeks.
 
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I'm really impressed with OUr development and especially focus so far. I think Dillon is a vastly underated QB. I for one think we cruise through this season undefeated. I do not believe the transition to sec is gonna be as hard as some folks think.

BOOMER!
 
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Big 12 is crap…the conference brains have to worry about 2024. A year that maybe Utah is the only dominant type team. We should wipe the decks with those remaining before the championship game.
 
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iasooner2000 said:
u$c and the ducks are out thanks to yesterday
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I don't think any one loss team is out. There have been a lot of assuptions about who's good or not. I think Ohio State is very overrated, and my well lose before they play Michigan. Penn State is pretty good. And USC has no conference less, and they play Washington at home. So they're not out of anything, but if they beat the Huskies, I'd be shocked.

The Pac 12 did the same thing that the Big XII did. They got rid of the divisions, so the top two teams will play. Most people think that will be a rematch of yesterday. I think they play in Vegas, not sure. But if Oregon makes it, to the CCG with one loss against UDub, and then finishes the season with one loss, they are absolutely a candidate for the final four. USC plays the pair the first two weeks of November. USC has the interesting schedule that they play their 12, and have their open date Nov 25. I'd expect them to have three losses. But if they get there, and their only loss is to the Domers, they would absolutely be a final four candidate. Right now, the only P5 to be P4 one loss team with to me, NO CHANCE is Iowa. We'll see. When you play good defense, there's always a chance.
 
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You are correct in this assessment Plaino, I just got caught up in the zeal of the early losses yesterday. We of all schools should remember that lots of crazy things can & will happen in College football of course. Lots of football left.
 
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