Penn State needs to find a coach who hasn't peaked yet, which is tougher than it sounds

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Coaches have a shelf life, just like players do. Coaches that have success early in their career are able to build an aura of competence and winning around themselves. Some of these coaches are truly great coaches, and some just happen to be at the right place and at the right time. Some coaches are able to leverage their success narrative into more lucrative extensions and stay where they are, and other coaches keep moving up the ranks into higher and higher profile jobs.

But once that aura of success is broken, it can be really tough to get it back. So when I see a guy like Lane Kiffin, Sark, or Nick Saban have their career derailed and then build it back, I have to give them a ton of credit. Kids can easily stop buying your schtick, and they tune you out. Look at a guy like Brian Kelly. You have to wonder if that guy will get a job at a prominent P4 school again. Bill Belichek? Jimbo Fisher? Remember when Butch Jones was a red-hot coaching commodity? Even a guy like Ryan Day may have been close to losing his job if OSU had flamed out in the playoffs last year. Instead, he rolls on with his winning persona intact. It will be interesting to see if a guy like Dabo can ever regain his mojo, or if he has peaked. Will BGJ have moderate success at VT and leave in a couple of years for a better job, or will kids stop being persuaded by his act?

Which brings me to the Penn State coaching search. I'm glad that I don't have to make this decision. My two favorite candidates are at different ends of the risk spectrum. What if unbeknown to everyone DeBoer has already peaked, and he actually NEEDS to leave Bama to keep his coaching reputation intact? He must know that Bama will fire him at the first sign of adversity. Meanwhile, Chesney's career is still ascending, and Penn State would feel stupid if the guy becomes a coaching star at another Big Ten school. But is the Penn State job too big for him, and JMU is his peak?

Meanwhile, Terry Smith has done himself and Penn State proud. He could be at the exact right place and right time for Penn State. He is an easy guy to root for. Maybe for us Penn State fans, that's the best situation of all.
 

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Coaches have a shelf life, just like players do. Coaches that have success early in their career are able to build an aura of competence and winning around themselves. Some of these coaches are truly great coaches, and some just happen to be at the right place and at the right time. Some coaches are able to leverage their success narrative into more lucrative extensions and stay where they are, and other coaches keep moving up the ranks into higher and higher profile jobs.

But once that aura of success is broken, it can be really tough to get it back. So when I see a guy like Lane Kiffin, Sark, or Nick Saban have their career derailed and then build it back, I have to give them a ton of credit. Kids can easily stop buying your schtick, and they tune you out. Look at a guy like Brian Kelly. You have to wonder if that guy will get a job at a prominent P4 school again. Bill Belichek? Jimbo Fisher? Remember when Butch Jones was a red-hot coaching commodity? Even a guy like Ryan Day may have been close to losing his job if OSU had flamed out in the playoffs last year. Instead, he rolls on with his winning persona intact. It will be interesting to see if a guy like Dabo can ever regain his mojo, or if he has peaked. Will BGJ have moderate success at VT and leave in a couple of years for a better job, or will kids stop being persuaded by his act?

Which brings me to the Penn State coaching search. I'm glad that I don't have to make this decision. My two favorite candidates are at different ends of the risk spectrum. What if unbeknown to everyone DeBoer has already peaked, and he actually NEEDS to leave Bama to keep his coaching reputation intact? He must know that Bama will fire him at the first sign of adversity. Meanwhile, Chesney's career is still ascending, and Penn State would feel stupid if the guy becomes a coaching star at another Big Ten school. But is the Penn State job too big for him, and JMU is his peak?

Meanwhile, Terry Smith has done himself and Penn State proud. He could be at the exact right place and right time for Penn State. He is an easy guy to root for. Maybe for us Penn State fans, that's the best situation of all.
There is a future Kirby Smart out there. Hitting on one is like finding the proverbial franchise QB
 
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Do we want a coach who has peaked or is peaked?
 

DaytonRickster

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Coaches have a shelf life, just like players do. Coaches that have success early in their career are able to build an aura of competence and winning around themselves. Some of these coaches are truly great coaches, and some just happen to be at the right place and at the right time. Some coaches are able to leverage their success narrative into more lucrative extensions and stay where they are, and other coaches keep moving up the ranks into higher and higher profile jobs.

