Persecution of Christians significant indicator of future world chaos
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Bale and Slater have def suffered from some establishment bias when it comes to Oscar nominations. Perfect example: Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves
Honestly, the article talks about other faiths as well. Moderate Muslims seem to be big targets of terrorist groups, as they are seen as apostates.
FTFY JJ
No one should give any respect to any those media outlets. It's all hemmed up BS info entirely given to cause emotional arousal.
See that wonderful little highlighted box? That means this is an OPINION. Not a news article or any kind of fact/fact checking going on. It's an opinion by:
"David Curry is the President of Open Doors USA. For nearly 60 years, Open Doors has worked in the world's most oppressive countries, empowering Christians who are persecuted for their beliefs."
The president of an organization that works on the premise that Christians (and only Christians) are persecuted believes that this means future world chaos.
Gotcha.
^^^True, but unfortunately, to a great extent you make a distinction without any difference - increasingly, there's hardly any difference between "reporting" and "opinion"........
I don't know anything about David Curry, Open Doors, or if he is right or wrong, but where does it say that his premise is that "Christians (and only Christians)" are persecuted?Originally posted by buckmaster022:
See that wonderful little highlighted box? That means this is an OPINION. Not a news article or any kind of fact/fact checking going on. It's an opinion by:
"David Curry is the President of Open Doors USA. For nearly 60 years, Open Doors has worked in the world's most oppressive countries, empowering Christians who are persecuted for their beliefs."
The president of an organization that works on the premise that Christians (and only Christians) are persecuted believes that this means future world chaos.
Gotcha.
It's not that he thinks they are the only ones persecuted, his organization helps only the persecuted Christians. They are not the only religion being persecuted in most of these countries. The fact is that any religious run country or religion that is forced upon its people is trouble. I personally think the murder of homosexuals in Uganda in the name of Christianity is pretty terrible.
The article does speak of freedom of religion in general, but does focus on Christianity and radical Islam. However, groups like the Kurds are also persecuted in the much the same way.
Fox News should just put that wonderful little highlighted box at the top of every article they publish, because it's literally all they spew.Originally posted by buckmaster022:
See that wonderful little highlighted box? That means this is an OPINION. Not a news article or any kind of fact/fact checking going on. It's an opinion by:
"David Curry is the President of Open Doors USA. For nearly 60 years, Open Doors has worked in the world's most oppressive countries, empowering Christians who are persecuted for their beliefs."
The president of an organization that works on the premise that Christians (and only Christians) are persecuted believes that this means future world chaos.
Gotcha.
I don't remember trying to portray this article as anything other than an opinion piece. Isn't that still allowed in journalism?
Originally posted by TheDude73:
Fox News should just put that wonderful little highlighted box at the top of every article they publish, because it's literally all they spew.Originally posted by buckmaster022:
See that wonderful little highlighted box? That means this is an OPINION. Not a news article or any kind of fact/fact checking going on. It's an opinion by:
"David Curry is the President of Open Doors USA. For nearly 60 years, Open Doors has worked in the world's most oppressive countries, empowering Christians who are persecuted for their beliefs."
The president of an organization that works on the premise that Christians (and only Christians) are persecuted believes that this means future world chaos.
Gotcha.
Show me a news organization today that is any different. None are imo, they are all into sensationalizing the news for ratings or agenda pushing. Ratings=$.
That's all "journalism" is these days, so you don't need to preface.Originally posted by wkycatfan:
I don't remember trying to portray this article as anything other than an opinion piece. Isn't that still allowed in journalism?
FYI, Christians are not as persecuted as Fox would like you to believe. They get literally everything they want in most of the world - particularly the USA. It's just that when one person is killed for it, it makes news because Christians love support of their delusion that they're always subject to persecution or "attack". As with their religion, they aren't living in the realm of reality, so it is no surprise that they think increased criticism threatens their precious Christian Privilege.
The definition of persecution is not facing ridicule or criticism for their irrational beliefs, but don't tell them that. They think that someone calling them silly for such a belief directly equates to people trying to take away their belief system, and in turn they feel victimized and thus think that's the same as "persecution". Nothing is farther from the truth.
Most non-believers I know couldn't care less that people believe in their religious deities, pray, or go to a gaudy building a few times a week to talk to an invisible being. They may make fun of it, and they may make a point to keep it from bleeding into every possible aspect of our daily lives (politics, government, schools, work, etc.), but I have yet to see atheist groups rallying to rid their cities/towns of churches and religious people. If anything, I've seen Christians rallying to rid or prevent their cities/towns from having Mosques and Islamic worship centers, as well as Christians rallying to have only their religious figures represented in US Government buildings and holiday displays. Then there are the Christians rallying to sneak their belief system into public schools, science curriculum, and even into areas that are dominated by other religions or lack thereof (there is a current push for "missionary work" in the most atheist country in the world - Sweden).
So spare me with the persecution bologna - if anything, Christianity is enjoying its best years of freedom to go and do whatever they want, without much push back, at least in the US.
At least they're not talking about the "persecution" of American Christians this time because, you know, that's not a real thing.
As for Christians living in the crazy part of the world, that's what happens when you go against the grain in a theocracy.
As for Christians living in the crazy part of the world, that's what happens when you go against the grain in a theocracy.
Dude,The fact that you can't make your point without the insulting attacks against Christians makes your rant come across as nothing more than agenda driven hate. If you don't believe, fine, whatever. The fact that Islamic terror groups are kidnapping and killing innocent Christians is a fact. All news organizations have been reporting on ISIS and Others - not just Fox and I am not a Fox supporter.
