OT. Racial Tension at Kansas?

[stringmusiccat]

Mods can remove this if you wish since it is not directly related to college basketball but at some point it could possibly affect the basketball program at KU.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry..._hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics&section=politics

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I wouldn't click on huffnpuff if I was on fire and it could put it out. Surely there is something more than a blog reporting this.

 

[stringmusiccat]

I wouldn't click on huffnpuff if I was on fire and it could put it out. Surely there is something more than a blog reporting this.

Well here you go

http://www2.ljworld.com/

 

[Teachable Moe]

I wouldn't click on huffnpuff if I was on fire and it could put it out.

I remember the scene in Lawrence of Arabia where Lawrence lets a match burn down until it goes out in his fingers. His sergeant just watched and didn't click anything since the Internet was 80 years in the future. But maybe your contingency is so remote that I should just treat it as hyperbole and not worry about it.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

It was hyperbole and clearly intended to be.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

I think it's funny that these liberal "educators" are starting to incur the consequences of the leftist indoctrination they've been dishing out since the 60s. Chickens have come home to roost.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I think it's funny that these liberal "educators" are starting to incur the consequences of the leftist indoctrination they've been dishing out since the 60s. Chickens have come home to roost.

Yep. Some of their demands, demands mind you, are utterly ridiculous and are not controlled by KU and certainly not the student senate. These whners will get an unpleasant welcome to the real world.

 

[Jkwo_rivals113955]

I am super sympathetic to racial equality - I am a complete Democrat on that issue.

BUT there are few things scarier than the unflinchingly machiavellian approach that my generation (millennials) have taken to getting things done.

The twitter phenomena- low entry barrier, mob mentality, instant results and updates - has hooked them on this lowest common denominator variety of "protesting" which becomes increasingly chaotic and aggressive with each passing event.

Hearing both sides, giving people the benefit of the doubt, letting people defend themselves, due process, first amendment rights in general - these kids aren't interested in any of that. They see absolutely nothing wrong with gathering in mobs to get anybody who disagrees with them on anything fired - they don't organize to get a debate started any more (which would be a great thing to do).

Now, the debate is over before it has begun. Fulfill every demand on our list with zero discussion or we will start starving ourselves, make roadblocks with signs saying that you're a racist, make threats to your safety and well being, and try to get you fired by screaming over the internet at any business connection we can find.

They envision themselves as these Robin Hood types, going around and defending the innocent and the poor. But they're turning into that schoolyard bully who has realized just how much scarier he is than the other kids and suddenly falls in love with the power - notice how they're never happy with someone simply saying "They're sorry".

They need a firing, or tears and quivering, some kind of meat to hang over the fire pit. That kid in the school yard will put his knees on your chest and beat your head into the curb until you're crying for your mother, and then he'll say you've "learned your lesson". Like a wolf who wants to see submission from a lesser.

It's a GD nightmare.

If you're as tired of it as I am, please check out the non-partisan www.thefire.org - an amazing organization that fights for speech rights on campuses, and works at teaching young people about democracy instead of the horrifying 1984 mess that they're trying to instill currently.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

My apologies for pushing this in a political direction. I hope KU can keep this from affecting their athletic programs. I still think the stress of the Mizzou situation caused their coach to retire. He is still planning to work there in some capacity. Sports is a place where we should be able to avoid our political differences.

 

[UK till Death]

I am super sympathetic to racial equality - I am a complete Democrat on that issue.

BUT there are few things scarier than the unflinchingly machiavellian approach that my generation (millennials) have taken to getting things done.

The twitter phenomena- low entry barrier, mob mentality, instant results and updates - has hooked them on this lowest common denominator variety of "protesting" which becomes increasingly chaotic and aggressive with each passing event.

Hearing both sides, giving people the benefit of the doubt, letting people defend themselves, due process, first amendment rights in general - these kids aren't interested in any of that. They see absolutely nothing wrong with gathering in mobs to get anybody who disagrees with them on anything fired - they don't organize to get a debate started any more (which would be a great thing to do).

Now, the debate is over before it has begun. Fulfill every demand on our list with zero discussion or we will start starving ourselves, make roadblocks with signs saying that you're a racist, make threats to your safety and well being, and try to get you fired by screaming over the internet at any business connection we can find.

They envision themselves as these Robin Hood types, going around and defending the innocent and the poor. But they're turning into that schoolyard bully who has realized just how much scarier he is than the other kids and suddenly falls in love with the power - notice how they're never happy with someone simply saying "They're sorry".

