Pat McAfee says "something special"......what do you think he means?

MountaineerWV

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He loves him some Rich Rod, so is that what he is referring to? Rich Rod is also the top candidate for the UCF job and could use that as leverage, which could hurt his chances. Of course he sits next to Nick Saban, but does he come back after only 1 year?

I don't see "special" being someone who does not have specific ties to WVU football or a football "legend". If it's the OC at Penn State or Odom at UNLV, that's not "special".

Should be a fun couple of days.
 

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He loves him some Rich Rod, so is that what he is referring to? Rich Rod is also the top candidate for the UCF job and could use that as leverage, which could hurt his chances. Of course he sits next to Nick Saban, but does he come back after only 1 year?

I don't see "special" being someone who does not have specific ties to WVU football or a football "legend". If it's the OC at Penn State or Odom at UNLV, that's not "special".

Should be a fun couple of days.
I think some of his comments are hyperbole. Just like GG running wild. He's hyping the program and thankfully so. I’m not sure he has an inside scoop as of the time of that post to know one way or another, but I could be wrong.
 

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He loves him some Rich Rod, so is that what he is referring to? Rich Rod is also the top candidate for the UCF job and could use that as leverage, which could hurt his chances. Of course he sits next to Nick Saban, but does he come back after only 1 year?

I don't see "special" being someone who does not have specific ties to WVU football or a football "legend". If it's the OC at Penn State or Odom at UNLV, that's not "special".

Should be a fun couple of days.
Where do you see that Rich is the top candidate for the UCF job? I have looked at a few articles naming candidates for that job and his name is not listed.
 

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He loves him some Rich Rod, so is that what he is referring to? Rich Rod is also the top candidate for the UCF job and could use that as leverage, which could hurt his chances. Of course he sits next to Nick Saban, but does he come back after only 1 year?

I don't see "special" being someone who does not have specific ties to WVU football or a football "legend". If it's the OC at Penn State or Odom at UNLV, that's not "special".

Should be a fun couple of days.
Since when does McAfee do the hiring at WVU?

He could also be talking about Saban. Possibly could just be babbling at the mouth as he usually does.
 

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The only way I see it happening is if Ken Kendrick tells WVU to hire him back. Is it possible? Maybe. I just doubt it will
I just hope whoever gets it is the guy that Baker wants. I hope his arm doesn't get twisted into hiring someone that some influential booster wants.
 

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Whoever it is I'm behind them even if it's not one of the guys I would choose. Rich Rod, I just can't see it at all being realistic, but if it is he has my full support. Same with Jimbo. Same with Schumann, the PSU OC, etc, etc.
 

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Doesn't seem like Baker decided who to hire a month ago like oceantide83 says. Sounds like a full blown process is playing out right now with plenty of candidates.
 

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Doesn't seem like Baker decided who to hire a month ago like oceantide83 says. Sounds like a full blown process is playing out right now with plenty of candidates.
Negotiations could be occurring with new coach now or they are in a conference title game. Perhaps even preparing for a playoff game. It's hard to tell. But you can guarantee they want it wrapped up soon. But wanting and getting are 2 different things.
 

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Doesn't seem like Baker decided who to hire a month ago like oceantide83 says. Sounds like a full blown process is playing out right now with plenty of candidates.
If he (Baker) immediately came out and said "here's your new coach", then Brown could have his lawyer go after WVU for breach of contract or other items, because it would potentially show that WVU admins were already searching for a new coach while still employing one, same way a coach isn't supposed to be able to do the same to find a new job while still under contract (yes, it happens....but usually there's a little grace period and a lot of lying). I still believe that the decision was made after the K-State game and that is when the candidates, and future head coach, began behind the scenes discussions and negotiations.
 

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Negotiations could be occurring with new coach now or they are in a conference title game. Perhaps even preparing for a playoff game. It's hard to tell. But you can guarantee they want it wrapped up soon. But wanting and getting are 2 different things.
You're right wanting and getting are two different things. Thats what annoys me about McAfee when he makes statements that a lot of people want the Wvu job. I'm sure there are a lot of coaches in the G5 and assistants in the power 5 that would jump at this job if offered. The real question is how many of these guys would we actually want. Only Baker and some of his closest confidants really know that answer.
 

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You're right wanting and getting are two different things. Thats what annoys me about McAfee when he makes statements that a lot of people want the Wvu job. I'm sure there are a lot of coaches in the G5 and assistants in the power 5 that would jump at this job if offered. The real question is how many of these guys would we actually want. Only Baker and some of his closest confidants really know that answer.
Yeah I’m not sure how much I believe Pat McAfee, but I’m not saying he’s wrong. WVU should be an attractive job.
 

