Porter Moser's LUC

[GatoLouco]

Loyola plays a double header this weekend in beautiful Des Moines.

Drake is 10-1 in the MVC. LUC is 12-1.

Saturday - 12PM EST/11AM CST - ESPN2
Sunday - 3PM EST/2PM CST - ESPN2

LUC is ranked. Drake is, for several analysts, higher than LUC in their power rankings.

Most of us are intrigued by Moser.

I'll be watching.

 

[Jonny2TheP]

Loyola plays a double header this weekend in beautiful Des Moines.

Drake is 10-1 in the MVC. LUC is 12-1.

Saturday - 12PM EST/11AM CST
Sunday - 3PM EST/2PM CST

LUC is ranked. Drake is, for several analysts, higher than LUC in their power rankings.

Most of us are intrigued by Moser.

I'll be watching.

Should be two good games- both are good teams. Drake was undefeated until they lost the second game of a double header against Valpo last weekend.

I live about a mile and a half from the Drake campus and try to get to one game a year as they have a cool little stadium that's fun to go to. The year that Loyola went to the Final Four, that happened to be the one game I went to that year (Loyola/Drake). Drake played them tough and I think the game was tied with about eight minutes left, but Loyola went on a huge run from that point and I think won by over 20. They were a fantastic team that year.

 

[blockm2]

LUC is ranked. Drake is, for several analysts, higher than LUC in their power rankings.

KenPom calls Loyola #15 nationally and Drake #57, mostly because Loyola has played a tougher schedule and has had a lot of blowout wins whereas Drake has had quite a few close victories.

 

[Catreporter]

If Drake still had Liam Robbins they would probably be quite a team. Losing to lowly Valpo after almost losing to them by the night before was a bit of an eye opener regarding their 18-0 start. Moser has done a heckuva job at Loyola and this team is legit threat to win some games in the NCAA tournament from what I've seen. I have a feeling he is very happy in the more low pressure environment that he currently occupies.

 

[Sec_112]

Loyola plays a double header this weekend in beautiful Des Moines.

Saturday - 12PM EST/11AM CST
Sunday - 3PM EST/2PM CST

Great call! Good picks to click this weekend on ESPN2.

Sister Jean is also being trotted out for College GameDay Saturday.

 

[GatoLouco]

Edited to include the games are on ESPN2

Is this what it feels to be Styre? It’s exhilarating

 

[loyolacat]

#1 in the nation in defensive scoring.....this is where Porter hangs his hat....This team is not as talented as the Final Four team and our just now rounding in to shape....The Valley is a developmental league,,,meaning you have to have good coaches.....lots of respect for the Drake coach as well......The Ramblers were tied with WIsconsin at WIsconsin with 16 to go in the 2nd half......screwed up 4 straight high pick and rolls ...went down 12 and then outscored them the rest of the way.....You do not find many teams in the Valley with two competent bigs... I think NU would give LU some issues with their height....recently LU has been using the 5 out offense that NU has been using . but today I think you will see them work everything through Krutwig.....but as to comments about Moser , he is the real deal as a coach.....99% of the time he will hold the other teams leading scorer under their average by a considerable amount. The other thing they do offensively is they do not take bad shots. any way I will be too nervous to watch..

 

[GatoLouco]

It’s such a contrast to see a team that knows so much better when to take a quick shot and when to take it deep in the shot clock.

Watched Wright State play Baldwin’s UWM. Same story, even if they did not play great.

Moser, Nagy and USU’s Craig Smith are probably my favorite mid major coaches. But that’s heavily skewed by teams for one reason or another I check in to see playing.

 

[ParisCat_rivals]

Loyola up 20+ over 19-1 Drake with 4 minutes to go. Wow. Bring Moser to Evanston.

 

[NUChicago]

It’s such a contrast to see a team that knows so much better when to take a quick shot and when to take it deep in the shot clock.

Watched Wright State play Baldwin’s UWM. Same story, even if they did not play great.

Moser, Nagy and USU’s Craig Smith are probably my favorite mid major coaches. But that’s heavily skewed by teams for one reason or another I check in to see playing.

They actually have an identity on offense, not relying on perimeter shooting. Congratulations to Loyola.

