Possible Grad Transfer
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Ok, Homer. Remember, those guys aren't consequential. It is a fair expectation.
Another negative spin. Right on cue.
Look, I’m not saying this kid would come in and be a savior, just that we have reportedly already reached out. And we need players.
And I'm just saying that after forty threads of people spinning the departures of RI and Falzon as inconsequential and that they wouldn't contribute and that minutes are better given to the younger players - then fine - whoever they bring will either be the ninth man down the bench or fantastic. Anything else, means all that other crap was BS.
#accountability #fakenews
There’s absolutely nothing fake about the news. You just like to try to cause problems.
No spin necessary. If you don’t know that RI was never going to make a difference on the floor. And if you don’t know that AF wasn’t going to beat out Nance or Kopp or Beran or Jones next year. Then you don’t know enough about the game and the direction of the program to be criticizing those who know more than you. Either that, or you just get perverse jollies in being a dick on an internet message board.
Or maybe it’s both.
GOUNUII
Ok, guess I am dense. Explain to me, if RI and AF were dispensable - no value. And if Joe Transfer brings less to the table, then why bring in Joe Transfer. Why not keep AF and or RI?
If you say that AF and RI wanted to leave, fair, but that failure is on CCC. He has now had to replace a roster spot with an inferior player.
If you say it doesn't matter who sits on the bench because the minutes are going to develop the young guys, why would Joe Transfer even come?
Unless Joe Transfer is better than AF or RI, then it is a net loss and that reflects poorly on CCC. But quite frankly, unless they plan to be competitive next year, then bringing in any player of quality on a one year deal seems curious - as the heavy minutes are going to the youth to develop, right?
Yes, they need players. I still don't understand why CCC wasn't able to retain the players he brought in. I am hearing lots of spins. Nothing from the school. So, losing 33% of the potential returning cast is disconcerting. Especially when we haven't filled the existing open scholarships.
Btw, you tout Nance, Kopp, Beran and Jones. That they will be better than AF or RI. But RI was a highly regarded recruit. So was AF. Nance didn't look any better than RI or AF last year. Kopp, well, wasn't a world beater - no Shurna, Coble comparisons. So it would be great if Kopp and Nance improve, it would be great if Beran and Jones are immediate impact players. But you don't know that.
Go Lehigh (the other school I root for)! Pat Andree was an important contributor on their very good team this year. But Lehigh did not win the Patriot League, and Andree was not player of the year. Those honors went to Colgate and RI.
He was a solid shooter on an excellent shooting team. But would he suffer the NU shooter's curse?
He was a solid shooter on an excellent shooting team. But would he suffer the NU shooter's curse?
You ask a lot of random questions and make a lot of erroneous assumptions. The players made the choices. Not CCC. Players who didn't like their roles going forward. And I never said certain players were better than others, either in the past or looking forward. No mention of immediate impact players next year. I did mention the direction of the program. It dictates a lot.
Going the transfer route is a no lose situation. CCC needs practice and insurance bodies. The ones he had decided to look for a better deal elsewhere, most with degrees in hand among those who left recently. The ones he gets may even include a player or two that can help them win games. No risk ... nothing to lose ... a chance to gain something.
I have been critical of CCC's recruiting when it is warranted. The biggest problem has been missing on too many guards since B-Mac. Lathon was a dagger when the situation was already on thin ice at best.
My point is that you are loose and fast with your lips in your efforts to one up people on this board. No spinning was necessary to know that folks like RI and AF turned out not to be the answer, if only because of the time they spent on the DL. Windows of opportunities open and close all the time. Time to look at opening some new windows.
Gotta get 2 impact guards in the 2020 class. More in 2021.
GOUNUII
It’s... interesting that the Patriot League Player of the Year wasn’t good enough to play for us but we’re going after another player from the Patriot League for a transfer.
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How many of you predicted that Rap would be the player of the year in his league after TWO years on the shelf? Anyone?
Agree about the guards. One simple question: how do you known CCC did not either encourage RI, AF and JA to move or, for the latter, not offer a fifth year? I don’t know either way but you speak like you do. Please share your authority.
How many of you watched him practice at all over the past years when he could? How many of you recruited him in the first place and why?
Oh, and how many of you were extremely excited when he committed? Why?
He hardly practiced at all. I believe, He was injured early in practices his first season, and I think he had his second surgery after being in only a couple of games his second season. Don't know what you mean by the second question, and had no idea who he was when he committed, but trust that the coaching staff recruits good players...
I’ll dig tomorrow but I seem to recall a lot of belief in RI as the next big thing. Stay tuned.
And I’ll ask the same to you: do you know how many practices that he participated or are you ***-uming?
Well, he couldn't have participated in many in his first year, since he injured the shoulder almost immediately...He probably participated in all the preseason practices before he reinjured it in year 2, but he participated in few practices during the season, because he was already hurt. And he looked to be badly injured in the few games he did play...
Ok, you are assuming. So, the original post spoke to those that saw practices and also chose to recruit him. You cannot speak to that. You are simply assuming in such a fashion to support your argument. Not persuasive.
What argument am I even making? All I was asking is if anyone predicted he would be Patriot league POY after missing two full seasons due to injury. Did you predict it? If we managed to keep him and he was not productive for our team, would you not be the first to complain about it?
As Reagan said, we need to "trust, but verify".
The evidence shows trust isn't necessarily warranted.
On the one hand, I could put Mike and Bob on ignore. Because they write the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
On the other hand, then there’d be nothing to read...
I hope Andree comes to NU and I expect (hope) he’d be a bench player (because I hope Jones and Beran and Nance are all better than him).
On the other hand, then there’d be nothing to read...
I hope Andree comes to NU and I expect (hope) he’d be a bench player (because I hope Jones and Beran and Nance are all better than him).
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Because the guy who averaged 10 and 3 over seven games for George Mason is a star?
Nobody is saying these transfers are likely impact guys. Learned that lesson after Taylor. We are saying they would likely play important roles this year. As role players.
No need to dig. Of course we all thought he was the next big thing. If you don't think a well-regarded local recruit is the next big thing, then why the hell even be a fan? Sometimes we are right, and sometimes we are wrong.
The eternal question, though: How do we manage to be right a little more often?
He had a foot injury this season. His scoring average climbed each year leading into this one. He's a very good shooter and rebounder.
...and apparently injured. Foot problems are a very big deal for basketball players.
Yep, "foot injury" is synonymous with "injured." Obviously, if he's damaged goods, you don't take him. I doubt that's the case.
Intent on arguing over anything this morning?
While I think our Frosh and Sophs (coupled with Gaines and Turner)will be pretty good and be the foundation of the team, we do need bodies and upperclass leadership that these guys can still offer
You are not replacing them with guys you are stuck with for 4 years so they are more healthy placeholders (as AF would likely have been). RI left a year ago and was replaced with a Frosh either Nance or Kopp) Falzon we have seen plenty of. If he is hitting his shot he is pretty good but if not which is more often than not, not much help. And it was likely his choice to make the the move. It is likely whoever we bring in will be at the same level or better for (than the injury reduced AF)
AF and RI and even Ash and BB made decisions on what was best for them. That NU was no longer that option is not the players fault nor NU and CCC's. Kopp was looking pretty good by the end of the year and better than either AF or RI for us. Nance was better for us than RI was. RI was injured the entire time he was here and could not even be a practice body..