PAC not expanding at this time

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Well….Big 12 is officially AAC 2.0.

Will be in a crap conference with no chance of being in the playoffs. But let’s face it, teams like West Virginia University have to go undefeated for two years to get into the playoffs with a 4 team format
 
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Well appears BigTen and ACC wI’ll not be active at this time as well. Next expansion checkpoint will be when Texas and Oklahoma leave for SEC. It appears the Little8 Conference is in danger of being left behind because all commitments end in 2025. On the other hand the AAC programs are locked in past 2030. Looks like “timing” is the death nail for the Big12. It‘s a shame but responsibility clearly falls on Texas and Oklahoma. No one else.
 

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Well….Big 12 is officially AAC 2.0.

Will be in a crap conference with no chance of being in the playoffs. But let’s face it, teams like West Virginia University have to go undefeated for two years to get into the playoffs with a 4 team format

Dude you’re confused. The Big12 is dead man walking. Little8 programs are going to the AAC or staying put. AAC programs aren’t coming to Big12.
 

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Well appears BigTen and ACC wI’ll not be active at this time as well. Next expansion checkpoint will be when Texas and Oklahoma leave for SEC. It appears the Little8 Conference is in danger of being left behind because all commitments end in 2025. On the other hand the AAC programs are locked in past 2030. Looks like “timing” is the death nail for the Big12. It‘s a shame but responsibility clearly falls on Texas and Oklahoma. No one else.
So you lied when you said WVU was going to the ACC.

You know nothing...just admit it.
 

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No surprise.

Never will understand why it's so hard for some people to grasp on here that if any leftover Big12 schools added value they would already be gone. Including us.

People wanted to find unimportant facts so bad and claim stupid crap that didn't matter.

The only option is adding teams to the Big12. That's it. That's been it.
 

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No surprise.

Never will understand why it's so hard for some people to grasp on here that if any leftover Big12 schools added value they would already be gone. Including us.

People wanted to find unimportant facts so bad and claim stupid crap that didn't matter.

The only option is adding teams to the Big12. That's it. That's been it.
Value is in the eye of the beholder. The problem isn't the existing schools --which rate higher than most of the other P5-having "no value", its that networks want a school or schools that are going to pull in 70 million viewers to go along with those in the 20's and teens over a season.

But there are new media entities wanting sports and some of those have far deeper pockets.

We will have to see.
 

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Dude you’re confused. The Big12 is dead man walking. Little8 programs are going to the AAC or staying put. AAC programs aren’t coming to Big12.
Max Olson, just said on Sic'em 365 that in the NCAA bylaws that the Big12 is a autonomous(Power5) conference and that it would take a lot to get that out, especially when the alliance said they want the Big12 to survive. So it would be the AAC schools going to the Big12 if the Big12 decides to expand.
 

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So you lied when you said WVU was going to the ACC.

You know nothing...just admit it.


So me the post where I said WVU was going to the ACC. I heard at by the end of the of process WVU was gonna be fine. The t8ming of the process is anyone’s guess I’ve always said I’d love WVU in ACC. That’s old news. Now to humiliate you once again for all to see how bout you post my initial posts stating clearly that all things like alliances, mergers, expansion was on the table. Way before google/link boy started posting alliance links. Again you offer zero content but knock yourself out.
 

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Max Olson, just said on Sic'em 365 that in the NCAA bylaws that the Big12 is a autonomous(Power5) conference and that it would take a lot to get that out, especially when the alliance said they want the Big12 to survive. So it would be the AAC schools going to the Big12 if the Big12 decides to expand.

Slowpoke please ACCept the fact that AAC programs have to fork out tens of millions of dollars to leave that conference. On the other hand in 2025 the Little8 programs are free to join any conference of their choice.
 

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Ummm you really dumb dude. This entire thing has been about 2025. My guess is you think a long term growth investment is a 6 month CD.
Max wasn't talking about down the road, that's what I was saying. please try to follow along. I know it's hard for you.
 

Pitt4Life34

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Max wasn't talking about down the road, that's what I was saying. please try to follow along. I know it's hard for you.

Dude again this isn’t rocket science. Max ignored the contracts in place so typical talkin head that misinforms people like you. AAC programs aren’t going anywhere. We we go........keep up. The PAC12 just established that at this time that no P4 conference is expanding. That leaves a very clear vision of what’s left for these Little8 programs. There is roughly 4 years left until there is no obligation within the orphanage we call the Little8.
1. Little8 does nothing and either play things out with the two big brothers stay or ACCept a buyout and wake up 1/1/25.
2. At some point over next 4 years expansion circles back and some Little8 programs find a home.
3. By 2025 the remaining Little8 orphans look at non P4 options.
4. On 1/1/25 zero movement, Little8 adds non AAC midgets.

Leave anything out?
 

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Max Olson, just said on Sic'em 365 that in the NCAA bylaws that the Big12 is a autonomous(Power5) conference and that it would take a lot to get that out, especially when the alliance said they want the Big12 to survive. So it would be the AAC schools going to the Big12 if the Big12 decides to expand.
Interesting. Could this be because they know once Big 12 is gone that an SEC team moves into taking their spot in playoffs.
 