They need a firing, or tears and quivering, some kind of meat to hang over the fire pit. That kid in the school yard will put his knees on your chest and beat your head into the curb until you're crying for your mother, and then he'll say you've "learned your lesson". Like a wolf who wants to see submission from a lesser.

It's a GD nightmare.

If you're as tired of it as I am, please check out the non-partisan www.thefire.org - an amazing organization that fights for speech rights on campuses, and works at teaching young people about democracy instead of the horrifying 1984 mess that they're trying to instill currently.

Even a halfway intelligent millenial such as yourself is still a big dummy...

You're a "democrat" on racial equality issues?

Republicans don't believe in racial equality?

Hopefully you'll wise up when you get a bigger taste of the real world.

 

[Ugoff]

Even a halfway intelligent millenial such as yourself is still a big dummy...

You're a "democrat" on racial equality issues?

Republicans don't believe in racial equality?

Hopefully you'll wise up when you get a bigger taste of the real world.

Was thinking the same. The progressives who took over the Dem party are about division. They create the aggrieved vs. the boogie man and mine the aggrieved for their votes. It's rich vs. poor, black vs white, woman vs man etc.

 

[Aike]

Was thinking the same. The progressives who took over the Dem party are about division. They create the aggrieved vs. the boogie man and mine the aggrieved for their votes. It's rich vs. poor, black vs white, woman vs man etc.

Meanwhile, while all the peons are fighting amongst themselves, the real bad guys are robbing everyone blind.

Interest groups are so proud of themselves for picking up nickels that they don't notice the dollars being plucked from their back pockets.

 

[Jkwo_rivals113955]

Even a halfway intelligent millenial such as yourself is still a big dummy...

You're a "democrat" on racial equality issues?

Republicans don't believe in racial equality?

Hopefully you'll wise up when you get a bigger taste of the real world.

Don't start with me, skipper. My halfway, ***-scratching-while-taking-a-piss-half-awake-at-4am intellect is your overdosed-on-adderall-and-locked-in-on-test-day.

I research and study on an Ivy League campus and I'm the only one in the whole GD joint who is willing to talk about these issues. Everyone else is either one of these totalitarian numbnuts or is afraid of them.

If you think you're some big bad freedom fighter sitting on your *** and typing away from a red state (lol if you think Louisville or Lexington have a lot of liberals), we're not even on the same plane of existence.

Anybody right of Bernie Sanders is considered a proxy for Satan in my area (the single bluest voting district in the United States) - so if I was worried about peoples' approval, I would've given in to their tyrannical bs long before you came along.

I am not a democrat and I am not a republican. You both do dumb stuff.

You want the short and sweet reality? Here it is:

The left does $%^& like this, because many of them are petulant children who use appeal to emotion to ride right the hell over whatever logic you attempt to counter with. The right does too, at times, but they haven't mastered the art quite like the left.

What are they fighting for? Well, they will never be happy until we see equality of results - because they subscribe to the tabula rasa model of human psychology and potential (faulty to begin with), they will never be happy until wealth, jobs, happiness, and a million other things are evenly distributed across race, gender, orientation lines. This, of course, doesn't make any GD sense to anyone who knows anything about the world or human nature.

First of all, their communist utopias will always give way to an ambitious ruling class, and second of all, there are certain biological divides along which you will never see a 50/50 distribution - the fact that many on the left are ignorant of this biology causes them to misdirect their rage.

So in Sweden, their fabled paradise, for example, after decades of gender integration initiatives, the Nursing and Construction Worker employment ratios (M/FM) are still 90/10 - in the directions you'd expect.
Does this cause them to imagine for a moment that natural preferences might be manifesting? Of course not. Everyone is a blank slate, remember? So it just makes them angrier and angrier at The White Man (TM), who, according to the hilariously simplistic Marxist adaptation of the Hegelian dialectic, has assumed the binary role of oppressor, and therefore is literally responsible for everything that goes wrong with every other demographic in existence.

Summary: If they don't see 50/50 in everything (or 33/33/33, etc), they presume oppression, because everyone has equal potential and affinity as a blank slate. This is, of course, a load of crap, so until the end of eternity, they will continue to try to find a boogieman to blame for even the slightest societal imbalance - they will be mad forever about something that can never be eliminated.




Now, the right has the much more realistic and sensible goal in mind - equality of opportunity. Recognizing that people have different aptitudes, potentials, affinities, etc, they're okay with not everyone getting a perfectly even share of the pie in some magical fairy land. Men are different than women, different cultures have different priorities, and there's nothing wrong with that.

