Political Thread: Global Warming Edition

[kybobcat_rivals185207]

Hat tip to Drudge.


Ice targets TX, deep South...

Arctic air returns to New England...

Detroit poised to break record for coldest month -- ever...

Cleveland breaks 1873 record...

Rabbis, Reverends, Imams Unite For Prayer Against More Snow in Boston...

Ann Arbor breaks record low temperature set in 1900!

SNOW ON GROUND IN 48 STATES...[/B]

 

[Bill Cosby]

So there's a new leak of confidential files from MI6, Mossad, Russian FSB, South African SSA and the Australian ASIO.

This should be interesting.

http://www.businessinsider.in/Theres-a-massive-new-leak-of-confidential-spy-files-from-MI6-Mossad-and-the-FSB/articleshow/46343705.cms

 

[RacerX.ksr]

Ain't nobody got spies like us.

 

[Deeeefense]

And while all those record lows were occurring, Anchorage Alaska was getting record highs into the 50s.

A word to the wise. Don't get your scientific information off of Drudge (or any other politically oriented sites), and don't let anyone make you believe that "The Globe" consists of just the contiguous United States.

Unusually cold weather has struck again
in the Lower 48, but communities across Alaska have experienced
high-temperature records this week. From the Arctic to the Alaska
Peninsula and even Anchorage, Alaskans are sweating through
February temps as high as the mid-50s, according to the National Weather Service.

This post was edited on 2/23 5:18 PM by Deeeefense

Alaska communities experience record high temps

 

[Deeeefense]

Warrior-Cat:

Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by warrior-cat:

Wrong, you must call it for what it is. The PC culture is not working

So I ask you again, why was it OK in your mind for George W. Bush to
not refer to al Quida as Islamic Terrorist but reprehensible for Obama
not to refer to ISIS as such? Is there a difference?

I never said it was ok, you just assumed it was.

========================================================================================

What other assumption could be made? Two pesidents have identical policies and you bash one and say nothing about the other, and offer no explanation as to why.

 

[qwesley]

Originally posted by Deeeefense:
Warrior-Cat:

identical policies

Just dumb. There was no ISIS in 2003 and I posted comments in the last thread where Bush did refer to them as Islamic terrorists.

Warrior, just remind this dipshit about when he said Cal would never win, when he said he could tell the future, and when he said he was a "moderate" and the just simply stfu.

 

[Tskware]

Oh no Mr. Bill. Please say it ain't so. Who woulda thunk it . . .

Oil companies paid researchers to create doubt??

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Is the climate changing? Yes. Is it caused by humans? Im sure our existence effects the climate in some way. But not to the extend we've been lead to believe.

How can this really be so hard? Dems refuse to admit humans aren't THE cause, and GOP refuse to admit humans are a cause at all.

 

[Bill Cosby]

I'll never understand how the people who question the data, and refuse to toe the popular flat earth line are so corrupted by money and special interests, but those who accept the data for face value and repeat popular science are completely uncorruptable.

Honestly, maybe that's a bigger case study. Figure out why money is able to corrupt one group of people, but the other group is completely above board.

It's almost like the left is just a bunch of completely arbitrary jackasses who are completely blind to anything that doesn't fit their agenda.


It's like we don't have Russian oil oligarchs funding environmentalists while the rest rely on US government funding for studies.

 

[warrior-cat]

Originally posted by Deeeefense:
Warrior-Cat:

Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by warrior-cat:

Wrong, you must call it for what it is. The PC culture is not working

So I ask you again, why was it OK in your mind for George W. Bush to
not refer to al Quida as Islamic Terrorist but reprehensible for Obama
not to refer to ISIS as such? Is there a difference?

I never said it was ok, you just assumed it was.

========================================================================================

What other assumption could be made? Two pesidents have identical policies and you bash one and say nothing about the other, and offer no explanation as to why.

I have been on record here saying forever that we needed to be out of there before Obama took over. Bush is gone and has been for over 6 years now. Obama is the current president who is now making many mistakes with foreign policies including not calling this what it is, Islamic terrorism. For those saying that it only legitimizes ISIL, news flash!.... they are a legitimate Islamic terrorist organization.

 

[KyFaninNC]

Why all the uproar about Rudy Guliani saying he didn't think Obama loves this country? Rudy is a private citizen not running for office. Did I miss the part where american citizens are not allowed to have and state an opinion?

American Ambassador and more US citizens killed in Libya, what does Obama do, go to a fund raiser.