As for Fox News, I am aware they have bias, and I attempt to get my news from multiple sources, and sift it all down to some semblance of truth.
I am capable of reading/linking articles from multiple sources. Today, it just happened to be Fox.
I am capable of reading/linking articles from multiple sources. Today, it just happened to be Fox.
Isn't persecution the central theme in all religions? ... We are persecuted.... give me money so I can help us not be persecuted!
They all have bias. CNN and MSNBC are notorious for race baiting and making **** up.
These shows fake news channels need to be viewed the same way people enjoy Jerry Springer. Entertainment value. Although calling Jerry Springer "entertainment" may be a bit of a stretch.
Dude, there were religious symbols in every public school I attended And I graduated in 92. This sneaking of items is bull, don't act like it was always the way it is now, because it wasnt. The Ten Commandments were posted in the halls of schools and courthouses. Just like they still are in the Supreme Court.
IF you choose not to believe in God that's on you, but don't try to rewrite history to fit your view, because some of us lived through it.
IF you choose not to believe in God that's on you, but don't try to rewrite history to fit your view, because some of us lived through it.
They're (ISIS) also killing Jordanian Muslim pilots...and other Muslims in Iraq. In fact, most of the people they've killed are Muslims.
And your response proves my point - no one can dare say anything critical about religious believers, otherwise it's "insulting" or "classless". A typical Christian Privilege retort.
Rack this post. The whole thing.
Christians are thinking ISIS is killing more Christians than Muslims? BWAHAHAHAHHA That's hilarious.
That's because we all grew up in the sticks of Kentucky. Most schools in the south had this. I doubt schools in major metropolitan areas of the USA, where more than just Jesus believers attended, can say the same thing - that they waltzed by the 10 commandment plaques and had morning and pre-football game prayers. Sorry, but I'm pretty sure what you describe was and still is a more common occurrence in our southern US due to years of slow intellectual growth and negative reaction to those that dared question the status quo, and is not the common overall theme today in most of the USA.
Which brings me to an interesting thought - perhaps Christianity (and all religions for that matter) is more oppressed/persecuted by their own people than they are by those of other beliefs. Think about it - years of slapping down anyone that questioned their own belief system, mostly by their own people. If you were of the "tribe" and had the balls to question the system, you were cast out and sometimes killed (now it's more of an oppressive reaction). Stay in line with our system, or face the consequences. That alone was enough to keep their own people in line with their system.
Who said they were killing more Christians than Muslims? No one, but they are only killing Muslims that oppose them, while killing and threatening Christians simply for being Christians.
Are Christians worldwide persecuted, why hell no, are Christians in that neck of the woods persecuted, uh yea.
Are Christians worldwide persecuted, why hell no, are Christians in that neck of the woods persecuted, uh yea.
I don't know, maybe it was just that way in the south, but it isn't that way anymore. And it's changed basically in the last 20 years.
Fair enough.
But back to the OP's original post - is all of this really going to result in "world chaos"? Because Christians are persecuted in Islamic countries? Would the world go to crap if Christianity faded away? Not as long as people just followed the general golden rule. I don't think Christianity is single-handedly holding our world society together.
And for the record, "infidel" in their definition includes Christians, Catholics, Buddhists, and non-believers - pretty much if you aren't Islamic, you're on their death list. It just so happens that Christianity is the most popular and common across the world, and they are the most aggressive (non-violent aggression, that is) in pushing their beliefs on others in those high-risk countries, so news outlets jump on these stories as if it's just the poor little Christians that are the only ones being "martyred", when in reality, it's all non-Islamic people that are being equally persecuted by these lunatics.
This post was edited on 2/24 4:50 PM by TheDude73
Dude, what do think the goal of these terrorist groups is? Is it possible that it is expansion, perhaps world domination?
If so, then the premise of the article would be true.
If so, then the premise of the article would be true.
The premise should be that if ISIS and Islamic lunatics take over the world, there'd be chaos.
However, the article centers around Christianity and if its removed by these crazies, the world will fall to pieces. The fact is it doesn't matter what one believes - these guys take over and there will be chaos (and we all know this is never going to happen). But that storyline wouldn't garner as many hits to Fox News, so they had to throw in the one religion they know 99% of their readers claim to follow - Christianity.
I'm not here to beat up on religious belief specifically - it's well known that I and many other Paddock readers/posters aren't religious and will always join in on criticism. I'm just pointing out that it's not just Christians that these Muslims are after - they want to kill everyone that isn't their type of Muslim, plain and simple. They're even killing their own Muslims if they aren't of the type that they subscribe to (reminder that Islam is the largest religion on earth, with Christianity creeping in at #2). To be honest, they would probably be more excited to kill an atheist than a Christian, although with such small numbers worldwide, we really don't pose as much of a threat to their world view as the #2 religion Christianity.
The guy that wrote that was trying to generate hits pure and simple. Is there some validity to it, yea, how much I don't know. Point is that ISIS is going to kill a lot of people, simply for not believing what they do.
Anyone who has been on here a while knows the Dude absolutely hates Christianity with a passion. Takes any chance to bash it and those who believe in it. It's pure hatred.
Not sure what he is talking about as far as Christians getting everything we want. That is an absolute lie. But, people like him that hate Christianity don't let the truth get in their way when it comes to their hatred.
I like the Dude. Very intelligent guy. Very intelligent, and I like reading his posts except relating to this topic.
Not sure what he is talking about as far as Christians getting everything we want. That is an absolute lie. But, people like him that hate Christianity don't let the truth get in their way when it comes to their hatred.
I like the Dude. Very intelligent guy. Very intelligent, and I like reading his posts except relating to this topic.