So what's the problem? Well, simply put, we don't have equality of opportunity, and lots of people on the right like to gloss over that fact. It is way tougher to grow up a black kid in this country than a white kid. And I don't think it's some evil thing to acknowledge that. Doesn't mean that I have that (D) disease where I want to IMMEDIATELY REDIRECT INFINITE FUNDING TO ANYONE THAT WILL TAKE IT in some panicky attempt to solve the problem. But I do think it's a problem worth discussing, and I know tons of Rs who don't.


So getting back to your original points, if you agree with that sentiment above, then I'd say you are concerned with racial equality. If you're not, then you're wrong. But I really don't care whether you're right or wrong on that issue - that is incredibly trivial when juxtaposed with my original concern ITT.

The real issue is democracy and free speech. It shouldn't be a partisan issue, but sadly, many young lefties are starting to take sides against the first amendment.

Whatever you think about abortion, illegal immigrants, taxation, or whatever other hot button issue, pales in comparison to the notion that some day, if idiots like these manage to take over, you could be LEGALLY PENALIZED for holding the "wrong stance" on these topics. Look at the incredibly arbitrary enforcement of "speech codes" on Western campuses - look at the positively nebulous "hate speech" litigation that has already passed in many European countries -
expressing. the. wrong. opinion. can. get. you. in. trouble. with. the. law. over. there.

Forget EVERYTHING else. I don't care how offensive your opinion is to me - if you are scared for your safety, your job, or your incarceration status to merely EXPRESS it, that is a thread to democracy. Democracy is what makes all of this possible. We brought it here to escape despotism.

 

[Aike]

Don't start with me, skipper. My halfway, ***-scratching-while-taking-a-piss-half-awake-at-4am-intellect is your overdosed-on-adderall-and-locked-in-on-test-day.

I research and study on an Ivy League campus and I'm the only one in the whole GD joint who is willing to talk about these issues. Everyone else is either one of these totalitarian numbnuts or is afraid of them.

If you think you're some big bad freedom fighter sitting on your *** and typing away from a Red State (lol if you think Louisville or Lexington has a lot of liberals), we're not even on the same plane of existence.

Anybody right of Bernie Sanders is considered a proxy for Satan in my area (the single bluest voting district in the United States) - so if I was worried about peoples' approval, I would've given in to their tyrannical bs long before you came along.

I am not a democrat and I am not a republican. You both do dumb stuff.

You want the short and sweet reality? Here it is:

The left does $%^& like this, because many of them are petulant children who use appeal to emotion to ride right the hell over whatever logic you attempt to counter with. The right does too, at times, but they haven't mastered the art quite like the left.

What are they fighting for? Well, they will never be happy until we see equality of results - because they subscribe to the tabula rasa model of human psychology and potential (faulty to begin with), they will never be happy until wealth, jobs, happiness, and a million other things are evenly distributed across race, gender, orientation lines. This, of course, doesn't make any GD sense to anyone who knows anything about the world or human nature.

First of all, their communist utopias will always give way to an ambitious ruling class, and second of all, there are certain biological divides along which you will never see a 50/50 distribution - the fact that many on the left are ignorant of this biology causes them to misdirect their rage.

So in Sweden, their fabled paradise, for example, after decades of gender integration initiatives, the Nursing and Construction Worker employment ratios (M/FM) are still 90/10 - in the direction you'd expect.
Does this cause them to imagine for a moment that natural preferences might be manifesting? Of course not. Everyone is a blank slate, remember? So it just makes them angrier and angrier at The White Man (TM), who, according to the hilariously simplistic Marxist adaptation of the Hegelian dialectic, has assumed the binary role of oppressor, and therefore is literally responsible for everything that goes wrong with every other demographic in existence.

Summary: If they don't see 50/50 in everything (or 33/33/33, etc), they presume oppression, because everyone has equal potential and affinity as a blank slate. This is, of course, a load of crap, so until the end of eternity, they will continue to try to find a boogieman to blame for even the slightest societal imbalance - they will be mad forever about something that can never be eliminated.




Now, the right has the much more realistic and sensible goal in mind - equality of opportunity. Recognizing that people have different aptitudes, potentials, affinities, etc, they're okay with not everyone getting a perfectly even share of the pie in some magical fairy land. Men are different than women, different cultures have different priorities, and there's nothing wrong with that.