 

[Catreporter]

19-1 Drake proved to be somewhat of a mirage after their poor showing at Valpo last weekend. They were lucky to win one in overtime and then got blown out by a 7-13 team that lost by 20 at DePaul and has suffered multiple blowout defeats. Moser has done a great job reviving Loyola hoops but it's a different level than the Big Ten. If Drake still had the big guy who transferred to Minnesota, they would have been a great test for the NCAA bound Ramblers.

 

[wildcatpn]

19-1 Drake proved to be somewhat of a mirage after their poor showing at Valpo last weekend. They were lucky to win one in overtime and then got blown out by a 7-13 team that lost by 20 at DePaul and has suffered multiple blowout defeats. Moser has done a great job reviving Loyola hoops but it's a different level than the Big Ten. If Drake still had the big guy who transferred to Minnesota, they would have been a great test for the NCAA bound Ramblers.

Talent level of the conferences aside, after watching Loyola it's easy to see they play with discipline, they don't take bad shots, they have an identity and they play with moxie. All of which are sorely missing from NU.

 

[loyolacat]

Discipline is the key....He has defensive and offensive rules....I used to get upset when he first came to LU....if you made a mistake he yanked you on the spot......but then I noticed. he would be next to the guy that got yanked on the bench talking and teaching and not even watching the game....His first few years he did not have a center ,,,had a guy 6'4 playing center, then 6'6....but when he got Krutwig the offense matched the defense....and he is a really genuine nice guy......most of his bball theory comes from Rick Majerus.. The best offensive player we have had, Marquise Kennedy, does not start because he has not learned to play system defense yet, even though he has great individual defensive skills......for an old time LU alumni it has been a fun ride....actually Chris Collins reminds me of him. I just dont think NU has had enough good ball handlers......sooo many tweeners on the team, not quite big guys and not quite guards.....I think they offensively planned poorly for their roster. I am hoping Coach Moser does not leave...but it seems everyone wants to test themselves in deeper waters and I would not blame him.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

Didn’t Moser get fired by ISU?

 

[Catreporter]

Didn’t Moser get fired by ISU?

Yup, very stupid move by them and they are still paying for it.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

Yup, very stupid move by them and they are still paying for it.

What? You don’t like Dan Muller?

 

[Secho99]

Loyola plays a double header this weekend in beautiful Des Moines.

Drake is 10-1 in the MVC. LUC is 12-1.

Saturday - 12PM EST/11AM CST - ESPN2
Sunday - 3PM EST/2PM CST - ESPN2

LUC is ranked. Drake is, for several analysts, higher than LUC in their power rankings.

Most of us are intrigued by Moser.

I'll be watching.

Whether he’s actually a potential future coach for us or not, I found myself waking up today looking forward to watching the Loyola-Drake game more than our game. Ramblers put on a clinic on both ends in the 2nd half today.

Not sure if it’s been mentioned here but Moser’s first game as a D1 head coach was against NU when he coached Little Rock. They beat us by 10 at W-R. I remember that game was the back half of a doubleheader of sorts with the football game vs Illinois. Our football team scored 61 that day, the hoops team scored 43.

 

[NUChicago]

Whether he’s actually a potential future coach for us or not, I found myself waking up today looking forward to watching the Loyola-Drake game more than our game. Ramblers put on a clinic on both ends in the 2nd half today.

Not sure if it’s been mentioned here but Moser’s first game as a D1 head coach was against NU when he coached Little Rock. They beat us by 10 at W-R. I remember that game was the back half of a doubleheader of sorts with the football game vs Illinois. Our football team scored 61 that day, the hoops team scored 43.

I watched more of Loyola than NU today. Sad but true.

 

[NJCat]

I watched more of Loyola than NU today. Sad but true.

Then you had a better day than the typical NU fan.

 

[NUChicago]

Then you had a better day than the typical NU fan.

It is frustrating to see this week after week. We have not won a game since Dec 26th. I need to rethink my tickets next year. I never resell to opposing fans and don't have the energy to commit time and $ to this situation.

 

[Sec_112]

Let's say Loyola gets to the second round of the tournament in a few weeks. Moser's name will be ALL over the place for a new job.

Let's assume NU wants a shot at Moser. The question running through my head is how does NU "run the play" so Moser remains a viable option.

I'm also assuming NU has no AD or only a recently-hired AD, and dumping CC is not realistic.

The best scenario I can come up with is Morty talks to Pat Ryan. Ryan sends word to Moser's agent to stay at Loyola, simply give NU another year, and Moser might be able to stay in the Chicago area.

