Pope is Who He Was When He Was Hired

jedwar

Heisman
Dec 30, 2002
18,718
30,023
113

Coaching Record​


SeasonSchoolConfGWLW-L%SRSSOSAP PreAP HighAP FinalNotesAdjusted
2015-16Utah ValleyWAC301218.400-9.58-3.58
2016-17Utah ValleyWAC341717.500-1.22-2.44
2017-18Utah ValleyWAC342311.6765.08-1.76
2018-19Utah ValleyWAC352510.7143.00-2.30
2019-20Brigham YoungWCC32248.75016.936.451418
2020-21Brigham YoungWCC27207.74115.197.232323NCAA Tournament
2021-22Brigham YoungWCC352411.68610.055.2312
2022-23Brigham YoungWCC341915.5599.435.40
2023-24Brigham YoungBig 12342311.67619.337.8612NCAA Tournament
2024-25KentuckySEC362412.66721.2614.0423412NCAA Tournament
2025-26KentuckySEC1596.60020.486.9599
CareerOverall346220126.63610.003.92
Utah ValleyMen's1337756.579-0.68-2.52
Brigham YoungMen's16211052.67914.196.44
KentuckyMen's513318.64720.8710.49
 

coalBucket

Senior
Sep 27, 2008
360
672
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100%. This is all just who he is. It’s been said a million times a million different ways. We didn’t like the hire to begin with cause we all knew it. We rallied to support our own. It’s not working out. Move on.
 

*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
42,831
76,105
113

Coaching Record​


SeasonSchoolConfGWLW-L%SRSSOSAP PreAP HighAP FinalNotesAdjusted
2015-16Utah ValleyWAC301218.400-9.58-3.58
2016-17Utah ValleyWAC341717.500-1.22-2.44
2017-18Utah ValleyWAC342311.6765.08-1.76
2018-19Utah ValleyWAC352510.7143.00-2.30
2019-20Brigham YoungWCC32248.75016.936.451418
2020-21Brigham YoungWCC27207.74115.197.232323NCAA Tournament
2021-22Brigham YoungWCC352411.68610.055.2312
2022-23Brigham YoungWCC341915.5599.435.40
2023-24Brigham YoungBig 12342311.67619.337.8612NCAA Tournament
2024-25KentuckySEC362412.66721.2614.0423412NCAA Tournament
2025-26KentuckySEC1596.60020.486.9599
CareerOverall346220126.63610.003.92
Utah ValleyMen's1337756.579-0.68-2.52
Brigham YoungMen's16211052.67914.196.44
KentuckyMen's513318.64720.8710.49
19-15 in the WCC, my word.
 
Jul 30, 2024
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Soooooo, Can we all agree that being a former player has zero impact on coaching at UK or anywhere for that matter?
Correct. And being from the state of Kentucky doesn’t give you extra attribute points for MyCareer either. Maybe this experience is good for BBN. Myths busted, now we can all stop with the sentimental crap that means nothing. Just win some ******* games!
 

WeWant9_rivals

Heisman
Dec 18, 2013
6,760
17,857
113
It wasn’t even his overall record that gave me concern. It was the fact he never won a NCAAT game. He also coached 8 years in the WAC and WCC and never won the regular season or conference tournament. His biggest thing was beating KU on the road.

Maybe in a perfect world he spends 5 more years coaching BYU in the B12 and gets some experience at the P5 level, but we don’t live in a perfect world.
 

*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
42,831
76,105
113
It wasn’t even his overall record that gave me concern. It was the fact he never won a NCAAT game. He also coached 8 years in the WAC and WCC and never won the regular season or conference tournament. His biggest thing was beating KU on the road.

Maybe in a perfect world he spends 5 more years coaching BYU in the B12 and gets some experience at the P5 level, but we don’t live in a perfect world.
He could have at least won the Big 12 or something before being considered. Sorry but no tourney wins, averaging about 13 losses a year, and never winning a conference tourney or regular season isn’t a resume for Kentucky head coach. Mitch Barnhart is a freaking fool and is a guy who seem to have fallen upwards in his career.
 

FilsonCat

All-Conference
Apr 5, 2007
3,084
3,507
113
I wanted to give Pope the benefit of the doubt. I was dead wrong on this hire. This season is setting up to be one of the most disappointing that I can remember, considering what we thought they'd be pre-season. It is another team turmoil scenario.
 
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akaukswoosh

Hall of Famer
Jan 14, 2006
79,691
122,213
93
Another good one from the blowhards was the narrative we were told that Pope could recruit more talented players than he did at BYU because of the religious standards. More unfounded nonsense. Kentucky’s recruiting has taken a nosedive, and BYU has the No. 1 player in the nation with AJ Dybantsa.
Seth Meyers Lol GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
 
Jul 30, 2024
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That’s actually kinda psychotic to offer him the UK job. I mean legit crazy. Nate Oats had a much better resume at Buffalo before being offered the Alabama job AKA even SEC schools with no tradition or emphasis on basketball went after better coaches. Really shameful by Barnhart tbh
I hate it. It’s sad that one of our own has to be the fall guy instead of Mitch who put him there.
 
Jul 30, 2024
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Look at Pat Kelsey’s record compared to Popes. SMH Idk why Barnhart took such a big chance like he did with Pope.
Kelsey was already hired when we were job searching. I’m hoping that more coaches want to follow Pope than they did Cal. Next job search could be an even worse disaster…who knows? But I’m desperate to win again.
 