So what's the problem? Well, simply put, we don't have equality of opportunity, and lots of people on the right like to gloss over that fact. It is way tougher to grow up a black kid in this country than a white kid. And I don't think it's some evil thing to acknowledge that. Doesn't mean that I have that (D) disease where I want to IMMEDIATELY REDIRECT INFINITE FUNDING TO ANYONE THAT WILL TAKE IT in some panicky attempt to solve the problem. But I do think it's a problem worth discussing, and I know tons of Rs who don't.



But you're distracting from the important issue, here, by running away with one comment.

The real issue is democracy and free speech. It shouldn't be a partisan issue, but sadly, many young lefties are starting to take sides against the first amendment.

Whatever you think about abortion or illegal immigrants, or whatever other hot button issue pales in comparison to the notion that some day, if idiots like these manage to take over, you could be LEGALLY PENALIZED for holding the "wrong stance" on these issues. Look at the incredibly arbitrary enforcement of "speech codes" on Western campuses - look at the positively nebulous "hate speech" litigation that has already passed in many European countries -
expressing. the. wrong. opinion. can. get. you. in. trouble. with. the. law. over. there.

Forget EVERYTHING else. I don't care how offensive your opinion is to me - if you are scared for your safety, your job, or your incarceration status to merely EXPRESS it, that is a thread to democracy. Democracy is what makes all of this possible. We brought it here to escape despotism.

Good post. Of course the power brokers are well aware of the Hegelian dialectic and use it to maintain. So you are really only talking about the pawns in the game (which I think you get).

Other than that 2012 is still > 2015 :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:.

 

[Jkwo_rivals113955]

I think it's funny that these liberal "educators" are starting to incur the consequences of the leftist indoctrination they've been dishing out since the 60s. Chickens have come home to roost.

It's funny until they start to make our current congress look like a temple of calm and reason.

Can you imagine 20 years in the future if this movement isn't brought down a notch?

They will literally start trying to make laws about "checking your privilege", having special court sessions where white men aren't allowed to speak, enforce a nation-wide "speech code" that paints an incredibly broad picture of what is considered "hateful" and which can be enforced with complete abandon by SJW judges - hell in Sweden, they keep trying to pass laws that make it illegal to even express disagreement with feminism - not even banning words (they've banned plenty) I mean just simply disagreeing with any part of their platform.

You and I should be able to say whatever the hell we want to each other, short of a death threat, and not have the law interfere. These maniacs are going to try to change that as soon as they get the chance.

 

[Jkwo_rivals113955]

Good post. Of course the power brokers are well aware of the Hegelian dialectic and use it to maintain. So you are really only talking about the pawns in the game (which I think you get).

Other than that 2012 is still > 2015 :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:.

Oh yeah - there are always puppetmasters on both sides. If people would stop cosigning every insane statement that contains the right codeword - "because oppression!" "because freedom!",
then it wouldn't be so scary.

 

[Aike]

Oh yeah - there are always puppetmasters on both sides. If people would stop cosigning every insane statement that contains the right codeword - "because oppression!" "because freedom!",
then it wouldn't be so scary.

I look at it like a chess board where most are spectators. A few are pawns, or maybe a little more. Some get to be kings, but they are still shuffled across the board by the players. Then their are the game designers who rig the whole thing.

Some of the kings, like Bush 41, are player/coaches. Others, like Clinton, try to become players but are turned back. Just where did all that Obama money come from in '08 and what happened to Hillary's momentum?

Chaos is a big part of the plan. It's like a riot breaking out at a soccer game - only the spectators get hurt while anybody who matters escapes to the locker room.

 

[WitnessGreatness]

My one and only political opinion is Bernie Sanders better not win the presidency.

 

[ThwKentuckyKid]

So that stuff about Kansas...

 

[pikespeak1]

Don't start with me, skipper. My halfway, ***-scratching-while-taking-a-piss-half-awake-at-4am intellect is your overdosed-on-adderall-and-locked-in-on-test-day.

I research and study on an Ivy League campus and I'm the only one in the whole GD joint who is willing to talk about these issues. Everyone else is either one of these totalitarian numbnuts or is afraid of them.

If you think you're some big bad freedom fighter sitting on your *** and typing away from a red state (lol if you think Louisville or Lexington have a lot of liberals), we're not even on the same plane of existence.

Anybody right of Bernie Sanders is considered a proxy for Satan in my area (the single bluest voting district in the United States) - so if I was worried about peoples' approval, I would've given in to their tyrannical bs long before you came along.

