Past the sweet 16 2 times in 10 years .

[caneintally]

That is how horrible K has been in the tourney basically since winning the title in 2002 . That is dreadful . Just wanted to put in to perspective how funny this circle jerk of K is . He was the best coach in the mid 80's to late 90's . Now ? He is not . Sorry you can't be that horrible in the tourney . Yes i know he won a title in 2010 but he was surrounded that with choke after choke after choke .

This post was edited on 1/25 5:13 PM by caneintally

 

[BLUEHILLS]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Stop, you sound like a Louisville fan.

Dude just won his 1000th game.

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

I think it was 2001

Only reason he won the 2010 title was because they got the 1 seed that WV
should've gotten. We all know what happened after that. It was a joke of a
bracket too.

 

[caneintally]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by BLUEHILLS:
Stop, you sound like a Louisville fan.

Dude just won his 1000th game.

NO i am stating facts UL fans state asinine opinions . And you are right it was 2001 .

This post was edited on 1/25 4:39 PM by caneintally

 

[Neue Regel]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
I think it was 2001

Only reason he won the 2010 title was because they got the 1 seed that WV
should've gotten. We all know what happened after that. It was a joke of a
bracket too.

Yea we know what happened, WVU got their *** kicked by Duke.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

K's accomplishment is great, but if Rupp had coached 1308 games, he would have been at 1075 wins.

 

[marshalfan]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
I think it was 2001

Only reason he won the 2010 title was because they got the 1 seed that WV
should've gotten. We all know what happened after that. It was a joke of a
bracket too.

They beat the stuffing out the team that beat us, so I am pretty sure they earned it. You really show ignorance when talk down someone's coaching that has won 1000 games and four national championships.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by caneintally:
That is how horrible K has been in the tourney basically since winning the title in 2002 . That is dreadful . Just wanted to put in to perspective how funny this circle jerk of K is . He was the best coach in the mid 80's to late 90's . Now ? He is not . Sorry you can't be that horrible in the tourney . Yes i know he won a title in 2010 but he was surrounded that with choke after choke after choke .

I'm with you. Don't buy the hype like most of these other fools. Coach K is a media creation.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by Neue Regel:

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
I think it was 2001

Only reason he won the 2010 title was because they got the 1 seed that WV
should've gotten. We all know what happened after that. It was a joke of a
bracket too.

Yea we know what happened, WVU got their *** kicked by Duke.

Yeah, our fans are pretty funny with the 2010 logic. All UK had to do was beat WVU...a team we were clearly superior to and we did not. I think we would have beat your team and then Butler to win it all...but we didn't.

UK, KU, Syracuse were the 3 best teams most of that year and none made the Final Four. Duke took advantage of the path it was given.

 

[Tampa_cat54_rivals112262]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

They've been to the Sweet Sixteen NINE times since winning the title in 2001.

Are you on crack?

 

[marshalfan]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .


Yeah the media got together 25 years ago and decided coach K was going to win 1000 games and four national championships. Wonder why they picked coach K to promote.

 

[LineSkiCat]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by Tampa_cat54:
They've been to the Sweet Sixteen NINE times since winning the title in 2001.

Are you on crack?

He meants getting past the Sweet 16... which he is correct on. Duke has won a sweet 16 game only twice in the last ten years... their title game and like 2 years ago when they beat Ualbany in the opening round.

 

[Neue Regel]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by Neue Regel:
Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
I think it was 2001

Only reason he won the 2010 title was because they got the 1 seed that WV
should've gotten. We all know what happened after that. It was a joke of a
bracket too.
Yea we know what happened, WVU got their *** kicked by Duke.
Yeah, our fans are pretty funny with the 2010 logic. All UK had to do was beat WVU...a team we were clearly superior to and we did not. I think we would have beat your team and then Butler to win it all...but we didn't.

UK, KU, Syracuse were the 3 best teams most of that year and none made the Final Four. Duke took advantage of the path it was given.




I'm sure Arizona, UNC and Kansas fans feel similarly about 1998. But its not Kentuckys responsibility to make sure the best teams advance.

