Post Game Standout

[bkimrey2]

I know we got beat, we aren't a good team etc...

Jaland Lowe at the post game press conference says it all. Not visibly upset, seems cheerful and we'll get em next time. Complete opposite of what we've seen in years past. We'd have players crying or mad as hell not barely speaking at a press conference after a loss.

I liked the fire in chandlers eyes and I think he feels the loss / performance more.

This whole NIL thing killed UK culture and will to win. We have a group of players who don't give a **** about the jersey, the heritage, and understand the work their predecessors had to put in to earn it.

I understand why it's easy for tenured fans and players to look at this team like wtf after busting their tail to earn a spot in the nba or to be a proud ticket holder.

Sad day for us and more ahead.

 

[Tri-Countycat]

Performance incentives gotta go into NIL. These college kids have it better than the pros. Pros can at least get fines or fired.

 

[IL_Wildcat]

Performance incentives gotta go into NIL. These college kids have it better than the pros. Pros can at least get fines or fired.

I agree. If they're getting paid like pros, they need to know there are consequences for just not getting the job done. And those could be incentives, too.

I don't think you could fine them or cut their pay for missing shots, but issues of effort and not listening to coaches could definitely be a legitimate reason

 

[NociHTTP]

Chandler was really pissed, I felt his pain. Lowe has other priorities.

 

[fisherscatfan]

Or Pope could just do a better job evaluating and landing players.

 

[fisherscatfan]

Chandler was really pissed, I felt his pain. Lowe has other priorities.

Agree. I really think Chandler is one of the few who gives a crap.

 

[bkimrey2]

I agree. If they're getting paid like pros, they need to know there are consequences for just not getting the job done. And those could be incentives, too.

I don't think you could fine them or cut their pay for missing shots, but issues of effort and not listening to coaches could definitely be a legitimate reason

I think NIL should all be contingent on post season performance.

Cap the base salary across the league or set a max and then include post season incentives.

It's sickening we're all talking about it right now because I know were all the blue bloods and having to discuss people

 

[Hush4872]

It's difficult to blame NIL when other teams arent having these issues with it. It's the job of the coaching staff to motivate them and they've failed to do so.

 

[Phil_The_Music2]

Something about Lowe seems weird to me. Maybe he's just a positive guy and that's fine. But it almost comes off as he just doesn't give a **** about anything. I don't know.

 

[bkimrey2]

It's difficult to blame NIL when other teams arent having these issues with it. It's the job of the coaching staff to motivate them and they've failed to do so.

I agree Hush, I think my hang up on the "nil" part is just the rumors of what our budget was and what we spent.

You are right in the fact of motivation. But even with that, I still think you could assemble a team in a Lexington men's church league that would shoot and play better than we are. It's wild.

 

[bkimrey2]

Something about Lowe seems weird to me. Maybe he's just a positive guy and that's fine. But it almost comes off as he just doesn't give a **** about anything. I don't know.

100%. Just imagine the reactions if we invited the whole team to the presser tonight. Half wouldn't give a **** and give off the same vibe.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

UK needs to do what other programs do to counter the already getting paid stuff. boosters at other schools still hand them money under the table for playing well. I know it for a fact, my husband has boosters of several schools in his family or his cousins are married into a family of boosters etc. How do I know we dont do it? Because those guys would be playing harder for more money if you dangled extra money every time they play hard

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

I know we got beat, we aren't a good team etc...

Jaland Lowe at the post game press conference says it all. Not visibly upset, seems cheerful and we'll get em next time. Complete opposite of what we've seen in years past. We'd have players crying or mad as hell not barely speaking at a press conference after a loss.

I liked the fire in chandlers eyes and I think he feels the loss / performance more.

This whole NIL thing killed UK culture and will to win. We have a group of players who don't give a **** about the jersey, the heritage, and understand the work their predecessors had to put in to earn it.

I understand why it's easy for tenured fans and players to look at this team like wtf after busting their tail to earn a spot in the nba or to be a proud ticket holder.

Sad day for us and more ahead.

Man I got banned for calling them the P word but that’s exactly what Lowe is. Team is better without him. Let him get his money and get the hell on next year. He’s not UK level. He’s bad. Say he’s hurt? Ok he’s still bad.

 

[bkimrey2]

UK needs to do what other programs do to counter the already getting paid stuff. boosters at other schools still hand them money under the table for playing well. I know it for a fact, my husband has boosters of several schools in his family or his cousins are married into a family of boosters etc. How do I know we dont do it? Because those guys would be playing harder for more money if you dangled extra money every time they play hard

That's so unfortunate. What a shame in the day and age our youth is being raised in...

A bonus on top of everything else?

I'd rather Kentucky become a D3 Basketball school and watch kids play for the love of the game at this point.

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

Agree. I really think Chandler is one of the few who gives a crap.