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Dude again this isn’t rocket science. Max ignored the contracts in place so typical talkin head that misinforms people like you. AAC programs aren’t going anywhere. We we go........keep up. The PAC12 just established that at this time that no P4 conference is expanding. That leaves a very clear vision of what’s left for these Little8 programs. There is roughly 4 years left until there is no obligation within the orphanage we call the Little8.
1. Little8 does nothing and either play things out with the two big brothers stay or ACCept a buyout and wake up 1/1/25.
2. At some point over next 4 years expansion circles back and some Little8 programs find a home.
3. By 2025 the remaining Little8 orphans look at non P4 options.
4. On 1/1/25 zero movement, Little8 adds non AAC midgets.

Leave anything out?
Yeah you did, those exit fees wouldn’t stop an AAC from joining the Big12. No matter what you believe or hear.

Anyway I think the Big12 should not expand.

Understood ?

And if you keep coming back to me, you’ll be joining some of your club members.
 

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Well appears BigTen and ACC wI’ll not be active at this time as well. Next expansion checkpoint will be when Texas and Oklahoma leave for SEC. It appears the Little8 Conference is in danger of being left behind because all commitments end in 2025. On the other hand the AAC programs are locked in past 2030. Looks like “timing” is the death nail for the Big12. It‘s a shame but responsibility clearly falls on Texas and Oklahoma. No one else.
Big picture? Yes. They are ******* ********.

But you know what? We had a damn decade to fudge our numbers to make our academic ranking improve and obviously we didn't do ****. If we get left out, that is 100% Gee. Our undoing in 2011 was common knowledge. Sheer stupidity to not address it.
 

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Yeah you did, those exit fees wouldn’t stop an AAC from joining the Big12. No matter what you believe or hear.

Anyway I think the Big12 should not expand.

Understood ?

And if you keep coming back to me, you’ll be joining some of your club members.

Ummm why would anyone believe you over the actual contracts that are in place? This place is hilarious. So if Little8 adds no one then the Bug12 goes out of business in 2025. You truly are a dummy.
 

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If you aren’t in the SEC or B1G you have been left behind.
Don’t get why you try to shove some other nonsense down our throats.
Pitt has been left behind as well
 

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Ummm why would anyone believe you over the actual contracts that are in place? This place is hilarious. So if Little8 adds no one then the Bug12 goes out of business in 2025. You truly are a dummy.
Because by 2025 we’ll be gone.

Anyway to you: You’re gone to your buddies. Done with your arrogance and ignorance. Thank goodness.
 
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Value is in the eye of the beholder. The problem isn't the existing schools --which rate higher than most of the other P5-having "no value", its that networks want a school or schools that are going to pull in 70 million viewers to go along with those in the 20's and teens over a season.

But there are new media entities wanting sports and some of those have far deeper pockets.

We will have to see.
The only opinion on value that matters is in the eye of the guy writing the check.
 

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Slowpoke please ACCept the fact that AAC programs have to fork out tens of millions of dollars to leave that conference. On the other hand in 2025 the Little8 programs are free to join any conference of their choice.
What is the buyout for an aac team to leave?
 

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27 month notice + $10 million buyout. This has been reported in multiple media outlets. But I have not read/heard what the buyout would be for leaving prior to the 27 month notice period.
Correcting greg is a pastime for many of us on here.
 

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It sure sounds like the only conference that will be announcing expansion invitations before 2025 will be the BIG12. Whichever teams get invited are sure to disappoint someone. So what? It appears to be the only real play on the table right now. WVU needs to use their remaining big paydays, and the exit penalty fees from TX and OK to improve their academic standing. This would be a great time to win a national championship, while we are at it.:p
 

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Well….Big 12 is officially AAC 2.0.

Will be in a crap conference with no chance of being in the playoffs. But let’s face it, teams like West Virginia University have to go undefeated for two years to get into the playoffs with a 4 team format
Let's be sure Texas and Oklahoma actually leave first. Four years is a lot of time for things to change. It seems obvious this early announcement was not part of the plan.
 

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If you aren’t in the SEC or B1G you have been left behind.
Don’t get why you try to shove some other nonsense down our throats.
Pitt has been left behind as well


Would you rather be in WVUs position right now or PITTs position right now. Honestly no trolling. Not saying there aren’t issues in future that pose a threat to ACC. Just saying.......would WVU jump at an ACC offer in less than one second?
 

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27 month notice + $10 million buyout. This has been reported in multiple media outlets. But I have not read/heard what the buyout would be for leaving prior to the 27 month notice period.


Thanks for research. Not sure what Allen was referencing but the main point stands. Might be easier and less expensive to transition over to AAC in 2025. If these programs end up together why, for example, make UCF or Memphis pay $10,000,000 to do it when WVU and KSU can come over in 2025 for nothing.