This post was edited on 1/25 5:11 PM by Neue Regel

 

[caneintally]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by Tampa_cat54:
They've been to the Sweet Sixteen NINE times since winning the title in 2001.

Are you on crack?

LOL no i meant they have gotten past the sweet 16 2 times . and i said 10 years which starts in 2005 not 2002 but the point is the same . This is pretty common knowledge at least on this board but i should of made that more clear . Here is there tourney results


2014 - lost first round Mercer

2013- lost elite 8 UL

2012- Lost to Lehigh in first round

2011 - lost to Zona in sweet 16

2010- won title

2009 - lost to Nova in sweet 16

2008 - Lost to WVU 2nd round

2007 - lost to VCU in first round

2006 - Lost to LSU in sweet 16

2005 - lost Michigan St in sweet 16

that is his ten year run . LOL Losing to VCU ,Leheigh AND mercer.

This post was edited on 1/25 5:13 PM by caneintally

 

[englishmajor]

Didn't they get a Villanova team as their 3 seed that had lost 6 out of their last 10 games going into the tourney in '10

Damn that region was a joke.

 

[englishmajor]

Oops wait that tanking Nova squad was their 2 seed

 

[Neue Regel]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Cane,Which coaches have more titles than him in your time frame out of curiosity?

also, how many NCAA tournaments did Duke miss vs the other elites in said time frame?

 

[englishmajor]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

7 loss team BAYLOR was their 3 seed

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by Neue Regel:

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
I think it was 2001

Only reason he won the 2010 title was because they got the 1 seed that WV
should've gotten. We all know what happened after that. It was a joke of a
bracket too.

Yea we know what happened, WVU got their *** kicked by Duke.

Yeah, our fans are pretty funny with the 2010 logic. All UK had to do was beat WVU...a team we were clearly superior to and we did not. I think we would have beat your team and then Butler to win it all...but we didn't.

UK, KU, Syracuse were the 3 best teams most of that year and none made the Final Four. Duke took advantage of the path it was given.

Wow, just wow.

Absolutely get eaten alive for stating nothing but the truth. If some of you guys will remember, the consensus was that West Virginia deserved and should've gotten the last #1 seed. Instead, they gave it to Duke (imagine that). That put WV in our bracket when it should've been Duke in our bracket, but we knew the committee wouldn't do that. We had a game where WV played over their head and hit shot after shot that they shouldn't have, while we couldn't buy a bucket. After that game, WV played flat as a pancake against a Duke team that only had to survive mediocre competition to make the Final Four. After beating a VERY flat WV team, they had to beat Butler to win it all (a pretty good Butler team), but still BUTLER, and barely did it with a shot rimming out by Butler to survive.

This is not taking away from Coach K and his 1000 wins. I don't care if he has 2000 wins. Just stating the fact that they had incredible luck, and very FAVORABLE bracketing to do it.

So as far as the funny 2010 logic and all that, I don't care how you view it. It's just what happened, like it or not. I didn't like it then, but don't care now.

Then again, some of the people on this board were probably 8 years old when the 2010 tournament was being played.






This post was edited on 1/25 8:29 PM by yabbadabbadoo

 

[Hoskins91_rivals]

He's one of the best coaches of all time and he is still one of the best active coaches. You don't have to like the guy, but don't try to diminish his accomplishments.

 

[caneintally]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by Neue Regel:
Cane,Which coaches have more titles than him in your time frame out of curiosity?

also, how many NCAA tournaments did Duke miss vs the other elites in said time frame?

did you not read what i said in the first post ?He was the best coach from the mid 80's to the late 90's maybe even to around 2002 but something obviously has happened and i don't like when the media , whether it be in sports or politics , spins a yarn that doesn't match up to the facts. He WAS one of the top 5 coaches of all time in college basketball . Now there are many coaches better then him . Bob Knight is WAS an elite coach as well from the 70's to the late 80's but he wasn't in the 90's and the same thing has happened to K . He is a shell of his former self and the facts show that. But yes if this was 1992 there would be no better college coach . Now Cal , Smart , Donovan and others coach circles around him.

 

[mjj_2K]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:

Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by Neue Regel:

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
I think it was 2001

Only reason he won the 2010 title was because they got the 1 seed that WV
should've gotten. We all know what happened after that. It was a joke of a
bracket too.