1 Jasper

2 chandler

3 Hawthorne

4Noah

5A Moreno 5B Potter

Let’s roll baby

 

[bkimrey2]

1 Jasper

2 chandler

3 Hawthorne

4Noah

5A Moreno 5B Potter

Let’s roll baby

Literally

 

[Eastkybball]

I’ve said many times this team has no heart. There are 2 players that really embrace that Kentucky uniform and it’s Chandler and Moreno.
Noah has settled with making it to Kentucky but doesn’t understand he has to put in the work. Pisses me off he wouldn’t even make a shot attempt after hearing all damn summer he’s the best shooter they’d ever seen.
Pope comparing this team to 96 what an idiot. The hype and excitement for the season I had man I’m an idiot. F it all, these players, Pope, the ones who still have hope lol, and what about these damn clown assistants. Mark Fox lol? Brooks suppose to be a recruiting machine? Fueger Booming on social media get out and bust your butt recruiting. Horrible roster who can’t score!
JQ playing won’t help us on the offensive end either. Please somebody tell me there’s a light at the end of the tunnel. We won’t make the ncaa tournament if **** don’t change.

 

[bkimrey2]

1 Jasper

2 chandler

3 Hawthorne

4Noah

5A Moreno 5B Potter

Let’s roll baby

It's wild to that there isn't argument against it. Everyone's like lets do it. Can't reflect on anything that says otherwise.

Like I said earlier, you could combine the Lexington and Louisville mens church league teams into an all-star team and compete at the rate we are.

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

It's wild to that there isn't argument against it. Everyone's like lets do it. Can't reflect on anything that says otherwise.

Like I said earlier, you could combine the Lexington and Louisville mens church league teams into an all-star team and compete at the rate we are.

Oh I promise you I wasn’t being funny. I wouldn’t be mad if he did that. I just sat there and watched the other guys do what they did. Wild. Jasper and Chandler gave the most effort. Moreno looked good to me in the UNC game but not so much tonight. I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many open lay ups. No rim protection at all.

I would rather see that five go play and lose than the other ones not give a **** and not just lose but lose by 40 something.

 

[bkimrey2]

Oh I promise you I wasn’t being funny. I wouldn’t be mad if he did that. I just sat there and watched the other guys do what they did. Wild. Jasper and Chandler gave the most effort. Moreno looked good to me in the UNC game but not so much tonight. I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many open lay ups. No rim protection at all.

I would rather see that five go play and lose than the other ones not give a **** and not just lose but lose by 40 something.

I think we do it next game. Bench everyone that received over 10% of NIL money of the teams roster and let's see what happens.

F it. I'm so mad about the amount of money and how hard our fan base works to earn money.

It's not the players faults but my god.

 

[so05]

I’m tired of hearing about Lowe. He’s not what people are propping him to be. Anyone that has actually watched him play knows he’s not anything special. He’s an average college guard that shoots a low percentage and takes bad shots. Stop acting like he matters. He doesn’t change a thing

 

[Bill_the_cat]

Performance incentives gotta go into NIL. These college kids have it better than the pros. Pros can at least get fines or fired.

That would be one of the worse things to happen. Players would be more about themselves than they are now.
Imagine a points per game incentive. Players would be gunning to get theirs.

 

[Bill_the_cat]

UK needs to do what other programs do to counter the already getting paid stuff. boosters at other schools still hand them money under the table for playing well. I know it for a fact, my husband has boosters of several schools in his family or his cousins are married into a family of boosters etc. How do I know we dont do it? Because those guys would be playing harder for more money if you dangled extra money every time they play hard

Very naive take.

 

[preston-lemasterpiece]

Man I got banned for calling them the P word but that’s exactly what Lowe is. Team is better without him. Let him get his money and get the hell on next year. He’s not UK level. He’s bad. Say he’s hurt? Ok he’s still bad.

He was always a bad choice. He is not PG1 material at UK

 

[TFCat11]

There’s one common denominator with this teams issues… Mark Pope! Stop blaming NIL!

Literally, no other team in the country is having issues handling their business except for UK!

Again, what’s the common denominator?

 

[UKCowboys]

Chandler was really pissed, I felt his pain. Lowe has other priorities.

I agree. I would start DA, CC, TN, MD and MM and play 30+ minutes each, regardless of the score

 

[AllBall]

I know we got beat, we aren't a good team etc...

Jaland Lowe at the post game press conference says it all. Not visibly upset, seems cheerful and we'll get em next time. Complete opposite of what we've seen in years past. We'd have players crying or mad as hell not barely speaking at a press conference after a loss.

I liked the fire in chandlers eyes and I think he feels the loss / performance more.

This whole NIL thing killed UK culture and will to win. We have a group of players who don't give a **** about the jersey, the heritage, and understand the work their predecessors had to put in to earn it.

I understand why it's easy for tenured fans and players to look at this team like wtf after busting their tail to earn a spot in the nba or to be a proud ticket holder.

Sad day for us and more ahead.

There's a reason he was at Pitt to begin with. The portal can provide access to some good players but you better do your due diligence scouting them. Unfortunately, Pope is too analytical and can't see the forest for the trees. Roster construction isn't just a statistics game.