It would be tricky. But if NU even wants a crack at Moser, I think they need to start laying the groundwork now.

 

[NJCat]

Let's say Loyola gets to the second round of the tournament in a few weeks. Moser's name will be ALL over the place for a new job.

Let's assume NU wants a shot at Moser. The question running through my head is how does NU "run the play" so Moser remains a viable option.

I'm also assuming NU has no AD or only a recently-hired AD, and dumping CC is not realistic.

The best scenario I can come up with is Morty talks to Pat Ryan. Ryan sends word to Moser's agent to stay at Loyola, simply give NU another year, and Moser might be able to stay in the Chicago area.

It would be tricky. But if NU even wants a crack at Moser, I think they need to start laying the groundwork now.

If Morty and Ryan were inclined to do this, why wouldn't they just sack Collins now and hire Moser? Would be risky/silly to wait a year.

 

[NUChicago]

If Morty and Ryan were inclined to do this, why wouldn't they just sack Collins now and hire Moser? Would be risky/silly to wait a year.

Understand where you are coming from, but that might impact the AD search. The Fitz situation was a no-brainer, but this is an opportunity for the new AD to make their mark.

 

[NJCat]

Understand where you are coming from, but that might impact the AD search. The Fitz situation was a no-brainer, but this is an opportunity for the new AD to make their mark.

Given the amount of money involved in hiring a B1G MBB coach, the President and the Trustees are equally involved in hiring as the AD, so if Morty and Ryan are sold on Moser it would take a very brave AD to go in another direction.......

 

[Sec_112]

If Morty and Ryan were inclined to do this, why wouldn't they just sack Collins now and hire Moser? Would be risky/silly to wait a year.

You HAVE to allow the AD to have strong input into the hire.

Also, let's not get crazy. This isn't Bill Self or Calipari who we're talking about. Moser isn't a guarantee for much of anything. So I think hiring without an AD input is asking for NU's reputation as an athletics organization to take a dive.

 

[NUChicago]

You HAVE to allow the AD to have strong input into the hire.

Also, let's not get crazy. This isn't Bill Self or Calipari who we're talking about. Moser isn't a guarantee for much of anything. So I think hiring without an AD input is asking for NU's reputation as an athletics organization to take a dive.

Could you imagine Bill Self.....kidding

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

Let's say Loyola gets to the second round of the tournament in a few weeks. Moser's name will be ALL over the place for a new job.

Let's assume NU wants a shot at Moser. The question running through my head is how does NU "run the play" so Moser remains a viable option.

I'm also assuming NU has no AD or only a recently-hired AD, and dumping CC is not realistic.

The best scenario I can come up with is Morty talks to Pat Ryan. Ryan sends word to Moser's agent to stay at Loyola, simply give NU another year, and Moser might be able to stay in the Chicago area.

It would be tricky. But if NU even wants a crack at Moser, I think they need to start laying the groundwork now.

Nobody will do anything more than lay out feelers if in fact either of the parties are interested. NU is not a coveted job in Basketball. It just isn’t. If Moser wins a few tourney games, he will likely have better basketball options than NU. He turned down STJ and they clearly have a better history, more fertile recruiting grounds, and no admission restrictions. Maybe he would want to stay in Chicago for family reasons. Who knows, but I do know there would be no guarantee made that he would be hired in one year. If there was, they would hire him right now.

 

[NUChicago]

Nobody will do anything more than lay out feelers if in fact either of the parties are interested. NU is not a coveted job in Basketball. It just isn’t. If Moser wins a few tourney games, he will likely have better basketball options than NU. He turned down STJ and they clearly have a better history, more fertile recruiting grounds, and no admission restrictions. Maybe he would want to stay in Chicago for family reasons. Who knows, but I do know there would be no guarantee made that he would be hired in one year. If there was, they would hire him right now.

Agree, Moser will have better options if he continues winning. We need a program builder, and ten game losing streaks are not a sign of a program being built. It is what it is, so I am not anticipating a change this year. I will say that the incoming recruiting class excuse no longer holds water based on player development.

 

[willycat]

Nobody will do anything more than lay out feelers if in fact either of the parties are interested. NU is not a coveted job in Basketball. It just isn’t. If Moser wins a few tourney games, he will likely have better basketball options than NU. He turned down STJ and they clearly have a better history, more fertile recruiting grounds, and no admission restrictions. Maybe he would want to stay in Chicago for family reasons. Who knows, but I do know there would be no guarantee made that he would be hired in one year. If there was, they would hire him right now.

