OT: Louisville Getting Google Fiber

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Don't think people realize how big of a deal that it. My buddy lives in Kansas City and has it. He said they have a 2 tier system to choose from. 1st tier is you pay a $200 install fee and then get 6mbps inter St for the rest of your life for free. The 2nd I believe is 65.99 and it's for 1 megabit of Internet (1000mbps download / 1000mbps upload). That's nuts. Don't think people realize how huge this is for Louisville and eventually the rest of the state.
 
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Louisville is listed as a potential city, it'll be years before they have it.
 
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I've heard it'll likely take about two years. That's not tomorrow but it's pretty soon. And it's not a definite yet, but Google hasn't backed out of a city yet, so as long as we do what we should do, like we did with yesterday's vote, we should get it fairly quickly. And yes, it's a huge deal. It's huge for commerce, for attracting new businesses, for individuals. It's a huge deal.
 

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Disagree, Louisville has some big time businesses there, mainly UPS and in general their freight shipping and location to get Google fiber sooner rather than later.

Cool. But you're wrong. Google Fiber has been around for 5 years and they're servicing 4 cities so far and there are at least 5 cities ahead of Louisville.

 
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I've heard it'll likely take about two years. That's not tomorrow but it's pretty soon. And it's not a definite yet, but Google hasn't backed out of a city yet, so as long as we do what we should do, like we did with yesterday's vote, we should get it fairly quickly. And yes, it's a huge deal. It's huge for commerce, for attracting new businesses, for individuals. It's a huge deal.

Louisville is already growing at an exponential rate... It ranks 25-30 right now in the country... Getting Google Fiber could launch Louisville into a top 15ish city in the country.
 
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Fiber became available in the first city, Kansas City, in September of 2012. It's been around for about 3 and a half years, not five. Not surprising it expanded slowly at first and is now moving faster.
 

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There have been a couple Google employees (really likely contractors but they have Google employee IDs) in Louisville since November. They've been canvasing neighborhoods examining infrastructure and bandwith usage.
 

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Louisville is growing but isn't growing nearly as much as many other cities and certainly not growing "exponentially". It will never be a top 15ish city and it isn't in the top 25-30. If you look at MSA or DMA, it's 40-50. The only reason it's higher in some measures is because of the merger with the county. MSA is a better way to look at it.

If you want to see growth, see Charlotte, Nashville, Oklahoma City, Phoenix, or about any city in Texas.
 

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As a city official within Metro Louisville, I can tell you that this is gaining some serious ground and each respective "city" has the appropriate paperwork in front of it's council members and Mayor to push back to Metro Louisville. For the respective cities, it's a slam dunk. Additionally, this is a nice positive to market to tech companies either looking to move or sprouting up in Louisville. It would be a win for Louisville.
 

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Agree -- Soon to be top 5 Haters can hate.

1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. LA
4. Houston/Philly (tie)
5. Louisville


JMO
 

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I really don't understand why people out in the state hate Louisville the city so much. This is a great city right in the state of Kentucky that everyone can be proud of. The city promotes bourbon and horse racing which bring money into the rest of the state. I get the rivalry between UK and U of L, but that is in sports only. A state like Kentucky is blessed to have 2 great universities like that in our borders along with WKU, Murray State, and EKU. You guys need to look past the sports aspect and get on board. This city drives the engine of Kentucky's economy. Coal is dead, if Louisville doesn't grow and prosper this state will be too.
 

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As a city official within Metro Louisville, I can tell you that this is gaining some serious ground and each respective "city" has the appropriate paperwork in front of it's council members and Mayor to push back to Metro Louisville. For the respective cities, it's a slam dunk. Additionally, this is a nice positive to market to tech companies either looking to move or sprouting up in Louisville. It would be a win for Louisville.
What kind of city official are you?
 
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Know guys down in Austin who have it and yeah, it will be real attractive to potential businesses here. Hoping we have it within the next 18-24 months. Austin got it pretty quickly once it was announced.
 
