But nothing can be gleaned from the first year of a head coach, although it is hard for diehards to let an entire season be wasted. Our situation is more similar to Alabama in 2007, and USC when Carroll took over. Really strong programs with a failed recent history. Both Saban and Carroll had major struggles in year 1. And in Carroll's case he was a complete unknown, except that he had lost everywhere he had been. Now Reilly is no Carroll and will be gone by 2019 but it is very likely he will win 10-11 games in a season in the near future, considering weak schedule and the gravitating towards the mean in terms of losing close games. We DO NOT have better talent than any big 10 team we have played. Even Illinois was better at QB, RB, WR...but they had a bad day executing. This team is stripped of talent, similar to 2004, not so much to 2008. I don't think Reilly can recruit at a top 10 level but by 2019 we will be a much better team, and will win a lot of games. Not a return to glory by any means but enjoyable. We MIGHT have 3 players, make an NFL team at this point on the entire 2 deep. Collins, Gerry, and Westercamp. We likely have the worst group of RBs in the the conference. The worst group of Dbs and Lbs with the injuries. I kind of wish Bo would have had one more year with this group, without his multiple NFL starters to carry the load. He recruited terribly starting in 2012, and now it shows.
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It's pretty hard to take you seriously. We have as much or more talent than any team we have played. We lack some depth, but if you followed any of the teams we have played religiously like Nebraska you would say similar things. And for Riley winning 10 or 11 games, what are you smoking? The coaching isn't there any Riley won't make changes to his staff. The OSU situation showed us this.
Totally disagree we have superior players and talent than all our opponents with the exception of Miami's skill position players.
MR is a total bust, Langsdorff is not a good OC. This is worse than Callahan without the top 10 recruiting classes, but 40th ranking in recruiting.
No. Everything wrong this season is Pelini's fault, including:
- Mark Banker's abomination of a secondary.
- Riley's clock management.
- Langsdorf's play calling.
- Conagra leaving Omaha.
What facts or data are you using to declare Riley will lead us to 10-11 wins soon? Mike has coached a college team one and only one season to a 10 win season. That was in 2006. The Beavs finished 10-4 and beat Missouri by one point in the Sun Bowl. That is one helluv of a resume to throw around.
Bo was a colossal knucklehead that's for sure, but you do you like losing and not going to bowl games? We had a chance to go from blow-outs and 9-4 records to something better. Eichorst has led us to something worse
Well if we are being honest right now, if we have to have a lossing record this year, i think id rather have Callahan as our coach. At least he was an elite recruiter and would be loaded us up for the next coach.
For real though, Riley is in on a bunch of top kids, now the question is can he pull them in to ne Huskers like Callahan did. Im lost what Bill did differently recruiting wise then all our other coaches. Time will tell with Riley, he is in on top kids and the question is can he get them here. And no, record shouldn't stop him, Callahan had **** records and he STILL pulled top kids. I truly believe if Riley can pull the top kids in (Gebbia, Holmes, K Johnson Jr, Hightower and theres a bunch more) unlike Bill C. Riley will know what to do with them. We will be battling OSU, MSU and Mich for to top of the Big 10
For real though, Riley is in on a bunch of top kids, now the question is can he pull them in to ne Huskers like Callahan did. Im lost what Bill did differently recruiting wise then all our other coaches. Time will tell with Riley, he is in on top kids and the question is can he get them here. And no, record shouldn't stop him, Callahan had **** records and he STILL pulled top kids. I truly believe if Riley can pull the top kids in (Gebbia, Holmes, K Johnson Jr, Hightower and theres a bunch more) unlike Bill C. Riley will know what to do with them. We will be battling OSU, MSU and Mich for to top of the Big 10
I haven't been paying attention to recruiting. Is it true we are currently ranked in the 40's? From reading this board, I figured we easily had a top 20 class. I usually put more emphasis on average star ranking or the quality of offers each recruit receives. So wonder where we stand on average star ranking?
It's not changing anytime soon. Shawn has finely put the dragger through Husker football. This will take years to recover from. We will be more like Minnesota from the 70s forward for the future. Husker football is dead.
I disagree. You can see how they are with clock management, discipline, in-game adjustments, overall leadership. You can gauge how much the team improves from the first game to the last. You can gauge whether the players seem to be buying in or not.
No, guys like Saban and Carroll didn't dominate in year one, but they did show significant improvement from the year before, especially in conference play. They both beat ranked teams and were competitive in every single game against very tough schedules. Riley was served up a pillowy-soft schedule this year to ease the transition. Imagine if we had to play multiple Top 10 teams this year.
Carroll - finished 2001 with four straight wins and a winning record they did lose the bowl game - their defense was ranked #11 in scoring
Saban - finished with a winning record and that is after he suspended about half the team they are fielded a top 25ish defense that year
Our situation is different and not in a good way
I will agree that the first year doesn't always tell the tale. You have coaches that don't always knock it out of the park the first year and then end up being really good coaches. You also have coaches that win a lot the first year and are run out of town in 4 years.
On the other hand, Nebraska is not similar to most new head coaching jobs. Most the time the coaches are replaced, they are taking over a program that is far below expectations in the wins and losses department. Most coaches don't take over a team winning 72% of their games the previous 7 seasons.
No one has a crystal ball and can say if this staff will fail or win 10-11 games in the near future...I definitely would not take your word for it, especially if you don't know that your head coach's name is Riley, not Reilly. All anyone can do is celebrate the wins, piss and moan about the losses and see what happens.
That is quite the statement. I do not agree. Nor do any recruiting class rankings. So basically you're just saying we have less talent than every team that has defeated us?
Well i been following rivals since Callahan was here, as you guys seem from my other posts, i loved recruiting while Bill was here. Now Bo got hired and recruiting fell big time. Bo did manage some 4 stars but usually 5.8 guys that a lot of top schools where not offering. The FEW big name guys he pulled, he did so because they were Husker fans growing up or from Lincoln. So my point is, we are more talented then some of the teams we played, BYU, Illinios, S Alabama and maybe NW (they have been keeping up the past few years) and so has Minnesota. Miami on the other hand, they should have more 5 stars (we have NONE) and more 4 star guys then us, but there from Miami and Florida is loaded. So its not far fetched to say we are equal to the guys we played. If Riley can pull in a quarter of the guys hes in on, we will be back to where we need to be. We have to start pulling some 5 star guys and more top 100 guys if we want to be big time again, we have to. If not, we are staying at this level. Barely lossing and barely winning and getting smashed by OSUs of the world.