Yea we know what happened, WVU got their *** kicked by Duke.

Yeah, our fans are pretty funny with the 2010 logic. All UK had to do was beat WVU...a team we were clearly superior to and we did not. I think we would have beat your team and then Butler to win it all...but we didn't.

UK, KU, Syracuse were the 3 best teams most of that year and none made the Final Four. Duke took advantage of the path it was given.

Wow, just wow.

Absolutely get eaten alive for stating nothing but the truth. If some of you guys will remember, the consensus was that West Virginia deserved and should've gotten the last #1 seed. Instead, they gave it to Duke (imagine that). That put WV in our bracket when it should've been Duke in our bracket, but we knew the committee wouldn't do that. We had a game where WV played over their head and hit shot after shot that they shouldn't have, while we couldn't buy a bucket. After that game, WV played flat as a pancake against a Duke team that only had to survive mediocre competition to make the Final Four. After beating a VERY flat WV team, they had to beat Butler to win it all (a pretty good Butler team), but still BUTLER, and barely did it with a shot rimming out by Butler to survive.

This is not taking away from Coach K and his 1000 wins. I don't care if he has 2000 wins. Just stating the fact that they had incredible luck, and very FAVORABLE bracketing to do it.

So as far as the funny 2010 logic and all that, I don't care how you view it. It's just what happened, like it or not. I didn't like it then, but don't care now.

Then again, some of the people on this board were probably 8 years old when the 2010 tournament was being played.






This post was edited on 1/25 8:29 PM by yabbadabbadoo

The problem in 2010 wasn't that Duke was undeserving of a #1 seed. You could make an argument for them or for West Virginia. The problem was that they were easily the last #1 seed, and yet they were handed a region with a disintegrating, undeserving Villanova as a 2 seed, and a Purdue team that had just lost Robbie Hummel, and then been hammered by over 20 in the Big 10 Tourney, as a 4 seed.

Any person with half a brain would have sent Duke and West Virginia to the East Region (the natural region for both teams) as the 1 and 2 seeds (either way), and sent UK south, since the difference for UK between playing in Houston and playing in Syracuse was negligible- no advantage either way. Instead, the committee tried to pull out the "we sent UK to the closest available region" card, which reeked of BS then, and still reeks of it now.

 

[ukluvrintn]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

I didn't realize that. That's really pitiful when the NCAA committee always seem to have them in a bracket that they don't leave the state of North Carolina 90% of the time unless they get to the final 4. They get what we should get this year (Louisville & Cleveland) then on to Indy !!!!!!! Every year, no matter their record. Look at what we have had to do in2012 & this year to get that kinda road!

 

[EvilMD]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by mj2k10:


The problem in 2010 wasn't that Duke was undeserving of a #1 seed. You could make an argument for them or for West Virginia. The problem was that they were easily the last #1 seed, and yet they were handed a region with a disintegrating, undeserving Villanova as a 2 seed, and a Purdue team that had just lost Robbie Hummel, and then been hammered by over 20 in the Big 10 Tourney, as a 4 seed.

Any person with half a brain would have sent Duke and West Virginia to the East Region (the natural region for both teams) as the 1 and 2 seeds (either way), and sent UK south, since the difference for UK between playing in Houston and playing in Syracuse was negligible- no advantage either way. Instead, the committee tried to pull out the "we sent UK to the closest available region" card, which reeked of BS then, and still reeks of it now.

Thank you. The top two teams by consensus that year were KU and UK. How we got the "fifth one seed" as our two reeks to this day. Then they screwed us again the next year pitting us against Ohio State in the third round (IF we could beat our nemesis in the second). If you follow the S curve they were calling us the fourth best team in 2010 and the 16th best team in 2011.