I am not a democrat and I am not a republican. You both do dumb stuff.

You want the short and sweet reality? Here it is:

The left does $%^& like this, because many of them are petulant children who use appeal to emotion to ride right the hell over whatever logic you attempt to counter with. The right does too, at times, but they haven't mastered the art quite like the left.

What are they fighting for? Well, they will never be happy until we see equality of results - because they subscribe to the tabula rasa model of human psychology and potential (faulty to begin with), they will never be happy until wealth, jobs, happiness, and a million other things are evenly distributed across race, gender, orientation lines. This, of course, doesn't make any GD sense to anyone who knows anything about the world or human nature.

First of all, their communist utopias will always give way to an ambitious ruling class, and second of all, there are certain biological divides along which you will never see a 50/50 distribution - the fact that many on the left are ignorant of this biology causes them to misdirect their rage.

So in Sweden, their fabled paradise, for example, after decades of gender integration initiatives, the Nursing and Construction Worker employment ratios (M/FM) are still 90/10 - in the directions you'd expect.
Does this cause them to imagine for a moment that natural preferences might be manifesting? Of course not. Everyone is a blank slate, remember? So it just makes them angrier and angrier at The White Man (TM), who, according to the hilariously simplistic Marxist adaptation of the Hegelian dialectic, has assumed the binary role of oppressor, and therefore is literally responsible for everything that goes wrong with every other demographic in existence.

Summary: If they don't see 50/50 in everything (or 33/33/33, etc), they presume oppression, because everyone has equal potential and affinity as a blank slate. This is, of course, a load of crap, so until the end of eternity, they will continue to try to find a boogieman to blame for even the slightest societal imbalance - they will be mad forever about something that can never be eliminated.




Now, the right has the much more realistic and sensible goal in mind - equality of opportunity. Recognizing that people have different aptitudes, potentials, affinities, etc, they're okay with not everyone getting a perfectly even share of the pie in some magical fairy land. Men are different than women, different cultures have different priorities, and there's nothing wrong with that.

So what's the problem? Well, simply put, we don't have equality of opportunity, and lots of people on the right like to gloss over that fact. It is way tougher to grow up a black kid in this country than a white kid. And I don't think it's some evil thing to acknowledge that. Doesn't mean that I have that (D) disease where I want to IMMEDIATELY REDIRECT INFINITE FUNDING TO ANYONE THAT WILL TAKE IT in some panicky attempt to solve the problem. But I do think it's a problem worth discussing, and I know tons of Rs who don't.


So getting back to your original points, if you agree with that sentiment above, then I'd say you are concerned with racial equality. If you're not, then you're wrong. But I really don't care whether you're right or wrong on that issue - that is incredibly trivial when juxtaposed with my original concern ITT.

The real issue is democracy and free speech. It shouldn't be a partisan issue, but sadly, many young lefties are starting to take sides against the first amendment.

Whatever you think about abortion, illegal immigrants, taxation, or whatever other hot button issue, pales in comparison to the notion that some day, if idiots like these manage to take over, you could be LEGALLY PENALIZED for holding the "wrong stance" on these topics. Look at the incredibly arbitrary enforcement of "speech codes" on Western campuses - look at the positively nebulous "hate speech" litigation that has already passed in many European countries -
expressing. the. wrong. opinion. can. get. you. in. trouble. with. the. law. over. there.

Forget EVERYTHING else. I don't care how offensive your opinion is to me - if you are scared for your safety, your job, or your incarceration status to merely EXPRESS it, that is a thread to democracy. Democracy is what makes all of this possible. We brought it here to escape despotism.

The only problem is that democracy provides a means for mob rule. That's why America is not a democracy. Hopefully democracy can be extinguished before the communist left uses it to destroy the world.

 

[rickscot]

I think it's funny that these liberal "educators" are starting to incur the consequences of the leftist indoctrination they've been dishing out since the 60s. Chickens have come home to roost.

Conservative jerks are all over this board and other social media and never fail to attempt to show their all-knowing wisdom and superiority. They are blind to the fact that 70% of the country tolerate them and laugh at them.

 

[screwduke]

Isn't it amazing that conservatives are called racists but racism seems to always happen at left wing institutions?

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

It's funny until they start to make our current congress look like a temple of calm and reason.

Can you imagine 20 years in the future if this movement isn't brought down a notch?