MegaBlue05

Heisman
Mar 8, 2014
10,279
19,563
66
Soooooo, Can we all agree that being a former player has zero impact on coaching at UK or anywhere for that matter?
I have always been firmly against it.

Because if it doesn’t work out, the fanbase eats one of their own to where a once beloved player becomes a pariah and isn’t welcomed back to the place they once called home. It’s kinda sad.
 

preston-lemasterpiece

All-Conference
Apr 15, 2025
1,057
1,931
111
Kelsey was already hired when we were job searching. I’m hoping that more coaches want to follow Pope than they did Cal. Next job search could be an even worse disaster…who knows? But I’m desperate to win again.
they absolutely will.
we have to believe that.
don't let the Barnharts of the world redefine this program
 

preston-lemasterpiece

All-Conference
Apr 15, 2025
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I have always been firmly against it.

Because if it doesn’t work out, the fanbase eats one of their own to where a once beloved player becomes a pariah and isn’t welcomed back to the place they once called home. It’s kinda sad.
agreed
but i do think there is a way back into everyone's good graces. after he leaves and is gone for a few years, we'd welcome him back.
people say this fanbase is crazy but we'll always let you back in the family. people really value titles here and his place is forever enshrined because of his role on 96.
 
Jul 30, 2024
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With the tradition, history, and unparalleled fan support, why would the university have to pay above market rate?
You leveraged the positive points. Could you be open-minded if I answered this question literally and gave you a big picture answer that isn’t tinted with blue glasses?
 

Argonaut

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With the tradition, history, and unparalleled fan support, why would the university have to pay above market rate?
Because that’s what we did with Calipari? UK has shown they’re willing to spend big on NIL. But we still need to entice a guy to come here. If we have to pull an LSU throwing absurd amounts of money on Lane Kiffin level of spending, so be it. We’re extremely desperate for success.
 
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With the tradition, history, and unparalleled fan support, why would the university have to pay above market rate?
- Our tradition is a plus to fans. The resources that follow from that tradition is what is attractive for coaches but the tradition itself may not be. When a coach walks into a practice facility and can sell a program to recruits with 8 national championships, it’s a plus. However, our tradition isn’t the end-all be-all. For fans, we look at the totality of everything from 1903 to today — most of the kids in the high school circuit today have vague memories of Kentucky being among the elite class of programs. It’s a sad but honest truth — tradition matters less than brand relevance in the current era. We are down.

- Our history, continuing the thought of the last point, is alluring for sure. But coaches know they are being compared against it. We can correctly say that some coaches are going to embrace that history and want all the smoke. Truthfully, being compared to history is soul-crushingly difficult and that’s why it may be easier to build that history yourself like Oats is at Alabama, so that your greatest accomplishments are not being held against, say the 2010-2015 run by Calipari, the 1993-1997 run by Pitino, the 1975-1978 run by Hall, the 1948-1954 run by Rupp.

- Our fan support is a complex matter. Yes, we will pay as much as anyone because of our passion. We will be loud and cheer, filling massive arenas bringing with us a “home environment” almost anywhere in the country. We are also very quick to vocalize our frustrations in a very severe manner. We have garnered just as much of a negative outside perception as we have a positive one within our bubble. I’m sure me even acknowledging this will catch me hell again, because most fans want this to be as simple as fan base “good” or fan base “bad” but it’s actually both to such an extreme level that it can be very unattractive.

- One of the most important things for coaches is, regardless of how good they are, stability. We offer resources that surpass most every school, but the gap has tightened significantly. As fans, we have a certain expectation of winning based on our history that won’t allow for the bar to be lowered and rightfully so. From the standpoint of coaches though, in a college basketball world that is now more optimized than ever, with deep parity of talent, and higher variability due to increased demand to win now thanks to portal — this is all a recipe for coaches to have more down years than would have been expected in say the late 80s or early 90s where you could somewhat expect the “haves” to beat up regularly on the “have-nots.” Coaches are aware this job, compared to any other (even versus other bluebloods), has no room for slack to it. There is no job security.

In short, we can debate whether or not it is the best job in the country. It is, without question, the most demanding job in the country. You don’t have to be here to win anymore and any coach who comes here is assuming a massive risk. For a coach to take a calculated risk, especially with our recent history, massive pay will be required.
 
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Woodrow24

Heisman
Dec 21, 2015
5,857
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Kelsey was already hired when we were job searching. I’m hoping that more coaches want to follow Pope than they did Cal. Next job search could be an even worse disaster…who knows? But I’m desperate to win again.
I know he was. I’m just saying that’s bad that little brother hired someone with a better resume. I just don’t trust Barnhart to make the next hire.
 

TippyTap

Freshman
Jan 5, 2026
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Correct. And being from the state of Kentucky doesn’t give you extra attribute points for MyCareer either. Maybe this experience is good for BBN. Myths busted, now we can all stop with the sentimental crap that means nothing. Just win some ******* games!
I'm over the whole getting players from Kentucky thing also. In the NIL era you need to be able to bench or cut players that aren't helping you win, no strings attached or hard feelings.
 

KyLegacyBBN

All-Conference
Jan 12, 2005
10,121
3,306
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Blame Mitch. From what I remember he only asked two other coaches before settling .
 

UKWildcats1987

Heisman
Sep 9, 2021
18,761
31,918
113
Yet people on here thought winning a natty title here as a player was a qualified resume. Those are the same fans that think we need a team full of KY boys to win it all. So what do you expect
 
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