OT: Terry Rozier arrested in gambling probe

*Fox2Monk*

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No wonder he didn’t play in the game. I figured he may get arrested since they had been investigating and nothing had been done. Either they get arrested quick or their lawyer puts out that they aren’t a suspect and he’s been quiet and it’s been a while now.

I know about a year ago they said initial investigations said he did nothing wrong, but I’m guessing the guys working a plea deal in the Porter case provided more information on him.

10 a.m. news conference to give information about the case and arrests.
 
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The_Catfather

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"The NBA takes gambling allegations very seriously, is committed to the integrity of the game and will continue to work with federal officials as well as the players' association to reduce any potential risk of coach or player manipulation."

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TheDude73

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Hopefully they investigate NCAA refs next.
Was literally about to say the same thing.

My hopes are this sting and investigation does implicate some of the refs we all have a good feeling are indeed gambling on games. If players and coaches are in it, you know damned well there are refs involved. No gambling ring works if they can't get at least a few of all parties involved, involved.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Damn man. WTF is wrong with these idiots. Multiple millions of dollars in earnings playing a kids game isn't enough? Fuq 'em. Lock 'em up. Greedy bastards.
It’s linked to 30 people and 4 mob families too. Makes you wonder how these players and coaches got involved in this. Rozier already made like 100M dollars. Makes no sense.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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"The NBA takes gambling allegations very seriously, is committed to the integrity of the game and will continue to work with federal officials as well as the players' association to reduce any potential risk of coach or player manipulation."

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"Get 3 free weeks of NBA League Pass with your first deposit, using promo codes "BILLUPS" and "ROZIER" on DraftKings."

 

chroix

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Why do I think it's possible that this could be what the Bengals have been doing for decades now?
 
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I wonder if Terry ends up in prison with TWill...

  • Terrence Williams: Former NBA player sentenced to 10 years in prison for defrauding the NBA Players' Health and Welfare Benefit Plan through a large-scale health care fraud scheme.
  • Robbie Valentine: Arrested and charged with felony strangulation after an altercation with his girlfriend, notes a YouTube video.
  • Shoni Schimmel: Charged with assault and strangulation of her ex-girlfriend in 2022. She pleaded not guilty and was released pending trial, according to ESPN.
  • Terrance Farley: Was incarcerated but described his time behind bars as beneficial for him and his team in a 2017 Facebook post.
 

The_Catfather

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This is pretty crazy.


- The rigged poker games occurred in the Hamptons, Miami, Las Vegas, and Manhattan.

- The poker scheme targeted victims who were lured to participate in rigged poker games by the chance to play alongside former professional athletes. These athletes included Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones.

- The FBI says that the defendants utilized altered shuffling machines to read the cards in the deck and then relayed that information to an off-site operator. The offsite operator — known as the "quarterback" — then sent that information to someone at the table.

- The FBI also says that the defendants utilized other cheating technologies, including poker chip trays that read cards through hidden cameras, special contact lenses and glasses that could read marked cards, and x-ray poker tables that could read cards face down.


- The FBI says that the defendants robbed a victim at gunpoint to acquire a rigged shuffling machine.

- The sports gambling investigation is called "Operation Nothing But Net," while the poker investigation is called "Operation Royal Flush."

- The FBI has been working on this investigation for four years, with victims losing at least $7 million.

- One specific victim lost at least $1.8 million.
 

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NBA players making 10s of millions of dollars making sure bets go the right way. College players making much less and at one time making no money are not making sure bets go the right way. Sure...

Referees making $100-$200 thousand a year not making sure bets are going the right way. uh huh...
 

*Fox2Monk*

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I think there are other shoes to drop in this case. Those 3 may look to give up bigger fish for a deal
I think they already know the big fish, the four major crime families were involved of New York. The old school ones too. Gambino, Luchesse, etc..

Hard to believe these were the only celebs involved in the games though. I mean Terry Rozier isn’t a big time player really to most Uber rich people. Maybe a LeBron Type, Kawhi, Giannis level player. I can’t imagine Billups was the only player or biggest one alone in this with Damon Jones. Most people don’t even know Damon Jones.
 
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This is pretty crazy.


- The rigged poker games occurred in the Hamptons, Miami, Las Vegas, and Manhattan.

- The poker scheme targeted victims who were lured to participate in rigged poker games by the chance to play alongside former professional athletes. These athletes included Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones.

- The FBI says that the defendants utilized altered shuffling machines to read the cards in the deck and then relayed that information to an off-site operator. The offsite operator — known as the "quarterback" — then sent that information to someone at the table.

- The FBI also says that the defendants utilized other cheating technologies, including poker chip trays that read cards through hidden cameras, special contact lenses and glasses that could read marked cards, and x-ray poker tables that could read cards face down.


- The FBI says that the defendants robbed a victim at gunpoint to acquire a rigged shuffling machine.

- The sports gambling investigation is called "Operation Nothing But Net," while the poker investigation is called "Operation Royal Flush."

- The FBI has been working on this investigation for four years, with victims losing at least $7 million.

- One specific victim lost at least $1.8 million.
Just bonkers. Will make a great screenplay one day.
 
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Interesting comments from former player and coach Tim Jankovich in https://amp.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article312615643.html

“Between playing and coaching, Tim Jankovich spent his entire adult life in basketball, and although he’s been out of the game for three years, he believes the gambling problem is exponentially bigger than we may believe.

‘I think there is a lot of corruption. There is more point shaving, if you want to call it that, going on than what has come out,’ he said. ‘Talking to some coaching friends, they know of some things that have happened that have not come out, and I think it’s very dangerous.’

A bobbled rebound. An errant pass. A turnover. Plays that routinely happen, but when put against the prop bets are suspicious.

The legalized sports industry also serves as a watchdog, flagging games when betting action seems unusually high and one-sided, like on the prop bets that ended the NBA career of the Toronto Raptors’ Jontay Porter.

How do you catch them all? How can you distinguish an innocent mistake in the context of a fast game from the player who blew it intentionally?

…’I don’t bet, but I will say I do get things across my phone where they are showing a play, or score, and I think, ‘This is pretty strange,’ Jankovich said. ‘Definitely see some things that make you at the very least, go, ‘Hmm ... that was an interesting play right there at that time of the game.’”
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We fans have certainly had our share of “hmm” moments when a ref has made a controversial call that impacted the outcome of a game, or the trajectory of a post-season, where a “little” call or no-call here and there was the difference between going to a Final Four or Championship Game and going home….
 
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I always just assumed stuff like this was happening in the WNBA as their players don't make any money and it would be easy to get a couple on board. But I guess somebody betting big money on that nonsense would draw some eyes.
 
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