Americans Beheaded by ISIS, Obama goes golfing.

American girl killed by ISIS, Obama does a selfie.

Easy for some people to get the impression Obama does not care for american people.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Originally posted by KyFaninNC:
Why all the uproar about Rudy Guliani saying he didn't think Obama loves this country? Rudy is a private citizen not running for office. Did I miss the part where american citizens are not allowed to have and state an opinion?

American Ambassador and more US citizens killed in Libya, what does Obama do, go to a fund raiser.

Americans Beheaded by ISIS, Obama goes golfing.

American girl killed by ISIS, Obama does a selfie.

Easy for some people to get the impression Obama does not care for american people.

The selfie after the US girl was beheaded by ISIS was a new low for Obama imo. And that's really saying something.

"Yea a girl lost her head and I'll do something about it. But first.....let me take a selfie"

 

[warrior-cat]

Originally posted by KyFaninNC:
Why all the uproar about Rudy Guliani saying he didn't think Obama loves this country? Rudy is a private citizen not running for office. Did I miss the part where american citizens are not allowed to have and state an opinion?

American Ambassador and more US citizens killed in Libya, what does Obama do, go to a fund raiser.

Americans Beheaded by ISIS, Obama goes golfing.

American girl killed by ISIS, Obama does a selfie.

Easy for some people to get the impression Obama does not care for american people.

I believe Rudy may have a point to a certain degree. Obama said he wanted to change America fudamentally and Michelle said this was the first time she was ever proud to be an American. I believe that they hate the American ideal and freedoms so, want to change it to suit their agenda....socialism.

 

[qwesley]

"How did you grow up, Giuliani? A privileged cracker? Or I should say, a privileged devil."

Louis Farrakhan

Chicago

 

[Bluemantoo]

A new model by Monckton, Briggs, and others predicts much more closely to the actual climate data than current models. Interesting read that admittedly doesn't explain everything, but is certainly more plausible than the skewed models that currently define the debate. This model basically estimates that climate change would more likely be around .09K over a century, which is basically negligible. I also read tonight that congress may investigate possible 'fudging' of temp data by NASA.






This post was edited on 2/24 1:10 PM by BlueManToo

New Climate Model

 

[dezyDeco]

Originally posted by KyFaninNC:
Why all the uproar about Rudy Guliani saying he didn't think Obama loves this country? Rudy is a private citizen not running for office.

******Did I miss the part where american citizens are not allowed to have and state an opinion?******

American Ambassador and more US citizens killed in Libya, what does Obama do, go to a fund raiser.
Americans Beheaded by ISIS, Obama goes golfing.
American girl killed by ISIS, Obama does a selfie.
Easy for some people to get the impression Obama does not care for american people.

Oh, if you're not a Lib-Dem, that went out of vogue about 6 1/2 years ago... about the time that darned Joe The Plumber asked Candidate obummer the only "tough" question he'd get while running for Prez. I just hope Rudy has his taxes in order!

 

[kybobcat_rivals185207]

Great Lakes ice cover may set record this week with two more arctic blasts

 

[qwesley]

Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert McDonald falsely claimed that he served in a military special forces unit, he admitted to the Huffington Post.
When a homeless veteran told McDonald in a conversation captured by CBS that he had served in special forces, the head of the VA replied that he had, too. The conversation aired during a The Huffington Post. "I was not in special forces."

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Good for him to come clean and not say it was "out of context".

But why even lie about that to begin with?

 

[qwesley]

Rev Wright's daughter reports to prison today for her role in fraud and money laundering in a govt jobs program called "I Am My Brother's Keeper".

Chicago

 

[warrior-cat]

Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:
Good for him to come clean and not say it was "out of context".

But why even lie about that to begin with?

He actually later said " I misspoke". Lying has become so much a part of this admins policies that it is hard to know what they mean on anything. I guess it is like taqiyya, if it is for the greater good (Liberal Agenda) then, it is acceptable.

 

[JHB4UK]

This article warms my heart, surveying the wreckage that is the current state of the corrupt fatcat public sector unions in Wisconsin. Walker is awesome, he implements conservatism to wildly successful results - hence why he is public enemy #1 among the liberal media.

some money quotes:

A groundskeeper at the veterans home complained that supervisors were no longer assigning overtime based on seniority because "there was no union."

Oh wow, so now since unions can't interfere the most qualified are being assigned OT instead of the ones who have been hanging around the longest? The horror.


