Penn State DE Chop Robinson makes decision for bowl game & 2024 NFL Draft

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I will never understand why anyone would be upset about a player not playing in a truly meaningless game.
What if you gave a substantial amount of money to an NIL group to support Penn State football and then learned that that group was still providing support to a player who, though healthy, chose not to show up? Would you send them money next year? Why would you pay for non performance? You probably wouldn’t pay an employee who refuses to work.
 

psuro

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No problem with this. He was fun to watch the last two years.
 

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Ron Popeil's last minute NIL offer wasn't enough to keep him around for another season.
 

LionJim

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no really , it is only because you value a NC more than say a PeachBowl championship. Thats your set of values, not necessarily mine.
Meaningful to who? Playing for a NC is meaningful to the players, last week’s games showed that. Of course the players value playing in the CFP more than they would playing the Peach Bowl.
 
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Meaningful to who? Playing for a NC is meaningful to the players, last week’s games showed that. Of course the players value playing in the CFP more than they would playing the Peach Bowl.
only because we have taught them that.
 

LionJim

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only because we have taught them that.
Well, sure. I’m currently reading The Iliad. There’s a lot of bloodthirsty trophy hunting in it. And the trash talk is really top-notch. But the CFP is still meaningful.
 

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Well, sure. I’m currently reading The Iliad. There’s a lot of bloodthirsty trophy hunting in it. And the trash talk is really top-notch. But the CFP is still meaningful.
Unless you’re reading it in the Ancient Greek format I’m not impressed.
 
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Meaningful to who? Playing for a NC is meaningful to the players, last week’s games showed that. Of course the players value playing in the CFP more than they would playing the Peach Bowl.
Penn State did not have a “meaningful” game after the Ohio State loss.
 

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Don't you mean Michigan? At any rate, PSU played hard the last two weeks meaningful or not. Taking pride in performance and working to improve bring meaning to any endeavor.
No, Ohio State. Penn State wasn’t getting into the playoffs with a loss.
I agree with your premise though. Every game means something if you’re playing it.
 
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I will never understand why anyone would be upset about a player not playing in a truly meaningless game.
It's exactly as meaningful or meaningless as the Rutgers and MSU games in which he played. Exactly. He even went back into the MSU game after being injured and the game being out of hand. Not commenting on Chop's decision. But to call the bowl game "truly meaningless" is objectively wrong.
 
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I will never understand why anyone would be upset about a player not playing in a truly meaningless game.

I will never understand why anyone would be upset about a player not playing in a truly meaningless game.
Nothing wrong with your understanding, but if you were my age (83), and lived and grew up in the JoePa era, you would understand perfectly.
 

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I will never understand why anyone would be upset about a player not playing in a truly meaningless game.
And many of us will never understand how any "fan" could possibly consider any game, let alone a NY6 bowl game, to be meaningless. As with so many things in today's digital society, I suspect the vast majority of people who speak in those terms don't really mean it, certainly not literally. My guess is they feel the need to emphasize some point they want to make, and wildly overstate their position, thinking the gross exaggeration will have the desired effect.
 
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Nothing wrong with your understanding, but if you were my age (83), and lived and grew up in the JoePa era, you would understand perfectly.
I recall those days. Players took pride in playing for a team, Camaraderie with a group of guys, representing a great university and its fans. Today’s ME generation for the most part is pretty much focused on one thing, the almighty dollar.
Any sense of team spirit has long ago left the building.
 

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Nothing wrong with your understanding, but if you were my age (83), and lived and grew up in the JoePa era, you would understand perfectly.
Upset that the times have changed...sure I guess. Upset at a young man trying to secure his future for himself and his family.....that is just greedy fans IMO. Sure it would be great if he played, but he has that possible first round pick by his name and him going to work for that early isn't any indictment on him. To be fair even Joe couldn't have stopped this train without other coaches using it against him.
 
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And many of us will never understand how any "fan" could possibly consider any game, let alone a NY6 bowl game, to be meaningless. As with so many things in today's digital society, I suspect the vast majority of people who speak in those terms don't really mean it, certainly not literally. My guess is they feel the need to emphasize some point they want to make, and wildly overstate their position, thinking the gross exaggeration will have the desired effect.
it is truly meaningless. The entire tradition of bowl games cost us several chances at national championships. I am very much looking forward to the playoffs and good riddance to the bowls. Why would a player risk injury to make money for some networks who don't give a damn about them.
 

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it is truly meaningless. The entire tradition of bowl games cost us several chances at national championships. I am very much looking forward to the playoffs and good riddance to the bowls. Why would a player risk injury to make money for some networks who don't give a damn about them.
I realize the "in my opinion" is to be assumed, but it would still be wise to state that, because making that statement as if it is fact isn't a good look.
 
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it is truly meaningless. The entire tradition of bowl games cost us several chances at national championships. I am very much looking forward to the playoffs and good riddance to the bowls. Why would a player risk injury to make money for some networks who don't give a damn about them.
You didn't respond above so I'm guessing you won't respond here. But why did Robinson play against MSU? Why did he come back into the game after being hurt? What changed between that game and the next game? No one, except maybe you, would say a Black Friday-night game against a terrible MSU was more meaningful than a NY6 bowl game against a #11-ranked SEC team. So what makes a game meaningless to you?
 
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You didn't respond above so I'm guessing you won't respond here. But why did Robinson play against MSU? Why did he come back into the game after being hurt? What changed between that game and the next game? No one, except maybe you, would say a Black Friday-night game against a terrible MSU was more meaningful than a NY6 bowl game against a #11-ranked SEC team. So what makes a game meaningless to you?

Hello. Land Grant Trophy.