OT: More irrelevant - SNL or Rolling Stone magazine

gamecockcat

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They were staples of my teenage/early college years. I haven't watched even a clip of SNL in 15+ years and haven't looked at a RS magazine other than an occasional article that shows up on my entertainment news feed in longer than that.

For many years, SNL was 'must watch TV' for me - the original cast, adding Bill Murray, then Eddie Murphy/Joe Piscapo/Billy Crystal and then...never again. Hated then and still hate now Will Ferrell and, even when someone will tell me to go to YouTube and look at a recent sketch, I just don't find them funny at all. And the 'musical guests' are not at all to my taste about 99% of the time so there is no reason for me to stay up to watch.

Rolling Stone magazine became a lot more political in the 80s (at least from what I remember) and I just didn't have time to read a bunch of political commentary in a pop culture/music magazine. Plus, about that time, I sort of quit focusing on music as much and buying records so I just didn't care for most of the content.

I'd have to say SNL but it's close.
 
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When people always combat these things about SNL with "well most people find the era of the funniest SNL sketches typically lining up with their teenage years...you're just old."

Well, I'd say there's definitely a degree of truth to that. But I also go back and watch the sketches from the 70s and 80s, and they were also funny as hell. I think any reasonable person would acknowledge the 70s and 90s as the funniest eras for SNL overall.

I watched periodically through the 00s. It was more hit or miss to me personally. I can't speak about this past decade because honestly I haven't watched but a handful of sketches that have been suggested by Youtube. I can say with confidence it's been a decade since I actually tuned in to a live broadcast and watched it all. More often I will watch the music performance than any sketch. But the sketches I have watched have been just mostly very meh.

Maybe I'm achieving old status, maybe they suck now. I just know it's not anything I care about tuning into anymore.


Rolling Stone's writing always sucked. Hated it then, hate it now. They spend too much time trying legitimize edgy and often musically indefensible opinions, and of course remaining wildly liberal. I could care less about that, I'm intelligent enough to filter their political ******** out. But as a musician, they often make cringeworthy bold proclamations about artists, groups, and bands that simply don't merit it. There's a litany of groups out there who have achieved success who myself or others don't like, and that's a personal taste issue and entirely subjective. Reasonable people can admit that and simultaneously acknowledge why a band in such a stratosphere is popular anyway. RS tends to try to prop up their street cred by touting bands that are niche, mediocre, or just bad often times....all for really no reason. They suck.
 

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SNL, even though they can suck for periods of time, there are some cast members that bring it. Bill Hader is one as reporter Herb Welch or Keith Morrison. Keenan Thompson br a ton to the table

I think my heyday for SNL was with Hartman, Hooks, Jackson,Carvey and Dennis Miller. Just great skits.

the worst NRFPRP cast, believe it or not, included Eddie Murphy imo
 

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I agree that the with the exception of some of Eddie Murphy's work, that period from 1980 to about 1987 or so was awful. 70's and late '80s to early 90's was the best. Last 10 years, I've watched the occasional skit but it's been years since it was any good.

Rolling Stone has always had a left wing bent but PJ O'Rourke was their best political/cultural writer in the 80's and 90's. He was a 60's radical who became a libertarian conservative and took great joy in knocking the sacred cows of the Left. R.S. has not had anyone writing from that perspective or that talented in over 20 years. It's just a Progressive echo chamber like nearly all other magazines, newspapers, and newsrooms so R.S. isn't any different, real journalism has been dead for quite awhile now.
 
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Rolling Stone is online so give that joke a rest.
With SNL, I think the cast sucks right now. McKinnon has talent and a few other of the regulars are nice role players, but they are missing the depth that the late 80’s/early 90’s SNL cast had.
 

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Snl hasn't been funny in decades. 90's and the original cast was funny. Will Ferrell and crew had a few funny sketches, but mostly eh.
 

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SNL to be judged in its time. The 70's stuff mostly incomprehensible unfunny to me, but I have don't have the context for most of it to make sense.

-Tales of Fraud and Malfeasance in Railroad Hiring Practices

-Get off the Shed

-Toonces / Lyle the Effeminate Heterosexual/ Massive Head Wound Harry / Nude Beach / Happy Fun Ball / Colon Blow / Tiny Elvis / Schmitt's Gay
 

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The amount of outlets that a young comedian can use to take the next step in their career is vast compared to 20 years ago, and has killed SNL. I expect the show to get even worse when Keenan is eventually given the show.
 
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SNL still has its moments, but they have trouble putting a complete show together like they used to back in the day. 75% of the show now is unwatchable. I do enjoy Weekend Update, though.

Perhaps the last truly great SNL sketch...



If that is the show that featured the 'David Pumpkins" sketch, then that might be the last great episode that they had. The Dave Chapelle episode from around the same time was also great.
 