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^THIS

Google fiber is in Provo and people are stating the reason that Louisville won't get it is because of MSA? Stay in your lanes boys, let the people that have been following this story for months now and are in the know inform us, everybody doesn't have to know everything. IMO, it will be here before the next Olympic year, 2020, just seems like time goes by much faster with each year that passes by, more things keeping our attention 24/7. Heck, the 2012 title won by us still seems like it was only 1-2 years ago, not 4-5.
 

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A city commissioner. Nothing fancy but definitely provides good insight into things going on within Metro Louisville.
City commissioner? I have heard of metro council members.....don't remember hearing about city commissioners? I see where Metro Louisville has some volunteer positions on some commissions.
 

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City commissioner? I have heard of metro council members.....don't remember hearing about city commissioners? I see where Metro Louisville has some volunteer positions on some commissions.

A commissioner is the technical title...I'm a council member. Not of Metro Louisville, of a city within it. But when you actually fill out the paper work, it's called a commissioner. So in my role, you work on projects and such in your specific city, which is part of a district. You filter up to your district and there are monthly meetings, etc. So the Google Fiber project is something that came in front of my city months ago and naturally, we signed off on it. And yes, we get paid. Not much, I certainly have a full time job, but you do get paid. Very interesting work and provides a lot of insight into just how much red tape there is in government.
 
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^THIS

Google fiber is in Provo and people are stating the reason that Louisville won't get it is because of MSA? Stay in your lanes boys, let the people that have been following this story for months now and are in the know inform us, everybody doesn't have to know everything.

Not one person said that Louisville won't get it or that it's because of its MSA size.
 
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They literally said this 2 years ago. Lol remember mayor gray talking about it? This was when Lexington was about to be "Austin TX". LOL. Back when we had big dreams for The Hole. Now the city is literally burning to the ground. Smh. WHY GOOGLE DID THIS TO US???
 

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Know guys down in Austin who have it and yeah, it will be real attractive to potential businesses here. Hoping we have it within the next 18-24 months. Austin got it pretty quickly once it was announced.
Negative, not entirely accurate. While it's true certain Austin neighborhoods have received Google Fiber service since the April 9, 2013 announcement nearly 3 years ago, many areas remain under construction. Additionally, a large number of residents, myself included, await signup announcements. The overall deployment is very slow.
 

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A commissioner is the technical title...I'm a council member. Not of Metro Louisville, of a city within it. But when you actually fill out the paper work, it's called a commissioner. So in my role, you work on projects and such in your specific city, which is part of a district. You filter up to your district and there are monthly meetings, etc. So the Google Fiber project is something that came in front of my city months ago and naturally, we signed off on it. And yes, we get paid. Not much, I certainly have a full time job, but you do get paid. Very interesting work and provides a lot of insight into just how much red tape there is in government.
There are 83 satellite cities in Jefferson County. Other than state road aid, almost every city relies on Metro for services from hazard mitigation to emergency...etc. some have independent police/fire, but Saint Matthews and Jeffersontown are biggest.

That being said, you have no real interaction with metro, so that's an odd claim. Most monthly meetings go over landscape projects, directories, road repair. Nothing close to saying your an official with metro. Most cities are no more than 100 homes that call themselves a city, running out the mayor's home.

Odd to think you would have inside knowledge of google fiber, other than you may know of them.

I think UKrob was an ex commissioner.
 

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A commissioner is the technical title...I'm a council member. Not of Metro Louisville, of a city within it. But when you actually fill out the paper work, it's called a commissioner. So in my role, you work on projects and such in your specific city, which is part of a district. You filter up to your district and there are monthly meetings, etc. So the Google Fiber project is something that came in front of my city months ago and naturally, we signed off on it. And yes, we get paid. Not much, I certainly have a full time job, but you do get paid. Very interesting work and provides a lot of insight into just how much red tape there is in government.
Thanks for the info. Never too old to learn something. I thought maybe there was more to our local gov. than I understood.
 