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I don't know how attractive it is hopefully it’s attractive to the right people.
If a coach can win 8-9 games a year, they could likely retire here at WVU. That’s got to be attractive to a lot of coaches I would think. It depends on the type of coach. Some will view it as a stepping stone as well.
 

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If a coach can win 8-9 games a year, they could likely retire here at WVU. That’s got to be attractive to a lot of coaches I would think. It depends on the type of coach. Some will view it as a stepping stone as well.
Yes, but we have never had a coach win 8-9 games a year here on a consistent basis. I would say the majority view Wvu as a steppingstone. A lot has changed in this job in the last 15 years. We are in the Big 12. We have only won more than 8 games twice since being here. That was in 2016 and 2023 and both those seasons were deemed as down years in the conference. We aren't playing games in areas where we are recruiting. This is a bigger problem than most realize. It's the real reason Utah is not happy about being in the Big 12. The majority of Utah's recruiting is California based, and they don't have a presence there anymore. Look what happened to Wvu's Florida recruiting once we left the big east. In our final season in the Big East, we signed 13 players from the state of Florida. We haven't come anywhere close to that since we have been in the big 12. We have had two coaches in a row that were considered up and comers fail here. According to Locked on West Virginia and some of the other podcasts covering Big 12 football, Wvu is in the lower half of the conference when it comes to NIL. It doesn't mean we can't get a good coach, and that people won't be interested but I think coaches looked at this job more favorable 15 years ago then they do today. Especially when most are looking to parlay it into a bigger gig.
 

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Yes, but we have never had a coach win 8-9 games a year here on a consistent basis. I would say the majority view Wvu as a steppingstone. A lot has changed in this job in the last 15 years. We are in the Big 12. We have only won more than 8 games twice since being here. That was in 2016 and 2023 and both those seasons were deemed as down years in the conference. We aren't playing games in areas where we are recruiting. This is a bigger problem than most realize. It's the real reason Utah is not happy about being in the Big 12. The majority of Utah's recruiting is California based, and they don't have a presence there anymore. Look what happened to Wvu's Florida recruiting once we left the big east. In our final season in the Big East, we signed 13 players from the state of Florida. We haven't come anywhere close to that since we have been in the big 12. We have had two coaches in a row that were considered up and comers fail here. According to Locked on West Virginia and some of the other podcasts covering Big 12 football, Wvu is in the lower half of the conference when it comes to NIL. It doesn't mean we can't get a good coach, and that people won't be interested but I think coaches looked at this job more favorable 15 years ago then they do today. Especially when most are looking to parlay it into a bigger gig.
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WVU is an attractive place. Brown is the only one who has got to enjoy the 50 million dollar upgrades WVU did to the facilities to bring us up to being top notch. Why not us? Wvu is a top 20 program and has potential for more.

 

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Yes, but we have never had a coach win 8-9 games a year here on a consistent basis. I would say the majority view Wvu as a steppingstone. A lot has changed in this job in the last 15 years ago. We are in the Big 12. We have only won more than 8 games twice since being here. That was in 2016 and 2023 and both those seasons were deemed as down years in the conference. We aren't playing games in areas where we are recruiting. This is a bigger problem than most realize. It's the real reason Utah is not happy about being in the Big 12. The majority of Utah's recruiting is California based, and they don't have a presence there anymore. Look what happened to Wvu's Florida recruiting once we left the big east. In our final season in the Big East, we signed 13 players from the state of Florida. We haven't come anywhere close to that since we have been in the big 12. We have had two coaches in a row that were considered up and comers fail here. According to Locked on West Virginia and some of the other podcasts covering Big 12 football, Wvu is in the lower half of the conference when it comes to NIL. It doesn't mean we can't get a good coach, and that people won't be interested but I think coaches looked at this job more favorable 15 years ago then they do today. Especially when most are looking to parlay it into a bigger gig.
I disagree. Rodriguez was winning 8-9 a year. Every year except his first. Plus there’s 4 power conferences, whereas there were 6 of them 15 years ago. That translates into lesser schools in major college football. Theoretically, WVU should be able to attract more talent. Now you can argue the NIL and transfer portal has affected that and I’d agree with you. However, I don’t think there’s much difference in any of the programs of the Big 12. There’s a drastic difference when you compare the SEC and Big10 to the Big12 and ACC. However we’re not talking about getting throttled when we play the SEC and B10. We’re talking about getting throttled by 7-8 win teams in our own conference like Baylor and Texas Tech. That shouldn’t be happening
 