They will literally start trying to make laws about "checking your privilege", having special court sessions where white men aren't allowed to speak, enforce a nation-wide "speech code" that paints an incredibly broad picture of what is considered "hateful" and which can be enforced with complete abandon by SJW judges - hell in Sweden, they keep trying to pass laws that make it illegal to even express disagreement with feminism - not even banning words (they've banned plenty) I mean just simply disagreeing with any part of their platform.

You and I should be able to say whatever the hell we want to each other, short of a death threat, and not have the law interfere. These maniacs are going to try to change that as soon as they get the chance.

You are far more informed about this stuff than I am. Who are the parties, specifically, that have brought us to this point? I like to think that most liberals see the logic you are expressing, but obviously there is a significant portion of millenials, as well as professors, who do not. Why is that?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Don't start with me, skipper. My halfway, ***-scratching-while-taking-a-piss-half-awake-at-4am intellect is your overdosed-on-adderall-and-locked-in-on-test-day.

I research and study on an Ivy League campus and I'm the only one in the whole GD joint who is willing to talk about these issues. Everyone else is either one of these totalitarian numbnuts or is afraid of them.

If you think you're some big bad freedom fighter sitting on your *** and typing away from a red state (lol if you think Louisville or Lexington have a lot of liberals), we're not even on the same plane of existence.

Anybody right of Bernie Sanders is considered a proxy for Satan in my area (the single bluest voting district in the United States) - so if I was worried about peoples' approval, I would've given in to their tyrannical bs long before you came along.

I am not a democrat and I am not a republican. You both do dumb stuff.

You want the short and sweet reality? Here it is:

The left does $%^& like this, because many of them are petulant children who use appeal to emotion to ride right the hell over whatever logic you attempt to counter with. The right does too, at times, but they haven't mastered the art quite like the left.

What are they fighting for? Well, they will never be happy until we see equality of results - because they subscribe to the tabula rasa model of human psychology and potential (faulty to begin with), they will never be happy until wealth, jobs, happiness, and a million other things are evenly distributed across race, gender, orientation lines. This, of course, doesn't make any GD sense to anyone who knows anything about the world or human nature.

First of all, their communist utopias will always give way to an ambitious ruling class, and second of all, there are certain biological divides along which you will never see a 50/50 distribution - the fact that many on the left are ignorant of this biology causes them to misdirect their rage.

So in Sweden, their fabled paradise, for example, after decades of gender integration initiatives, the Nursing and Construction Worker employment ratios (M/FM) are still 90/10 - in the directions you'd expect.
Does this cause them to imagine for a moment that natural preferences might be manifesting? Of course not. Everyone is a blank slate, remember? So it just makes them angrier and angrier at The White Man (TM), who, according to the hilariously simplistic Marxist adaptation of the Hegelian dialectic, has assumed the binary role of oppressor, and therefore is literally responsible for everything that goes wrong with every other demographic in existence.

Summary: If they don't see 50/50 in everything (or 33/33/33, etc), they presume oppression, because everyone has equal potential and affinity as a blank slate. This is, of course, a load of crap, so until the end of eternity, they will continue to try to find a boogieman to blame for even the slightest societal imbalance - they will be mad forever about something that can never be eliminated.




Now, the right has the much more realistic and sensible goal in mind - equality of opportunity. Recognizing that people have different aptitudes, potentials, affinities, etc, they're okay with not everyone getting a perfectly even share of the pie in some magical fairy land. Men are different than women, different cultures have different priorities, and there's nothing wrong with that.

So what's the problem? Well, simply put, we don't have equality of opportunity, and lots of people on the right like to gloss over that fact. It is way tougher to grow up a black kid in this country than a white kid. And I don't think it's some evil thing to acknowledge that. Doesn't mean that I have that (D) disease where I want to IMMEDIATELY REDIRECT INFINITE FUNDING TO ANYONE THAT WILL TAKE IT in some panicky attempt to solve the problem. But I do think it's a problem worth discussing, and I know tons of Rs who don't.


So getting back to your original points, if you agree with that sentiment above, then I'd say you are concerned with racial equality. If you're not, then you're wrong. But I really don't care whether you're right or wrong on that issue - that is incredibly trivial when juxtaposed with my original concern ITT.

The real issue is democracy and free speech. It shouldn't be a partisan issue, but sadly, many young lefties are starting to take sides against the first amendment.

Whatever you think about abortion, illegal immigrants, taxation, or whatever other hot button issue, pales in comparison to the notion that some day, if idiots like these manage to take over, you could be LEGALLY PENALIZED for holding the "wrong stance" on these topics. Look at the incredibly arbitrary enforcement of "speech codes" on Western campuses - look at the positively nebulous "hate speech" litigation that has already passed in many European countries -
expressing. the. wrong. opinion. can. get. you. in. trouble. with. the. law. over. there.