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Thanks for the info. Never too old to learn something. I thought maybe there was more to our local gov. than I understood.
Local government is extremely important, but most places it has more of influence and importance outside of Jeff County. St. Matthews, JTown, Shively, only few cities where commissioner is important within jeff county.
 

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Fiber became available in the first city, Kansas City, in September of 2012. It's been around for about 3 and a half years, not five. Not surprising it expanded slowly at first and is now moving faster.

Not really. Google announced KC as the first city in March 2011. So almost 5 years ago. Took a couple years to get launched, and that was only in a small part of the city.

Louisville is still just a 'potential' city, not even 100% confirmed yet. It's going to be a long while for them to get started, and then another long while to get fully deployed. As someone else posted, Austin is taking forever to get build out. Provo is different, they just bought an existing failed provider, so it was already built out.

They have to do Nashville, Charlotte Raleigh/Durham, parts of Atlanta, SLC and parts of LA first. I would be shocked if anyone in Louisville has GF in 2 years, and surprised if it's fully built out in 5.
 
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Not one person said that Louisville won't get it or that it's because of its MSA size.

"Louisville is growing but isn't growing nearly as much as many other cities and certainly not growing "exponentially". It will never be a top 15ish city and it isn't in the top 25-30. If you look at MSA or DMA, it's 40-50. The only reason it's higher in some measures is because of the merger with the county. MSA is a better way to look at it."

"If you want to see growth, see Charlotte, Nashville, Oklahoma City, Phoenix, or about any city in Texas."


Actually someone did, you, stating that because of Louisvilles MSA being 40-50 that we aren't growing fast enough to warrant consideration for the service and that would put them out of the running.

EDIT - Sorry the second quote screwed up on me, I know, learn quoting.
 

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There are 83 satellite cities in Jefferson County. Other than state road aid, almost every city relies on Metro for services from hazard mitigation to emergency...etc. some have independent police/fire, but Saint Matthews and Jeffersontown are biggest.

That being said, you have no real interaction with metro, so that's an odd claim. Most monthly meetings go over landscape projects, directories, road repair. Nothing close to saying your an official with metro. Most cities are no more than 100 homes that call themselves a city, running out the mayor's home.

Odd to think you would have inside knowledge of google fiber, other than you may know of them.

I think UKrob was an ex commissioner.

If I gave you the wrong impression about what my role is, my apologies. I didn't feel the need to clarify my exact responsibilities and for the sake of the conversation, all that's really important is that regardless of city size, what city I'm a commissioner in, etc, the Google Fiber project is by far the most visible project that the city has pushed down during my tenure, which is insignificant.

A person asked a question and given that I do have some insight into what goes on behind the scenes, I answered it. But regardless of whether Louisville is selected or not, I would ask anyone to have patience. As it's been illustrated in other cities, installation takes time.
 

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"Louisville is growing but isn't growing nearly as much as many other cities and certainly not growing "exponentially". It will never be a top 15ish city and it isn't in the top 25-30. If you look at MSA or DMA, it's 40-50. The only reason it's higher in some measures is because of the merger with the county. MSA is a better way to look at it."

"If you want to see growth, see Charlotte, Nashville, Oklahoma City, Phoenix, or about any city in Texas."


Actually someone did, you, stating that because of Louisvilles MSA being 40-50 that we aren't growing fast enough to warrant consideration for the service and that would put them out of the running.

EDIT - Sorry the second quote screwed up on me, I know, learn quoting.

Where exactly is the "aren't growing fast enough to warrant considering for the service and would put them out of the running" part of what I (or anyone) said?

Try comprehending what people say, not what you think they said.
 
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That being said, you have no real interaction with metro, so that's an odd claim. Most monthly meetings go over landscape projects, directories, road repair. Nothing close to saying your an official with metro. Most cities are no more than 100 homes that call themselves a city, running out the mayor's home.

Odd to think you would have inside knowledge of google fiber, other than you may know of them.

I think UKrob was an ex commissioner.

How would you know what kind of real interaction he has? To me that's more odd.