I could see an OU Kansas national Championship. Just like 1988. Only this time it would be OU losing twice to KU. Just a thought. Some of you young folks wouldn't know any of this as some of you weren't even born yet. But man wouldn't that be redemption if that played out that way.
OU VS Kansas 1988
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Thank you Mike, for making me feel incredibly old.....since yes...I do remember watching that game as a kid. Lol
Hard to believe that game was almost 30 years ago......30 years!!!
Most disappointing loss I have ever experienced as an OU fan. Football or basketball.
Us young guys might not remember that game but we know how to read a bracket and realize it's impossible for OU and KU to play for a National Championship this season
Us young guys might not remember that game but we know how to read a bracket and realize it's impossible for OU and KU to play for a National Championship this season
Us young guys might not remember that game but we know how to read a bracket and realize it's impossible for OU and KU to play for a National Championship this season
Us young guys might not remember that game but we know how to read a bracket and realize it's impossible for OU and KU to play for a National Championship this season
I looked at it wrong, shoot me. And even so a final 4 match up. Guess what OU is in the final four and you do get to see that.
Yeah I googled the brackets and looked at it wrong but hey a final 4 against them would work also.
If we beat them in the national semifinals and then win the thing, I'll be feeling great. If we make it and win it and don't play Kansas, I'll still be feeling great.
What I'm pulling for right now, is a three XII team final four. I think there is a decent chance of that.
What I'm pulling for right now, is a three XII team final four. I think there is a decent chance of that.
Would be interesting, but as Plaino said it can't happen. I hope we get to play Duke next
All Plaino said OU and KU couldn't play in the championship game. Lol sorry my smart phone wasn't very smart.....it shut down while I was posting this. Lol
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I saw Hollis Price and the boys play in the Final 4 my freshman year at OU so it wouldn't be the first time in my life.
It would be for you to see OU VS KU in the Tourney. But hey at least you're posting something about basketball. Even if it was to take a jab at me
I was in grad school and had the pleasure of sharing a neighboring table and some shots with some of that team the summer thereafter at the Mont. I can't remember exactly which ones.. for sure it was Jabahri and Quannas. Aaron and Ebi definitely weren't there. I can't remember if Hollis was one of the ones there.
That was my all time favorite team at OU. I went to some great games at Lloyd Noble and have some great memories. Quannas and Hollis were a hell of a backcourt.
In 1988, I was at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas which is a short drive from Lawrence. During that time, I experienced two of the most painful OU losses ever--the Orange Bowl for the NC to Miami and the NCAA Final in Kansas City to the Jayhawks. I don't know which was worse because it's like comparing being kicked in the groin to being hit by a baseball bat. The hoops loss may have been worse because I surrounded by KU fans and it was a game I really expected to win. I thought we'd beaten a better team than KU in the semifinals in Arizona. Horrible memories.
I was in the Swiss 'Otel in Istanbul, Turkey when we played Kansas in the Finals and it was on TV. Turkey is a basketball country. I had a bad feeling about that game from the opening minutes. Manning played the game of his life. Age: 37
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In 1988 I was an OU grad ( and lifelong Sooner fan) who had gone to ku for a Masters degree and was newly married, living and working in Topeka. My husband (ku MBA) and I went to Kansas City for the final 4 weekend festivities although we didn't have tickets to the game. I was definitely in the minority since KC was full of ku fans! I was devastated watching what was essentially a home game for underdog ku! It was terrible living there after the ku upset! Four mos. later we moved to the Dallas area. Although I am surrounded by fans of several Texas colleges I love the "melting pot" of college fans. There are far more Sooner fans here than in Kansas. To this day, I still strongly dislike the Jayhawks and don't claim the 4+ years I lived in Kansas. Although I don't want so see us play Ku again in the Final 4, if it happens again, it will be on a neutral court and I pray the outcome will be different!
Wow good SS and ok83, to this day I never realized that Kansas was playing at home. I do know we beat them pretty badly in Lawrence that year.
If you are talking about your age when KU beat OU for the national championship in 1988, that would have made you the oldest student manager in OU football history.
LoL!
'Bama, I think he was student manager on the football team in the early 70s. I think your timeline is confused. You made me laugh regardless.
Well, if Plaino was 50 years old in 1988 that would make him 78 now, which means he would have been born in 1938. In 1972, he would have been 34 years old. That's kind of long in the tooth for a student football manager. LOL I think Plaino's post was in error, which happens to all of us. I'm pretty sure I am a bit older than Plaino and I'm not near 78 YET. He will clear it up. He was probably not talking about his age, but I couldn't see any other reason for the post. I'm glad you got a chuckle regardless.
