OT. Scholarships no longer year to year..

AnarchoNeoLuddite_rivals

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The Tom Crean rule was passed, coaches can no longer "waive" players based on performance. Guaranteed rides now. Guess he and pitino are stuck with some dead weight stiffs...
 

Perrin75

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Never had a problem with scholarships being year to year. What I didn't like was the requirement to sit out a year if you transfer. If scholarship is year-to-year then the player should have the option of not renewing that scholarship and immediately take one somewhere else.

On a side note, I haven't read the details of the new agreement. If its not included, I would expect scholarship limits to increase pretty soon. There are more games being played, and I can see a need for increasing depth for teams to make up for this.
 

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Originally posted by AnarchoNeoLuddite:
The Tom Crean rule was passed, coaches can no longer "waive" players based on performance. Guaranteed rides now. Guess he and pitino are stuck with some dead weight stiffs...
"All the new legislation goes into effect Aug. 1"

I'm sure Crean will get rid of some players before August.
 

preacherfan

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Somebody correct me if I am wrong but this rule changes NOTHING! Okay, T Smith signs on at IU and is a bust. Crean needs to make room for a gifted 2 star and wants T Smith gone. He doesn't need to pull the scholarship. All he needs to do is tell the kid that he doesn't fit in at IU and IF he ever wants to play again, he should transfer to some school that can't compete, like UCLA.

Okay, all jokes aside, does this rule REALLY change anything?
 

BUZZY67

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The kid can say "no" and the school still has to honor the scholarship. That changes a lot.
 

preacherfan

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Originally posted by BUZZY67:
The kid can say "no" and the school still has to honor the scholarship. That changes a lot.
In theory, yeah, it does. But, aren't most kids going to simply transfer?
 

Rhavic

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Originally posted by preacherfan:
Originally posted by BUZZY67:
The kid can say "no" and the school still has to honor the scholarship. That changes a lot.
In theory, yeah, it does. But, aren't most kids going to simply transfer?
The coach can really just say "You'll be in last place on our depth chart, it would benefit you more to transfer". Realistically speaking, the kid will transfer.
 

tbone.ky

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Let's just say it sure does change the tact or manner for a coach that over recruited with handling how he approaches the last guy on the bench. Previously, Coach X, technically, was not bound to renew a scholarship. And might approach the last player on the bench this way:

"Listen we have 14 players on the roster now with the incoming class, but only 13 scholarships available. Would you consider becoming a walk on this year? If not, you might want to consider transferring where you could get on scholarship and more playing time."

Now, Coach X will have to be more tactful about how he approaches the guaranteed scholarship player in persuading him his services are no longer desired. Additionally, I would gather he would have to be more helpful with finding that guy a place to transfer also.
 

TY U 2 WCS 4 9

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With the new "scholarships money can be used for other things" rule and now this, how long before a "student athletes are not required to attend actual classes for eligibility.. Proactive 1996" rule? Are they caving on these issues because they are archaic and obsolete??? Or are they softening the news of the new so-called "Doing It The Right Way" rule change?
 

preacherfan

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Originally posted by TY U 2 WCS 4 9:
With the new "scholarships money can be used for other things" rule and now this, how long before a "student athletes are not required to attend actual classes for eligibility.. Proactive 1996" rule? Are they caving on these issues because they are archaic and obsolete??? Or are they softening the news of the new so-called "Doing It The Right Way" rule change?

UNC*** says that we already have that rule in place.
 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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It's most definitely a change. The scholly's now have to be honored even if the kid doesn't play though I don't believe he/she could quit the team.

I think the new legislation is ground breaking and much needed. But like so many things the devils is in the details. How will it all be implemented? I'm sure there will be problems, but it's a step and just had to be taken.
 
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Very good chance Pitino runs two of his players off before the August 4th deadline. Believe they only have 1 scholly left for next year and 0 for the 2016 class if nobody goes pro or quits. Don't be surprised if a couple of their bigs are told to run along because they have too many at the 5 spot that aren't very good.
 

specialkd24_rivals116121

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It does change things, but also not really.

There weren't too many big-time coaches out there "pulling" scholarships. They might suggest a player transfer, but it would have been a HUGE deal had a coach just yanked a scholarship from a player.

Most just suggest a player transfer or never play again, and that kid does just that instead of staying behind and not playing (kids want to play, not sit at the end of the bench).