Practice notes say Johnson doesn't have the arm to throw long. True or not true?
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Honest answer is that no one knows for sure, but he is pretty far behind Barker at this point, and was playing at a small JUCO in California, after beginning his career at Grambling, so my guess is that he is not Cam Newton. From what I saw in the BW game, he can be a good option in a Wildcat package, but if we have to play him an entire game, probably will not end well.
Has the arm, just puts too much air under it at this stage. The issue is his accuracy on the long ball. He's solid for 15-20 yards, which is fine. He can put a good amount of zip on the ball at that range while maintaining accuracy as well, but after that it's shaky.
Everybody knew he wasn't Cam Newton. If you assumed he would be, you're simply setting yourself up for disappointment.
Also, how effective he is in the full duration of a game will vary from game to game. Totally depends on how well the opposing defense handles a scrambling QB.
Does a running QB have to be able to throw the long ball? So long as he can complete the short and intermediate passes that should be enough to make him dangerous. If he can't throw at all, then that is a problem.
Why yes, now that you mention it, for a quarterback, I can certainly see where that would be a problem. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Neither did Hartline........
but I would love to have him at QB again.
but I would love to have him at QB again.
If the notes say it, then it is factual.
We cannot only think the notes are true if we like what they say.
We cannot only think the notes are true if we like what they say.
Usually when your starting QB gets injured for the season, you're screwed. I don't think it has much to do with Johnson's talent level to think we're screwed if our starting QB goes down for the year. That is usually the case everywhere. It sounds like the kid is an elite running QB and can throw the ball, but needs to work on his accuracy. If the kid has a pretty good QB coach for a couple of years, he could improve that part of his game and be a game changer at QB. The backup QB is always the most popular person on every football team in America. I'm sure it will be the same way with this kid and Kentucky fans. The first time Barker looks human on the football field, some will be calling for this kid to take over. I will admit i would like to see this kid take a few snaps during each game. In the past, running QBS have just destroyed our defense over the years. It's nice to think we have one of our own for a change.
Speaking of arm strength, honest question here, how is Barker's arm strength? I honestly haven't heard much one way or the other and wondered how far he can throw it and if he's got an average arm or a strong arm. I always heard how strong towles was but never really heard about Barker.
Anyone have an informed opinion? Thanks.
Anyone have an informed opinion? Thanks.
I believe Barker has a strong arm and can definitely put some zip on it. His problem has been trusting his arm to much and trying to throw into to tight of a window.
Short passes keeps the ball moving down the field. A 60% passer throwing routes 4 - 8 yards rests our defense, moves the ball and keeps us in games.
Every team needs breaks to happen.
Every team needs breaks to happen.
I have not read anything that says he cant throw deep because of arm strength? Usually the deep ball is in your legs.
no deep threat allows the DBs to play closer to the LOS, and tighten up man coverage, making the short passing game more difficult. He needs to demonstrate the ability to throw the ball down field even if unsuccessful to keep Ds honest.
I was then and still am 100% a Hartline fan.
He was probably one of the smartest QB I have seen in my 50 years of following UK.
Brooks said he had the best knowledge of the offense of any QB he had coached, and I think that was before his first year starting.
Define "long". I doubt there's any college QB that can't throw the ball 50yds. Hell, I could throw the ball 55-60 in HS many moons ago.
If coach woulda put you in you woulda won state. Met your soulmate. Does anyone know much about time travel.
Well, Johnson threw a 60 yard TD to Ross today, so I'd say his arm talent will suffice.
Just because you can throw a ball 55 yards doesn't mean that much. To me, a strong arm is throwing the 15-20 yard out from the opposite hash on without a lot of loop on it. Towles had a really strong arm. Barkers arm is strong but Towles kinda spoiled us with how strong his is.
I thought I read that he can make those throws, but accuracy is the problem. Never read where he doesn't have an arm.
I don't think arm strength is the problem with this kid. He has the arm strength to launch deep bombs. The problem with this kid and his deep throws is accuracy. I doubt any kid that couldn't throw the ball very far down the football field would even get a free ride at any school. After a year or two of good coaching, i'm sure the kid will improve his accuracy and compete for a starting QB role. He has the legs to give any defense fits. If the kid ever improves his accuracy, it's scary to think how talented he could be on the field.
Looks pretty good to me....helped by a fantastic catch from our best wide receiver, Juice
There is nothing more overrated than the 'big arm' when it comes to quarterbacks. Accuracy, decision making and the ability to read a defense are much more important tools. Every D1 QB can hit a go route. If you are going to go deep with a weaker arm you just have to make the decision and get the ball out quicker.