In 2010, Duke got what should have been our path. In 2011, Florida, who we beat two out of three times that year, got what should have been our path. It was clear that Emmert and Co. wanted no part of seeing Kentucky and Calipari in the Final Four. It's also funny that the three in our region in 2010 was Emmert's Washington team.
This post was edited on 1/26 2:52 AM by TubbysTabbys

 

[EvilMD]

As for Coach K, he's the best coach in college basketball, career wise. He's far from the best right now. There were rumblings about him in the Duke fanbase after last year's loss to Mercer. Think about it....losing to Lehigh was bad enough. Then you lose to a Louisville team by 22 that you had beaten earlier that season. That was Louisville's only blowout win in its last four games. Then you follow that up with Mercer. Compare the run he made from 86-92 to what he's done recently and it's night and day. He's getting like Knight in his last few years at Indiana, when they were losing to Cleveland State and Richmond.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by Tampa_cat54:
They've been to the Sweet Sixteen NINE times since winning the title in 2001.

Are you on crack?

LOL no i meant they have gotten past the sweet 16 2 times . and i said 10 years which starts in 2005 not 2002 but the point is the same . This is pretty common knowledge at least on this board but i should of made that more clear . Here is there tourney results


2014 - lost first round Mercer

2013- lost elite 8 UL

2012- Lost to Lehigh in first round

2011 - lost to Zona in sweet 16

2010- won title

2009 - lost to Nova in sweet 16

2008 - Lost to WVU 2nd round

2007 - lost to VCU in first round

2006 - Lost to LSU in sweet 16

2005 - lost Michigan St in sweet 16

that is his ten year run . LOL Losing to VCU ,Leheigh AND mercer.

This post was edited on 1/25 5:13 PM by caneintally

One of the more under-reported facts about the Coach K legacy is his shocking underachievement relative to seed in the NCAA tourney. He rivals Dean smith in this regard. He regularly loses games that he is not supposed to lose. It's the NCAA tourney, so anything can happen, but Coach K regularly does LESS with MORE.

 

[ukalum_rivals311718]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by ukluvrintn:
I didn't realize that. That's really pitiful when the NCAA committee always seem to have them in a bracket that they don't leave the state of North Carolina 90% of the time unless they get to the final 4. They get what we should get this year (Louisville & Cleveland) then on to Indy !!!!!!! Every year, no matter their record. Look at what we have had to do in2012 & this year to get that kinda road!

I'll bet you can't guess the last time Duke played a sweet sixteen game in the state of North Carolina.

 

[.S&C.]

Que the K slobber knobbers not being able to handle the truth that coach K, since 2002, has been very vanilla and not very great with ALL THAT TALENT. if he had not lucked up completely in 2010 it would be bad for him by now. Here were actually people in their program who were contemplating if time had passed him by and he should move on. I know I know.

 

[Neue Regel]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by Wildcatsworld:
7 loss team BAYLOR was their 3 seed

Baylor was ranked in the top 10 in the coaches poll at EOY and had that entire Texas crowd cheering them on. You guys act like that was some high school game, Geez Duke trailed that game with 5 or 6 minutes to go and barely pulled it out thanks to huge 3 pointers from Scheyer and Smith and rebounding from the bigs.

They were a far, far tougher opponent than West Virginia was. I had my feet up on the couch during the West Virginia game eating potato chips. (lol)
This post was edited on 1/26 12:47 PM by Neue Regel

 

[Neue Regel]

Originally posted by .S&C.:
Que the K slobber knobbers not being able to handle the truth that coach K, since 2002, has been very vanilla and not very great with ALL THAT TALENT. if he had not lucked up completely in 2010 it would be bad for him by now. Here were actually people in their program who were contemplating if time had passed him by and he should move on. I know I know.

Yep, and that one "lucky one" equals both Bill Self and John Calipari's career National Championship total thus far....Who in your opinion has had the most talent the last 7-8 years? Maybe it's UCONN since they are winning more National Titles than anybody is right now.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Is K a great coach? Absolutely.

Is K as great as the media/ESPN would have one believe? Absolutely not.

 

[TTOWN CATS]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by STUCKNBIG10:

Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by Tampa_cat54:
They've been to the Sweet Sixteen NINE times since winning the title in 2001.

Are you on crack?