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I disagree. Rodriguez was winning 8-9 a year. Every year except his first. Plus there’s 4 power conferences, whereas there were 6 of them 15 years ago. That translates into lesser schools in major college football. Theoretically, WVU should be able to attract more talent. Now you can argue the NIL and transfer portal has affected that and I’d agree with you. However, I don’t think there’s much difference in any of the programs of the Big 12. There’s a drastic difference when you compare the SEC and Big10 to the Big12 and ACC. However we’re not talking about getting throttled when we play the SEC and B10. We’re talking about getting throttled by 7-8 win teams in our own conference like Baylor and Texas Tech. That shouldn’t be happening

I agree with your post except the contention that 4 instead of 6 power conferences means less competition. Those 6 conferences averaged less than 12 teams per conference. Now each power 4 is 16 minimum.
 

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I disagree. Rodriguez was winning 8-9 a year. Every year except his first. Plus there’s 4 power conferences, whereas there were 6 of them 15 years ago. That translates into lesser schools in major college football. Theoretically, WVU should be able to attract more talent. Now you can argue the NIL and transfer portal has affected that and I’d agree with you. However, I don’t think there’s much difference in any of the programs of the Big 12. There’s a drastic difference when you compare the SEC and Big10 to the Big12 and ACC. However we’re not talking about getting throttled when we play the SEC and B10. We’re talking about getting throttled by 7-8 win teams in our own conference like Baylor and Texas Tech. That shouldn’t be happening
Rodriquez was playing weak schedules. He was the only coach that reached that 8–9-win threshold you threw out. Look at the 2005 schedule it was a joke. In that era there was about 3-4 games that you could say we had a chance of losing. Today there is about 4 games where you could say we would win for sure. There maybe four power conferences and not six but there are more members in that four then there were in those six. The only teams currently not a member of the power 4 who were power 6 members are Uconn , USF, Wash state and Oregon State but you replace them with Smu, Ucf, Houston, Byu and Cincinatti. The majority of recruits do not want to play in the Big 12 or Acc. They want to go to the Big 10 and Sec where the money is. These conferences make double in tv revenue. There NiL capabilities are far superior. It's the reason you see significant improvement in some of these middle of the pack programs in these conferences. I agree we shouldn't be getting throttled by some of the teams we play but if your program is at the bottom of the big 12 in NIL like some of the podcasts have said on quite few occasions then you should expect it. The big 12 is the best paycheck we can get at the moment but after that it's not a good situation for us. You have to be playing games in your recruiting footprint and that's not currently happening. When Rod had the success, you speak of was Wvu playing in middle America? or was it playing on the east coast and Florida where we belong.
 

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Rodriquez was playing weak schedules. He was the only coach that reached that 8–9-win threshold you threw out. Look at the 2005 schedule it was a joke. In that era there was about 3-4 games that you could say we had a chance of losing. Today there is about 4 games where you could say we would win for sure. There maybe four power conferences and not six but there are more members in that four then there were in those six. The only teams currently not a member of the power 4 who were power 6 members are Uconn , USF, Wash state and Oregon State but you replace them with Smu, Ucf, Houston, Byu and Cincinatti. The majority of recruits do not want to play in the Big 12 or Acc. They want to go to the Big 10 and Sec where the money is. These conferences make double in tv revenue. There NiL capabilities are far superior. It's the reason you see significant improvement in some of these middle of the pack programs in these conferences. I agree we shouldn't be getting throttled by some of the teams we play but if your program is at the bottom of the big 12 in NIL like some of the podcasts have said on quite few occasions then you should expect it. The big 12 is the best paycheck we can get at the moment but after that it's not a good situation for us. You have to be playing games in your recruiting footprint and that's not currently happening. When Rod had the success, you speak of was Wvu playing in middle America? or was it playing on the east coast and Florida where we belong.

Thank you for writing the book on how much WVU sucks and isn't worthy of a good coach and even RR is overrated. We appreciate how great of a fan you are. I bet the ladies love your negativity and low standards. That's the way to earn respect in this world. Nothing says "I win in life " quite like low self-esteem. We should just forget getting better and just accept mediocrity since we are West Virginia and not in the SEC or big 10. They should hire you to do motivational speeches before the game for the players. Perhaps we should forfeit our bcs trophies or put them in a closet. We wouldn't want recruits thinking we have a good history of winning football. Heck we should've just kept Neal Brown.
 
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