Finishing up my second year at Fort Ord, CA, and was just sick to my stomach. My squad leader was a huge Louisville fan and rode me like a two-humped camel for weeks after that.
Would love for some payback, and if you believe in karma/trends, you'll enjoy this.
Two years ago, senior Tony Nelson of Minnesota was a two-time NCAA Heavyweight champion going for his third straight title. His opponent was sophomore Nick Gwiazdowski of North Carolina State, a kid who was an All-American two years prior at SUNY-Binghampton and was the #2 seed. Gwiazdowski wins, preventing Nelson from getting his third title.
Fast forward to this year at the NCAA championships last weekend, and Gwiz is now going for his third NCAA title. But his opponent is a sophomore, who was previously an All-American, and is now the #2 seed (Kyle Snyder of Ohio State). Nature repeats itself, and Kyle upends Gwiz in one of the best HWT matches I've ever seen.
If we beat Oregon, and KU beats Villanova, I can't help but believe that nature will repeat itself here as well.
Would love for some payback, and if you believe in karma/trends, you'll enjoy this.
Two years ago, senior Tony Nelson of Minnesota was a two-time NCAA Heavyweight champion going for his third straight title. His opponent was sophomore Nick Gwiazdowski of North Carolina State, a kid who was an All-American two years prior at SUNY-Binghampton and was the #2 seed. Gwiazdowski wins, preventing Nelson from getting his third title.
Fast forward to this year at the NCAA championships last weekend, and Gwiz is now going for his third NCAA title. But his opponent is a sophomore, who was previously an All-American, and is now the #2 seed (Kyle Snyder of Ohio State). Nature repeats itself, and Kyle upends Gwiz in one of the best HWT matches I've ever seen.
If we beat Oregon, and KU beats Villanova, I can't help but believe that nature will repeat itself here as well.
No. I was 49 or 50 when OU lost to Indiana in the national semi's.
Now there was a guy in my class who was a 20 something freshman in 1969. He'd been in Nam for a while as a marine. His name was Guntars. So naturally, his nickname was Gunny. He may have been the oldest ever.
For four years, he told me I didn't understand the chain of command. He was right. I didn't.
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OU won by 8 in both Lawrence & Norman that year, FWIW.
Love Billy & all he did for OU hoops in his time in Norman, but Brown pretty much bent him over that night in KC.
Wow...for some reason all this time I thought Roy Williams had been the coach at Kansas during that game. It took almost 30 years, and your post, to point out I've been wrong all this time. Lol
Kansas beat KState in the elite 8. The Wildcats' best player was Mitch Richmond who was a very good NBA player. Do you know who the KState coach was? He and his assistant are still in the tournament this year.
Kruger was the HC at his alma mater and Altman was his assistant. I didn't know this when I posted it, but Altman was the assistant who recruited Richmond. Learned that on the Soonersports dot com site tonight.
Brown had nothing to do with it.
It was Ed Hightower (one of the referees) . He hated Billy and Oklahoma. There were several calls against us that were questionable at best.
I agree that Hightower didn't do us any favors (Manning most definitely should've fouled out), but I couldn't disagree more with the bolded. KU got out & even though it wasn't their game, ran step for step with OU in the first half, which ended tied at 50, a very OU-ish development to say the least. Although KU was having good success against the press, the one thing it did accomplish was that it kept the game at OU's pace/comfort zone. KU's success against it psyched Tubbs (& I've heard him admit this) into calling it off for the large part of the 2nd half, which allowed KU to take the air out of the ball. That resulted in a 33-29 2nd half. Think that type of game favors a team that averaged 103 PPG? I certainly don't.
We'll never know for sure, but as for me, I'll go to my grave believing that there's no way KU would've won that night had the tempo of the 2nd half been the same as the first.
What I remember about that game is Ricky Grace playing out of control. I thought he hurt us as much as Manning.
I was there - not that gives me any credibility. Packer was the announcer at that game (iirc)
He stated at that the half that KU can run with OU but KU couldn't beat us.
KU and Brown had a great game plan. Run with us in the first half. Then slow it down in the second half.
There were 2 things that allowed KU to win:
1. KU had a white guy on their team that could not miss from the 3 point line in the first half. For the life of me I can not remember his name.
2. Ed Hightower
KU playing a virtual home game had nothing to do with them winning - imhodmir
He stated at that the half that KU can run with OU but KU couldn't beat us.
KU and Brown had a great game plan. Run with us in the first half. Then slow it down in the second half.
There were 2 things that allowed KU to win:
1. KU had a white guy on their team that could not miss from the 3 point line in the first half. For the life of me I can not remember his name.
2. Ed Hightower
KU playing a virtual home game had nothing to do with them winning - imhodmir