LOL no i meant they have gotten past the sweet 16 2 times . and i said 10 years which starts in 2005 not 2002 but the point is the same . This is pretty common knowledge at least on this board but i should of made that more clear . Here is there tourney results


2014 - lost first round Mercer

2013- lost elite 8 UL

2012- Lost to Lehigh in first round

2011 - lost to Zona in sweet 16

2010- won title

2009 - lost to Nova in sweet 16

2008 - Lost to WVU 2nd round

2007 - lost to VCU in first round

2006 - Lost to LSU in sweet 16

2005 - lost Michigan St in sweet 16

that is his ten year run . LOL Losing to VCU ,Leheigh AND mercer.


This post was edited on 1/25 5:13 PM by caneintally

One of the more under-reported facts about the Coach K legacy is his shocking underachievement relative to seed in the NCAA tourney. He rivals Dean smith in this regard. He regularly loses games that he is not supposed to lose. It's the NCAA tourney, so anything can happen, but Coach K regularly does LESS with MORE.

I'm no fan of Coach K and Duke, but showing this 10-year period as evidence of less than stellar performance is probably not a good idea, since we have had two NIT appearances during the same time. It doesn't make anyone any less of a UK fan to respect his and the school's accomplishments.

 

[englishmajor]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by Neue Regel:

Originally posted by Wildcatsworld:
7 loss team BAYLOR was their 3 seed

Baylor was ranked in the top 10 in the coaches poll at EOY and had that entire Texas crowd cheering them on. You guys act like that was some high school game, Geez Duke trailed that game with 5 or 6 minutes to go and barely pulled it out thanks to huge 3 pointers from Scheyer and Smith and rebounding from the bigs.

They were a far, far tougher opponent than West Virginia was. I had my feet up on the couch during the West Virginia game eating potato chips. (lol)

We're talking about the cakewalk you were gifted before the tourney. Baylor was ranked 19th and 20th in the polls going into it. They could've at least put in a Mercer or a Lehigh to test you

 

[EvilMD]

Coach Cal is 18-3 in the tournament since coming to UK. That rivals K's best run ever.

 

[mjj_2K]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by STEVE!:

Originally posted by STUCKNBIG10:

Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by Tampa_cat54:
They've been to the Sweet Sixteen NINE times since winning the title in 2001.

Are you on crack?

LOL no i meant they have gotten past the sweet 16 2 times . and i said 10 years which starts in 2005 not 2002 but the point is the same . This is pretty common knowledge at least on this board but i should of made that more clear . Here is there tourney results


2014 - lost first round Mercer

2013- lost elite 8 UL

2012- Lost to Lehigh in first round

2011 - lost to Zona in sweet 16

2010- won title

2009 - lost to Nova in sweet 16

2008 - Lost to WVU 2nd round

2007 - lost to VCU in first round

2006 - Lost to LSU in sweet 16

2005 - lost Michigan St in sweet 16

that is his ten year run . LOL Losing to VCU ,Leheigh AND mercer.


This post was edited on 1/25 5:13 PM by caneintally

One of the more under-reported facts about the Coach K legacy is his shocking underachievement relative to seed in the NCAA tourney. He rivals Dean smith in this regard. He regularly loses games that he is not supposed to lose. It's the NCAA tourney, so anything can happen, but Coach K regularly does LESS with MORE.

I'm no fan of Coach K and Duke, but showing this 10-year period as evidence of less than stellar performance is probably not a good idea, since we have had two NIT appearances during the same time. It doesn't make anyone any less of a UK fan to respect his and the school's accomplishments.

UK also has 23 NCAA Tournament wins in that time period, compared to Duke's 18, despite the fact we're talking about a 10 year period that includes the last 2 years of Tubby, and BCG.

So yeah, I see nothing wrong with pointing out the truth.

Krzyzewski has had an epic career, but the NCAA Tournament failures of the last decade are part of that record. And it's an absolute fact that no school has ever come remotely close to losing early so many times as a high seed in such a relatively short period of time. I guess you could count DePaul, losing their first game 3 years in a row as a 1 seed from 80-82, but that was a flash, not something spread out over a 10-15 year period.