"You have to be mean," she said. "We never got anything by being nice. We've had to walk out. We got things when we banged our fists on tables."
Brey jumped into the conversation.
"Sometimes I think," she stopped to collect the words delicately.
"Sometimes, I think, . . . that's . . . why they came after us, Jenny. Because they thought these teachers were too demanding."
"No, we have to fight," Fish responded. "It's for our students[/B]."

For the students. Your lavish above market price benefits & pay are for the students.

All those tears are so delicious.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Originally posted by qwesley:
Rev Wright's daughter reports to prison today for her role in fraud and money laundering in a govt jobs program called "I Am My Brother's Keeper".

Chicago

Could you even imagine if a conservative president had associated with Wright?

 

[qwesley]

Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:

Originally posted by qwesley:
Rev Wright's daughter reports to prison today for her role in fraud and money laundering in a govt jobs program called "I Am My Brother's Keeper".

Chicago

Could you even imagine if a conservative president had associated with Wright?

There are some good reads out there about the corruption of the housing and jobs programs in Chicago, same ones you see when you read Valerie Jarrett's bio.

But to your point, jux the scandal when Bush 41 simply spoke at Bob Jones U.

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

Originally posted by warrior-cat:

Originally posted by KyFaninNC:
Why all the uproar about Rudy Guliani saying he didn't think Obama loves this country? Rudy is a private citizen not running for office. Did I miss the part where american citizens are not allowed to have and state an opinion?

American Ambassador and more US citizens killed in Libya, what does Obama do, go to a fund raiser.

Americans Beheaded by ISIS, Obama goes golfing.

American girl killed by ISIS, Obama does a selfie.

Easy for some people to get the impression Obama does not care for american people.

I believe Rudy may have a point to a certain degree. Obama said he wanted to change America fudamentally and Michelle said this was the first time she was ever proud to be an American. I believe that they hate the American ideal and freedoms so, want to change it to suit their agenda....socialism.

Not an American, not a patriot, not a christian, it's all the same narrative from the idiot right of this country. It's pretty unpatriotic to accuse the President of not loving his country. Just dangerous and absolutely ridiculous. Republicans have constantly disrespected the President from the day he took office. Just a bunch of grumpy old men. Nevermind Guiliani is responsible for the biggest anti-American profiling program since Jim Crow. Hypocrites. Republicans love their version of America, not what America is.

Yeah socialism, that's really come about hasn't it? Not one thing people predicted Obama would change about America has come about.

 

[warrior-cat]

Originally posted by CatDaddy4daWin:

Originally posted by warrior-cat:

Originally posted by KyFaninNC:
Why all the uproar about Rudy Guliani saying he didn't think Obama loves this country? Rudy is a private citizen not running for office. Did I miss the part where american citizens are not allowed to have and state an opinion?

American Ambassador and more US citizens killed in Libya, what does Obama do, go to a fund raiser.

Americans Beheaded by ISIS, Obama goes golfing.

American girl killed by ISIS, Obama does a selfie.

Easy for some people to get the impression Obama does not care for american people.

I believe Rudy may have a point to a certain degree. Obama said he wanted to change America fudamentally and Michelle said this was the first time she was ever proud to be an American. I believe that they hate the American ideal and freedoms so, want to change it to suit their agenda....socialism.

Not an American, not a patriot, not a christian, it's all the same narrative from the idiot right of this country. It's pretty unpatriotic to accuse the President of not loving his country. Just dangerous and absolutely ridiculous. Republicans have constantly disrespected the President from the day he took office. Just a bunch of grumpy old men. Nevermind Guiliani is responsible for the biggest anti-American profiling program since Jim Crow. Hypocrites. Republicans love their version of America, not what America is.

Yeah socialism, that's really come about hasn't it? Not one thing people predicted Obama would change about America has come about.

Let's see, Obama has had a pass from most of the media outlets in this country and has not been beat up anywhere near what Bush had to endure and all you can do is cry when his actions are questioned? He is one of the if not the worst President we have ever had. You epitomize the left leaning liberal lemming that Obama needs to continue his agenda changing America.

 

[Deeeefense]

Originally posted by CatDaddy4daWin: Not an American, not a patriot, not a christian, it's all the same narrative from the idiot right of this country.