Then their is who they have and will play. Lewis, Chicago St., UIC, St. Francis, Ill. St.. Bradley, Ind. St., Valpo, North Texas, Missouri St. and Evansville. One Big Ten opponent, Wisky. = a 14 point loss and a loss to Richmond as well. Yes they beat Drake yesterday but they played without their best player. While I still support Collins, but if a change is made I would think they would go after more successful and higher profile coach. After all he did get fired by Ill.St., right?

 

[Catreporter]

I didn't realize Drake lost their leading scorer for the season (15 a game) with a broken foot prior to last weekend's pratfall at Valpo and yesterday's blowout loss. That puts a little different light on things especially with the rest of the MVC being so weak this year . It will be interesting to see what Loyola does in the postseason, but no, we're not going to dump Collins for him this year. We still don't have an Athletic Director and that's a big contract to eat!

 

[GatoLouco]

Could you imagine Bill Self.....kidding

Why not? Beilein was plenty mentioned

 

[GatoLouco]

Agree, Moser will have better options if he continues winning. We need a program builder, and ten game losing streaks are not a sign of a program being built. It is what it is, so I am not anticipating a change this year. I will say that the incoming recruiting class excuse no longer holds water based on player development.

I’d be very surprised if he does not already have better alternatives that we do not know about.

The only way he considers NU is if keeping the family in Chicago is that important to him.

 

[GatoLouco]

Then their is who they have and will play. Lewis, Chicago St., UIC, St. Francis, Ill. St.. Bradley, Ind. St., Valpo, North Texas, Missouri St. and Evansville. One Big Ten opponent, Wisky. = a 14 point loss and a loss to Richmond as well. Yes they beat Drake yesterday but they played without their best player. While I still support Collins, but if a change is made I would think they would go after more successful and higher profile coach. After all he did get fired by Ill.St., right?

In an NBA style playoff, NU vs LUC. Who would win?

 

[Cat Fan in Buckeye Land]

Moser and Baldwin seem to be the popular names if a change were to be made, and on paper, they check a lot of boxes. Moser has had success, knows the area, his teams are disciplined at both ends of the floor. Baldwin has now been a head coach, knows how NU operates, brought more to the program as an assistant than most people realize (not mentioning PBJ, because that would be most likely for 1 year).

just wondering about some other potential candidates that maybe don’t get mentioned? I think it should be someone with head coaching experience, because this is a tough place to learn on the job how to be a head coach.

 

[GatoLouco]

Scott Nagy
Matt McMahon
Craig Smith
Rick Byrd (retired)
Leon Rice
Darian DeVries

All plausible names to dig deeper into as cultural issues are so rampant at NU

 

[willycat]

Scott Nagy
Matt McMahon
Craig Smith
Rick Byrd (retired)
Leon Rice
Darian DeVries

All plausible names to dig deeper into as cultural issues are so rampant at NU

What's Joey Mayer up to these days?

 

[GatoLouco]

19-1 Drake proved to be somewhat of a mirage after their poor showing at Valpo last weekend. They were lucky to win one in overtime and then got blown out by a 7-13 team that lost by 20 at DePaul and has suffered multiple blowout defeats. Moser has done a great job reviving Loyola hoops but it's a different level than the Big Ten. If Drake still had the big guy who transferred to Minnesota, they would have been a great test for the NCAA bound Ramblers.

I know you somehow recanted this. But just like that, they proved they’re to be taken seriously. They’re a well coached team.

Ugly ugly win. Old fashioned slug fest.

 

[willycat]

I know you somehow recanted this. But just like that, they proved they’re to be taken seriously. They’re a well coached team.

Ugly ugly win. Old fashioned slug fest.

Guess it's time to look for another small conference HC.

 

[GatoLouco]

Guess it's time to look for another small conference HC.

You’re really grasping at straws in your defense of CC

 

[Catreporter]

I know you somehow recanted this. But just like that, they proved they’re to be taken seriously. They’re a well coached team.

Ugly ugly win. Old fashioned slug fest.

Loyola had a rare off game and Drake had a nice comeback, but I watched the game and without their top gun, the Bulldogs will struggle down the stretch and I doubt they make the NCAA as an at-large.