Forget EVERYTHING else. I don't care how offensive your opinion is to me - if you are scared for your safety, your job, or your incarceration status to merely EXPRESS it, that is a thread to democracy. Democracy is what makes all of this possible. We brought it here to escape despotism.

Well young man, well said. You are clearly intelligent and trapped in a far left hell. Godspeed in fighting your way out. I'd rather die fighting than allow my country to become a totalitarian socialist state like much of Europe. They don't even have a basketball team that's worth a damn. (Staying on forum topic)

 

[pikespeak1]

Conservative jerks are all over this board and other social media and never fail to attempt to show their all-knowing wisdom and superiority. They are blind to the fact that 70% of the country tolerate them and laugh at them.

This post proves you are clueless.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Conservative jerks are all over this board and other social media and never fail to attempt to show their all-knowing wisdom and superiority. They are blind to the fact that 70% of the country tolerate them and laugh at them.

If it wasn't for conservatives, you Libtards would starve to death.

 

[KingOfBBN]

If it wasn't for conservatives, you Libtards would starve to death.

Isn't that the truth? They'd never survive if they didn't have conservatives money/people to rip off and give to the lazy and stupid. If this country split so liberals could have their own utopia, they'd eat each other alive and once they ran out of money, they'd be begging to come over to the conservative side.


They need white conservatives to be the villain and figurehead for everything bad in their life and to be the reason for every failure. That's why Detroit and Baltimore look so terrible right now…it's been under white conservatives for so long.

This country is apparently so racist yet we should continue to pay and embrace everyone who comes here for a better life. Haha Which is it?

 

[jwheat]

All you conservative douches need to take your stone age views to the political thread

 

[qwesley]

We should all be united around the right to self-starve due to white privilege guilt

 

[KingOfBBN]

All you conservative douches need to take your stone age views to the political thread

Where do I atone for my white privilege? How many multicultural hail marys do I say to rid myself of this white guilt so I can make amends for the evil of the entire white race and exalt the brown people I have unknowingly held back today?

 

[jwheat]

I would say at least 15

 

[pikespeak1]

All you conservative douches need to take your stone age views to the political thread

All of you "progressives" need to go back to worshiping Obama for creating Islamic caliphate.

 

[warrior-cat]

Don't start with me, skipper. My halfway, ***-scratching-while-taking-a-piss-half-awake-at-4am intellect is your overdosed-on-adderall-and-locked-in-on-test-day.

I research and study on an Ivy League campus and I'm the only one in the whole GD joint who is willing to talk about these issues. Everyone else is either one of these totalitarian numbnuts or is afraid of them.

If you think you're some big bad freedom fighter sitting on your *** and typing away from a red state (lol if you think Louisville or Lexington have a lot of liberals), we're not even on the same plane of existence.

Anybody right of Bernie Sanders is considered a proxy for Satan in my area (the single bluest voting district in the United States) - so if I was worried about peoples' approval, I would've given in to their tyrannical bs long before you came along.

I am not a democrat and I am not a republican. You both do dumb stuff.

You want the short and sweet reality? Here it is:

The left does $%^& like this, because many of them are petulant children who use appeal to emotion to ride right the hell over whatever logic you attempt to counter with. The right does too, at times, but they haven't mastered the art quite like the left.

What are they fighting for? Well, they will never be happy until we see equality of results - because they subscribe to the tabula rasa model of human psychology and potential (faulty to begin with), they will never be happy until wealth, jobs, happiness, and a million other things are evenly distributed across race, gender, orientation lines. This, of course, doesn't make any GD sense to anyone who knows anything about the world or human nature.

First of all, their communist utopias will always give way to an ambitious ruling class, and second of all, there are certain biological divides along which you will never see a 50/50 distribution - the fact that many on the left are ignorant of this biology causes them to misdirect their rage.

So in Sweden, their fabled paradise, for example, after decades of gender integration initiatives, the Nursing and Construction Worker employment ratios (M/FM) are still 90/10 - in the directions you'd expect.
Does this cause them to imagine for a moment that natural preferences might be manifesting? Of course not. Everyone is a blank slate, remember? So it just makes them angrier and angrier at The White Man (TM), who, according to the hilariously simplistic Marxist adaptation of the Hegelian dialectic, has assumed the binary role of oppressor, and therefore is literally responsible for everything that goes wrong with every other demographic in existence.