What I see as the difference between some on the right and everyone else, is that they exercise Nationalism or even Jingoism as opposed to Patriotism. The former is blind loyalty to your country, believing that there is a universal good in everything your country does and that you should be above any criticism. The later is love of country but recognizing it's imperfections and that we do sometimes make mistakes. It also realizes that to a responsible world superpower we have to have a certain amount of empathy towards other countries and their views. Patriotic Americans seek a more perfect union, Nationalistic Americans think we already are perfect. The president is Patriot but not Nationalistic or Jingoistic. That type of thinking, I believe is the root of the statement coming from the former mayor.

 

[Bill Cosby]

"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents - number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back - $30,000 for every man, woman and child.


That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic."

- Barack H. Obama




Now quick, someone tell me Obama actually meant something different than what he said and wasn't really questioning anyone's patriotism or love of country.


"I really love this country. I just want to fundamentally change it and **** on it's most important founding documents. Also, can somebody find these illegal aliens some jobs. I'd rather a large portion of the country sit at home on their fat uneducated asses so I can remain in power."

 

[KyFaninNC]

Originally posted by Bill Cosby:



"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents - number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back - $30,000 for every man, woman and child.


That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic."

- Barack H. Obama




Now quick, someone tell me Obama actually meant something different than what he said and wasn't really questioning anyone's patriotism or love of country.


"I really love this country. I just want to fundamentally change it and **** on it's most important founding documents. Also, can somebody find these illegal aliens some jobs. I'd rather a large portion of the country sit at home on their fat uneducated asses so I can remain in power."

Dee and cardkilla response that obama didn't really mean that, what he really meant is............ 5 4 3 2 1.

 

[warrior-cat]

Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by CatDaddy4daWin:



Not an American, not a patriot, not a christian, it's all the same narrative from the idiot right of this country.

What I see as the difference between some on the right and everyone else, is that they exercise Nationalism or even Jingoism as opposed to Patriotism. The former is blind loyalty to your country, believing that there is a universal good in everything your country does and that you should be above any criticism. The later is love of country but recognizing it's imperfections and that we do sometimes make mistakes. It also realizes that to a responsible world superpower we have to have a certain amount of empathy towards other countries and their views. Patriotic Americans seek a more perfect union, Nationalistic Americans think we already are perfect. The president is Patriot but not Nationalistic or Jingoistic. That type of thinking, I believe is the root of the statement coming from the former mayor.

What defines Obama and his followers is in Bold above. Like I said before, Bush was raked over the coals by the left for everything he did. If the right complains about Obama they are either racist or domestic terrorist. Funny how the left has no problem calling regular Americans terrorist but struggles with calling Islamic terrorist by their rightful name.

This post was edited on 2/24 1:05 PM by warrior-cat

 

[Bluemantoo]

The Kool-Aid drinkers are quick to attack those who suggest that Obama doesn't love our country. Yet, not one person in this thread (or in the media-at-large) has retorted with an iota of evidence that actually demonstrates that Obama does, in fact, love this country. It's fairly easy to produce a list of evidence as long as a football field to support the argument that Obama holds the founding principles and founding documents of this great nation in contempt, but it's a damn hard stretch to find any evidence to the contrary. I know him by his fruits, and as such, I suspect I'll be waiting quite a while for such evidence....

 

[KyFaninNC]

I do not know what is in Obama's heart, but his actions speak very loud. I think Obama's love of himself is far greater than his love for this country or it's people. He has shown no willingness to be a leader, all he seems to want to do is play golf and fly all over the world giving speeches.

He has criticized this country far more than he has praised it.

 

[wkycatfan_rivals376690]

There is more truth than fiction to what Guiliani said IMO. Obama ran on hope and change, implying that the country needed both, and needed fixing.

The larger implication is that he would love the country a lot more if he could fashion it more into what he thinks it should be.

IMO.

 

[Deeeefense]

Originally posted by warrior-cat:

Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by CatDaddy4daWin:



Not an American, not a patriot, not a christian, it's all the same narrative from the idiot right of this country.

What I see as the difference between some on the right and everyone else, is that they exercise Nationalism or even Jingoism as opposed to Patriotism. The former is blind loyalty to your country, believing that there is a universal good in everything your country does and that you should be above any criticism. The later is love of country but recognizing it's imperfections and that we do sometimes make mistakes. It also realizes that to a responsible world superpower we have to have a certain amount of empathy towards other countries and their views. Patriotic Americans seek a more perfect union, Nationalistic Americans think we already are perfect. The president is Patriot but not Nationalistic or Jingoistic. That type of thinking, I believe is the root of the statement coming from the former mayor.