And it's not just the fact that they've lost, but the fact that few of those losses (other than purely embarrassing ones, to VCU, Lehigh, and Mercer) have even been close. They lost by 10 to Mich St in 05, by 8 to LSU in 06, by 23 to Villanova in 09, by 16 to Arizona in 11, and by 22 to UL in 13. In 3 of those, they were the 1 seed.

K has kept himself in the forefront of college basketball in large part because his teams have so consistently been near the top in the regular season. It's only fair to point out how may times that's led nowhere.

 

[englishmajor]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by mj2k10:


And it's not just the fact that they've lost, but the fact that few of those losses (other than purely embarrassing ones, to VCU, Lehigh, and Mercer) have even been close. They lost by 10 to Mich St in 05, by 8 to LSU in 06, by 23 to Villanova in 09, by 16 to Arizona in 11, and by 22 to UL in 13. In 3 of those, they were the 1 seed.

 

[Team America]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by Neue Regel:

Originally posted by Wildcatsworld:
7 loss team BAYLOR was their 3 seed

Baylor was ranked in the top 10 in the coaches poll at EOY and had that entire Texas crowd cheering them on. You guys act like that was some high school game, Geez Duke trailed that game with 5 or 6 minutes to go and barely pulled it out thanks to a horrible block/charge call gifted to Duke..

They were a far, far tougher opponent than West Virginia was. I had my feet up on the couch during the West Virginia game eating potato chips. (lol)
This post was edited on 1/26 12:47 PM by Neue Regel

FIFY

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Re: 2 sweet 16's in 10 years .

Originally posted by mj2k10:

Originally posted by STEVE!:

Originally posted by STUCKNBIG10:

Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by Tampa_cat54:
They've been to the Sweet Sixteen NINE times since winning the title in 2001.

Are you on crack?

LOL no i meant they have gotten past the sweet 16 2 times . and i said 10 years which starts in 2005 not 2002 but the point is the same . This is pretty common knowledge at least on this board but i should of made that more clear . Here is there tourney results


2014 - lost first round Mercer

2013- lost elite 8 UL

2012- Lost to Lehigh in first round

2011 - lost to Zona in sweet 16

2010- won title

2009 - lost to Nova in sweet 16

2008 - Lost to WVU 2nd round

2007 - lost to VCU in first round

2006 - Lost to LSU in sweet 16

2005 - lost Michigan St in sweet 16

that is his ten year run . LOL Losing to VCU ,Leheigh AND mercer.



This post was edited on 1/25 5:13 PM by caneintally

One of the more under-reported facts about the Coach K legacy is his shocking underachievement relative to seed in the NCAA tourney. He rivals Dean smith in this regard. He regularly loses games that he is not supposed to lose. It's the NCAA tourney, so anything can happen, but Coach K regularly does LESS with MORE.

I'm no fan of Coach K and Duke, but showing this 10-year period as evidence of less than stellar performance is probably not a good idea, since we have had two NIT appearances during the same time. It doesn't make anyone any less of a UK fan to respect his and the school's accomplishments.

UK also has 23 NCAA Tournament wins in that time period, compared to Duke's 18, despite the fact we're talking about a 10 year period that includes the last 2 years of Tubby, and BCG.

So yeah, I see nothing wrong with pointing out the truth.

Krzyzewski has had an epic career, but the NCAA Tournament failures of the last decade are part of that record. And it's an absolute fact that no school has ever come remotely close to losing early so many times as a high seed in such a relatively short period of time. I guess you could count DePaul, losing their first game 3 years in a row as a 1 seed from 80-82, but that was a flash, not something spread out over a 10-15 year period.

And it's not just the fact that they've lost, but the fact that few of those losses (other than purely embarrassing ones, to VCU, Lehigh, and Mercer) have even been close. They lost by 10 to Mich St in 05, by 8 to LSU in 06, by 23 to Villanova in 09, by 16 to Arizona in 11, and by 22 to UL in 13. In 3 of those, they were the 1 seed.

K has kept himself in the forefront of college basketball in large part because his teams have so consistently been near the top in the regular season. It's only fair to point out how may times that's led nowhere.

ESPN created overrated players, making up overrated teams, in an overrated conference, playing for an overrated, albeit great coach. This translates into apparent upsets, which weren't really upsets at all. Just the better team winning.