Summary: If they don't see 50/50 in everything (or 33/33/33, etc), they presume oppression, because everyone has equal potential and affinity as a blank slate. This is, of course, a load of crap, so until the end of eternity, they will continue to try to find a boogieman to blame for even the slightest societal imbalance - they will be mad forever about something that can never be eliminated.




Now, the right has the much more realistic and sensible goal in mind - equality of opportunity. Recognizing that people have different aptitudes, potentials, affinities, etc, they're okay with not everyone getting a perfectly even share of the pie in some magical fairy land. Men are different than women, different cultures have different priorities, and there's nothing wrong with that.

So what's the problem? Well, simply put, we don't have equality of opportunity, and lots of people on the right like to gloss over that fact. It is way tougher to grow up a black kid in this country than a white kid. And I don't think it's some evil thing to acknowledge that. Doesn't mean that I have that (D) disease where I want to IMMEDIATELY REDIRECT INFINITE FUNDING TO ANYONE THAT WILL TAKE IT in some panicky attempt to solve the problem. But I do think it's a problem worth discussing, and I know tons of Rs who don't.


So getting back to your original points, if you agree with that sentiment above, then I'd say you are concerned with racial equality. If you're not, then you're wrong. But I really don't care whether you're right or wrong on that issue - that is incredibly trivial when juxtaposed with my original concern ITT.

The real issue is democracy and free speech. It shouldn't be a partisan issue, but sadly, many young lefties are starting to take sides against the first amendment.

Whatever you think about abortion, illegal immigrants, taxation, or whatever other hot button issue, pales in comparison to the notion that some day, if idiots like these manage to take over, you could be LEGALLY PENALIZED for holding the "wrong stance" on these topics. Look at the incredibly arbitrary enforcement of "speech codes" on Western campuses - look at the positively nebulous "hate speech" litigation that has already passed in many European countries -
expressing. the. wrong. opinion. can. get. you. in. trouble. with. the. law. over. there.

Forget EVERYTHING else. I don't care how offensive your opinion is to me - if you are scared for your safety, your job, or your incarceration status to merely EXPRESS it, that is a thread to democracy. Democracy is what makes all of this possible. We brought it here to escape despotism.

Too long winded to read.

 

[mdlUK.1]

I'm still waiting for my white privilege card to come in the mail. Damn post office. When I get it, watch out.[cheers]

 

[Teachable Moe]

 

[starchief]

Too long winded to read.

You know as much now as you would have had you read it. It was egghead drivel at its finest and it suckered in another couple of eggheads.

 

[Ahnan E. Muss]

eggheads [laughing] I haven't heard that term since the 1970s.

 

[MegaBlue05]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOO RED TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, all of you who think either side is "better" are terrible. They're both the same. One uses an emotion-based approach. The other is fear-based. One placates younger, poorer, gayer, brown-er people. The other placates older, richer, straighter, whiter people.

Both "teams" are telling its players what they want to hear, and then voting in Congress for whatever they want.

All liberal ideas aren't bad.
All conservative ideas aren't good.
All liberal ideas aren't good.
All conservative ideas aren't bad.

If you can't agree with the above four lines, you're part of the problem, Mr. Sheep.

 

[starchief]

eggheads [laughing] I haven't heard that term since the 1970s.

We hep-cats know all those groovy terms. Can you dig it?

 

[starchief]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOO RED TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, all of you who think either side is "better" are terrible. They're both the same. One uses an emotion-based approach. The other is fear-based. One placates younger, poorer, gayer, brown-er people. The other placates older, richer, straighter, whiter people.

Both "teams" are telling its players what they want to hear, and then voting in Congress for whatever they want.

All liberal ideas aren't bad.
All conservative ideas aren't good.
All liberal ideas aren't good.
All conservative ideas aren't bad.

If you can't agree with the above four lines, you're part of the problem, Mr. Sheep.

Agree. That is why I am an Independent.

I can't be a Republican because, even though I am a social conservative, I perceive the party to be controlled by the country club guys to feather the beds of the upper classes. They only tolerate the social conservatives for their votes.

I can't be a Democrat because they stand for just about everything I disagree with on social issues. They are more compassionate toward the needy but just screw things up with many of the intended helpful programs they come up with.

Republicans: If we provide help, we'll end up helping some unworthy people. Best to not help anyone.

Democrats: If we put restrictions on who we help, some worthy people might get left out Best to help anyone who asks.