What defines Obama and his followers is in Bold above. Like I said before, Bush was raked over the coals by the left for everything he did. If the right complains about Obama they are either racist or domestic terrorist. Funny how the left has no problem calling regular Americans terrorist but struggles with calling Islamic terrorist by their rightful name.

This post was edited on 2/24 1:05 PM by warrior-cat

There was a hell of a lot to complain about with GW Bush and even a lot of Republicans especially the Libertarian types did a fair share of it. This president or any other president should not be above criticism, but unwarranted personal attacks towards any president are destructive IMO. Even though I think Bush was the worst president of my lifetime, I stood up for him with the "Truthers" attacked his patriotism. He may have been a failure of a president but I never question his love of country or his interest in doing what he believed was in it's best interest.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

You were never given any reason Deeefense to question whether GWB loved this Country. You consider Bush worst than Carter? Really?

 

[warrior-cat]

Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by warrior-cat:

Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by CatDaddy4daWin:





Not an American, not a patriot, not a christian, it's all the same narrative from the idiot right of this country.

What I see as the difference between some on the right and everyone else, is that they exercise Nationalism or even Jingoism as opposed to Patriotism. The former is blind loyalty to your country, believing that there is a universal good in everything your country does and that you should be above any criticism. The later is love of country but recognizing it's imperfections and that we do sometimes make mistakes. It also realizes that to a responsible world superpower we have to have a certain amount of empathy towards other countries and their views. Patriotic Americans seek a more perfect union, Nationalistic Americans think we already are perfect. The president is Patriot but not Nationalistic or Jingoistic. That type of thinking, I believe is the root of the statement coming from the former mayor.

What defines Obama and his followers is in Bold above. Like I said before, Bush was raked over the coals by the left for everything he did. If the right complains about Obama they are either racist or domestic terrorist. Funny how the left has no problem calling regular Americans terrorist but struggles with calling Islamic terrorist by their rightful name.


This post was edited on 2/24 1:05 PM by warrior-cat

There was a hell of a lot to complain about with GW Bush and even a lot of Republicans especially the Libertarian types did a fair share of it. This president or any other president should not be above criticism, but unwarranted personal attacks towards any president are destructive IMO. Even though I think Bush was the worst president of my lifetime, I stood up for him with the "Truthers" attacked his patriotism. He may have been a failure of a president but I never question his love of country or his interest in doing what he believed was in it's best interest.

That is because he never gave you a reason to doubt it. He constantly professed his love for the country. Something Obama does not. Also, Obama has made it clear after winning the election that" we ( the dems)won so deal with it". That kind of attitude turned many off and showed that he only cared for the America that agreed with his agenda and that was it. This country is for everyone who is willing to work for what they have/want and go by it honestly. This president and many of his supporters think that they should just take what they want wether they worked for it or not. Lie, cheat, circumvent the system, go around congress and the constitution, change America into a nation of freeloaders and sloths at the expense of those who have worked hard all of their lives. He has proven to many that he does not care for the Americn dream that our fore fathers set into motion but, a liberal agenda bent on destroying much of what America is supposed to be.

Obama is the worst president we have ever had imo.

 

[wkycatfan_rivals376690]

Many liberals like what Obama has done as president, so to them, he is not bad at all.

This much seems undeniable to me, and goes to his oath of office, defending the Constitution, and his most important job, defending the country, its reputation around the world, and its citizens.

In these categories, he is the worst, IMO.

 

[Bill Cosby]

I just can't wait until Obama takes control of the internet. Maybe he can make us set our home page as obamalovesamerica.com.

Any video is prefaced with a message from our dear leader about his love for America and its people.

 

[Deeeefense]

Originally posted by Catfan in Tn.:
You were never given any reason Deeefense to question whether GWB loved this Country. You consider Bush worst than Carter? Really?

The "truthers" did - I didn't buy it.

Bush is 10x worse than Carter IMO but lets not argue opinons no one is going to change anyone's mind on that.

 

[dezyDeco]

Originally posted by Deeeefense:

Originally posted by Catfan in Tn.:
You were never given any reason Deeefense to question whether GWB loved this Country. You consider Bush worst than Carter? Really?

The "truthers" did - I didn't buy it.

Bush is 10x worse than Carter IMO but lets not argue opinons no one is going to change anyone's mind on that.

And obummer is definitely 100X worse than W... so that makes BO a thousand times worse than Carter!