But once that aura of success is broken, it can be really tough to get it back. So when I see a guy like Lane Kiffin, Sark, or Nick Saban have their career derailed and then build it back, I have to give them a ton of credit. Kids can easily stop buying your schtick, and they tune you out. Look at a guy like Brian Kelly. You have to wonder if that guy will get a job at a prominent P4 school again. Bill Belichek? Jimbo Fisher? Remember when Butch Jones was a red-hot coaching commodity? Even a guy like Ryan Day may have been close to losing his job if OSU had flamed out in the playoffs last year. Instead, he rolls on with his winning persona intact. It will be interesting to see if a guy like Dabo can ever regain his mojo, or if he has peaked. Will BGJ have moderate success at VT and leave in a couple of years for a better job, or will kids stop being persuaded by his act?

Which brings me to the Penn State coaching search. I'm glad that I don't have to make this decision. My two favorite candidates are at different ends of the risk spectrum. What if unbeknown to everyone DeBoer has already peaked, and he actually NEEDS to leave Bama to keep his coaching reputation intact? He must know that Bama will fire him at the first sign of adversity. Meanwhile, Chesney's career is still ascending, and Penn State would feel stupid if the guy becomes a coaching star at another Big Ten school. But is the Penn State job too big for him, and JMU is his peak?

Meanwhile, Terry Smith has done himself and Penn State proud. He could be at the exact right place and right time for Penn State. He is an easy guy to root for. Maybe for us Penn State fans, that's the best situation of all.
Chesney is my choice. There is risk involved with him or Terry Smith. I look at what Chesney has done at JMU after Cignetti pillaged the JMU roster. Two winning seasons and has his team with a shot at the Group of 5 CFP slot.
He overcame adversity, rebuilt the roster and has won. That is a guy who has earned an opportunity at PSU.
 

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Chesney is my choice. There is risk involved with him or Terry Smith. I look at what Chesney has done at JMU after Cignetti pillaged the JMU roster. Two winning seasons and has his team with a shot at the Group of 5 CFP slot.
He overcame adversity, rebuilt the roster and has won. That is a guy who has earned an opportunity at PSU.
Oddly, that's exactly what the new coach at PSU is going to need to accomplish. I really hope Kraft gets him.
 

KingLando

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Kirby’s graduation rate 41%. Next lowest in the SEC is LSU at 69%. 🙄
And how many of those are going pro early or leaving to play elsewhere?
Not sure where you got those numbers but grad rates no longer mean anything. Do you see kids not wanting to go there or parents not letting them because of those numbers?
The days of Paterno preaching about getting your son an education are long gone.
 

TheBigUglies

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Chesney is my choice. There is risk involved with him or Terry Smith. I look at what Chesney has done at JMU after Cignetti pillaged the JMU roster. Two winning seasons and has his team with a shot at the Group of 5 CFP slot.
He overcame adversity, rebuilt the roster and has won. That is a guy who has earned an opportunity at PSU.
There is RISK with anyone that gets hired as the next coach.
 

DaytonRickster

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There is RISK with anyone that gets hired as the next coach.
True, but I think many of the names that were previously mentioned as strong possibilities have either extended or I see them removing themselves awaiting other (southern opportunities) except Terry Smith and Bob Chesney both of whom are very familiar with PSU's recruiting regions.
 
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Kirby’s graduation rate 41%. Next lowest in the SEC is LSU at 69%. 🙄
If a player on any team's roster wants to get an education, it's there for the taking. Who cares whether they graduate if they don't care enough to apply themselves to academics.
 

TheBigUglies

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True, but I think many of the names that were previously mentioned as strong possibilities have either extended or I see them removing themselves awaiting other (southern opportunities) except Terry Smith and Bob Chesney both of whom are very familiar with PSU's recruiting regions.
Didn't know who Chesney is so googled him. I am still on the Terry Smith train. Terry has been coaching in the Big 10 and has experience in the Big 10. If Chesney was an assistant in a major conference then maybe but Terry has more experience in a better conference.
 
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