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I feel like the peak of the RS has to be whenever Dr Hook released Cover of the Rolling Stone. Looked it up and that’s 1972.

I was a teenager in the 00’s and I didn’t find SNL as funny then. The 90s were best and 70s reruns great too. I like Will Ferrel’s movies but whenever he had a sketch that wasn’t George W I turned it off, I really think his W impression made his career. Once Obama took office the show fell off a cliff as they weren’t willing to make fun of him at all. Only the Digital Shorts by Andy Samberg were worth watching at that point, and after he left I stopped watching at all.
 

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I don't know anyone who sends that occasional must-see article from Rolling Stone, like you'd see a few times a year from great SNL skits. For as bad as SNL has been, both politically and from a talent perspective, there's been some funny **** in the last 10 years. They just need to come back to slightly-left, instead of full-blown left, and get that next great star.

Rolling Stone on the other hand.. Don't think it's been a factor in 15-20 years.
 

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Matt Talibbi has done good work with Rolling Stone.

SNL I might watch the highlight sketches on YouTube but it’s not appointment television or anything. Hasn’t been since the 70’s really when it was new and cutting edge.
 
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I miss SNL making fun of the President instead of just being mean spirited. Dana Carvey making fun of George HW Bush was purely for laughs. Same with Phil Hartman as Bill Clinton and Will Ferrell as W
 

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SNL still has its moments, but they have trouble putting a complete show together like they used to back in the day. 75% of the show now is unwatchable. I do enjoy Weekend Update, though.

Perhaps the last truly great SNL sketch...



Sheesh. That was funny?
 
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When people always combat these things about SNL with "well most people find the era of the funniest SNL sketches typically lining up with their teenage years...you're just old."

Well, I'd say there's definitely a degree of truth to that. But I also go back and watch the sketches from the 70s and 80s, and they were also funny as hell. I think any reasonable person would acknowledge the 70s and 90s as the funniest eras for SNL overall.

I watched periodically through the 00s. It was more hit or miss to me personally. I can't speak about this past decade because honestly I haven't watched but a handful of sketches that have been suggested by Youtube. I can say with confidence it's been a decade since I actually tuned in to a live broadcast and watched it all. More often I will watch the music performance than any sketch. But the sketches I have watched have been just mostly very meh.

Maybe I'm achieving old status, maybe they suck now. I just know it's not anything I care about tuning into anymore.


Rolling Stone's writing always sucked. Hated it then, hate it now. They spend too much time trying legitimize edgy and often musically indefensible opinions, and of course remaining wildly liberal. I could care less about that, I'm intelligent enough to filter their political ******** out. But as a musician, they often make cringeworthy bold proclamations about artists, groups, and bands that simply don't merit it. There's a litany of groups out there who have achieved success who myself or others don't like, and that's a personal taste issue and entirely subjective. Reasonable people can admit that and simultaneously acknowledge why a band in such a stratosphere is popular anyway. RS tends to try to prop up their street cred by touting bands that are niche, mediocre, or just bad often times....all for really no reason. They suck.


Dead on about RS.
 
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Comedy in general is at a tough crossroads at the moment. The current pc culture is so hypersensitive and mob like, any misstep is likely the end of a career.

So everything is vanilla. Which means it isn't funny.
 

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Comedy in general is at a tough crossroads at the moment. The current pc culture is so hypersensitive and mob like, any misstep is likely the end of a career.

So everything is vanilla. Which means it isn't funny.
PC used to be a joke, but not anymore. It's now the leftist religion, and as such, it can't be questioned.

The oppressive left destroys everything. Yet half the country doesn't seem to GAF and wants to give more power to these radicals. Thanks for that. Disgusting.
 
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SNL has become nearly unwatchable. I can only bear to watch the opening segment when they trot out some guest stars to parody the idiots in DC, and Weekend Update. The rest of the skits are stupid, and the “musical guests” lack any semblance of musical talent.
 
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SNL has been pretty good recently. Writing is better and skits have FINALLY stopped being aimed solely at the right. No, it's never going to be totally center, but now that there's a dem president that they kind of just.. avoid, it's much more tolerable.













 
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Grew up in the "glory days" of both.

Pure, unadulterated swill for the masses. Rolling Stone was NEVER hip or insightful, and SNL was NOT funnier, back in the day.

Absolute dreck, both of them.
 
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Rolling Stone has never had credibility with me, SNL at one point did.

When you look at their stance and reviews on Led Zeppelin, nuf said. What they were writing in no way matched what I and most of the world were hearing, and that goes across bands, not just Zeppelin.
 

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Rolling Stone has never had credibility with me, SNL at one point did.

When you look at their stance and reviews on Led Zeppelin, nuf said. What they were writing in no way matched what I and most of the world were hearing, and that goes across bands, not just Zeppelin.

I agree.

They gave some good stuff poor reviews and highly rated some absolute crap.