 

[AllBall]

I’m tired of hearing about Lowe. He’s not what people are propping him to be. Anyone that has actually watched him play knows he’s not anything special. He’s an average college guard that shoots a low percentage and takes bad shots. Stop acting like he matters. He doesn’t change a thing

Guys end up at destinations for a reason and he was at Pitt. Enough said!!!

 

[KentuckyWildcats74]

Performance incentives gotta go into NIL. These college kids have it better than the pros. Pros can at least get fines or fired.

Only issue with trying to do that is the whole team will be fighting for minutes cause it is costing them money. I am not sure how you get around that.

 

[truthteller]

Something about Lowe seems weird to me. Maybe he's just a positive guy and that's fine. But it almost comes off as he just doesn't give a **** about anything. I don't know.

Mercs be mercs...

 

[Tri-Countycat]

That would be one of the worse things to happen. Players would be more about themselves than they are now.
Imagine a points per game incentive. Players would be gunning to get theirs.

I didn’t necessarily mean individual but you can add levels to their pay that includes conference championship, ncaa wins. You don’t play as a team and win games, you don’t get as much money

 

[Smeegs]

We have a group of players who don't give a **** about the jersey, the heritage, and understand the work their predecessors had to put in to earn it.

This shift began well before NIL. It became clear only a few years into Cal’s one and model that we were attracting recruits who chose UK only because they viewed it as the fastest road to pro money.

But you’re right that there has been a VERY clear change. There once was a time when our recruits chose UK for UK itself …and they truly wanted to become part of that tradition and heritage. But now it seems that most come here only because they have dollar signs in their eyes (whether in the form of NIL or the quick road to the NBA).

 

[Arthur Fleck]

Performance incentives gotta go into NIL. These college kids have it better than the pros. Pros can at least get fines or fired.

The players okie doked us. Got paid, and decided to give up. They gave up at halftime last night. We got destroyed by a team that had a TOTAL NIL budget that was less than 1 of our players. Unacceptable

 

[sk73]

It is easy to blame this on NIL. The problem with that way of thinking is that the teams we have played and, the ones we will play, all have NIL structured on
their team. We are simply a bad team right now. Pope selected these players, he coaches these players, he , on some level, had a hand in determining what they are receiving in NIL. Other teams do not seem to have this issue. The question is why do we? It all circles back to Pope. I am not sure how this Pope team can be fixed. I sure hope they can though, there is a lot of the season left.Few of us can watch this much longer without significant changes

 

[Anon1762918729]

It’s a combination of NIL issues and Pope .. I feel the the players are getting paid regardless of how bad they dog it , and Pope being such a nice guy who won’t rip their heads off is just a bad combo . Can you see Pope telling Oweh “ quit being a selfish MFer” on the bench ?? . Sad site , I’m quickly , like rapid quick , becoming ambivalent to sports . Too bad Rafters isn’t still around , this place was like kindergarten compared to what RR would have been . And rightfully deserved. I told everyone NIL would ruin things . - ManitouDan

 

[Drcatfan]

Before we even signed Lowe we knew he was an undersized 30% 3pt shooting PG with questionable shot selection. We missed out on multiple other portal options ahead of him, then Pope thought Lowe could be improved with coaching and better talent around him. Lowe could be a solid contributo, but he is definitely not a difference making player

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Before we even signed Lowe we knew he was an undersized 30% 3pt shooting PG with questionable shot selection. We missed out on multiple other portal options ahead of him, then Pope thought Lowe could be improved with coaching and better talent around him. Lowe could be a solid contributo, but he is definitely not a difference making player

And it's questionable whether or not he has better talent around him. This Kentucky team is bad.

 

[Madhuvan]

I agree. If they're getting paid like pros, they need to know there are consequences for just not getting the job done. And those could be incentives, too.

I don't think you could fine them or cut their pay for missing shots, but issues of effort and not listening to coaches could definitely be a legitimate reason

Gonzaga lives in an NIL world too and it doesn’t seem to be a problem for them. Pope just totally screwed this up.

 

[carolinacat]

Before we even signed Lowe we knew he was an undersized 30% 3pt shooting PG with questionable shot selection. We missed out on multiple other portal options ahead of him, then Pope thought Lowe could be improved with coaching and better talent around him. Lowe could be a solid contributo, but he is definitely not a difference making player

True. I never understood the excess fawning over Lowe from many on this board. He was an average player (and shooter), on a below average Pitt team, playing in a mediocre conference. There are NO elite portal players....otherwise they'd be in the association.

 

[K_TIME]

I agree. If they're getting paid like pros, they need to know there are consequences for just not getting the job done. And those could be incentives, too.

I don't think you could fine them or cut their pay for missing shots, but issues of effort and not listening to coaches could definitely be a legitimate reason

I agree with the sentiment…but even pros get guaranteed money and many get paid 40m to miss long stretches of season

Besides….all schools are paying without stipulations on performance…so we’d just get no kids if we tried that stuff