PREVIEW: Iowa hosts Minnesota for top-10 Friday night dual

Trapper85

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I would say all those things are on the coaches. Conditioning for sure, but also motivation, strategy and competition via depth. If kids don't want to wrestle for Brands, that is a brands problem.

Prety sure Iowa has money and a historic reputation with top notch facilities. Kids are not choosing Iowa because of Brands. The Program needs new blood with new approaches. Losing 6 or 7 duels is rock bottom.
I certainly get the idea that the buck always ends with the coach, fair or not, but just not going to let the athletes completely off the hook for all uninspired performances. Sometimes it really is on them too.
 

MSU158

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He said top 3. I'm holding him to that. If Iowa doesn't finish the NCAA tournament in top 3 MSU is going to agree a change needs to be made. Is this correct MSU?
I am fine with saying top 3 along with the finishes I listed. If they barely miss third and still have the finishes I listed, I am not going to come on here and scream failure. But, I am happy to treat it the same way I said I would if Iowa finishes just short of the AA/Finalist threshold.

Notice, for all the vitriol and “goal post moving” comments, I am the ONLY one here actually putting myself out there. The rest are all whining and complaining but I don’t see them locking in ANYTHING for themselves. That is because it is easier to just complain and snipe from cover!
 
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I love that I live inside so many chrome domes. Sadly, I didn’t watch so I really can’t comment about the meet itself. What I can say is the group they put on the mat better not be what they put on the mat in March. Peterson makes a giant difference at 125, Ferrari has to be at 184 and Mo no longer manning 197 is crushing.

What I can say is this is the FIRST year under Brands where they haven’t been awesome in duals and the same people complaining now didn’t care one bit about that. They concentrated solely on March, ignoring that they basically never lose a dual to anyone but PSU.

This year they seem nowhere near as focused on duals and are sending out multiple backups. Maybe that is part of the plan or maybe they aren’t that good. March will tell the tale.

As I said before, if they falter in March, you guys can burn it all down on here and you won’t see me on here trying to stand in the way…
Like people need your permission ooooohh the ego most people on here have been iowa fans much longer than you so im sure their dissatisfaction is warranted
 

Trapper85

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Beth actually sat right behind me tonight, and she didn't look all that happy at the end of the meet.

She took in the crowd leaving after Harvey lost, and you could tell it affected her. I think she sees what needs to be done, and is willing to do it.
You said a girl's name and she...pics required? 😉
 

AndreTheHawk

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I love that I live inside so many chrome domes. Sadly, I didn’t watch so I really can’t comment about the meet itself. What I can say is the group they put on the mat better not be what they put on the mat in March. Peterson makes a giant difference at 125, Ferrari has to be at 184 and Mo no longer manning 197 is crushing.

What I can say is this is the FIRST year under Brands where they haven’t been awesome in duals and the same people complaining now didn’t care one bit about that. They concentrated solely on March, ignoring that they basically never lose a dual to anyone but PSU.

This year they seem nowhere near as focused on duals and are sending out multiple backups. Maybe that is part of the plan or maybe they aren’t that good. March will tell the tale.

As I said before, if they falter in March, you guys can burn it all down on here and you won’t see me on here trying to stand in the way…
If this is part of some grand plan, it's failing miserably IMO. The guys that typically make an NCAA podium are guys that wrestle well throughout the year, and TRY to win every match they wrestle in. Well, uummm, aahhh, yeah.

Our seeds in the Big Ten Tournament and subsequently NCAA's are dropping like flies at multiple weights. If you like watching Iowa in the consi's early in a tournament, this is your year!

I would be STUNNED if this team isn't on a record pace for offensive futility in a season. The lack of takedowns is astounding, and what might be more astounding is the lack of shots taken to actually get one. It's aaahhh, uumm, hard to watch.

But somehow in March that's going to change? Color me skeptical.

Unfortunately I'll be tuned into most of it, and hope to see some actual Iowa Wrestling. At the current rate, I just hope my TV's survive it (Note to self: when Bailey and Williams wrestle, go do dishes, wash the car, scoop snow even if there isn't any, etc. Hell, I might buy one of those machines that makes snow, just to be sure.......)
 

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If this is part of some grand plan, it's failing miserably IMO. The guys that typically make an NCAA podium are guys that wrestle well throughout the year, and TRY to win every match they wrestle in. Well, uummm, aahhh, yeah.

Our seeds in the Big Ten Tournament and subsequently NCAA's are dropping like flies at multiple weights. If you like watching Iowa in the consi's early in a tournament, this is your year!

I would be STUNNED if this team isn't on a record pace for offensive futility in a season. The lack of takedowns is astounding, and what might be more astounding is the lack of shots taken to actually get one. It's aaahhh, uumm, hard to watch.

But somehow in March that's going to change? Color me skeptical.

Unfortunately I'll be tuned into most of it, and hope to see some actual Iowa Wrestling. At the current rate, I just hope my TV's survive it (Note to self: when Bailey and Williams wrestle, go do dishes, wash the car, scoop snow even if there isn't any, etc. Hell, I might buy one of those machines that makes snow, just to be sure.......)
I really wonder if we see Estrada at 157? Second time JW quit in a match at least and Tom basically said we don't do that. Could see JW being benched permanently.
 
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I love that I live inside so many chrome domes. Sadly, I didn’t watch so I really can’t comment about the meet itself. What I can say is the group they put on the mat better not be what they put on the mat in March. Peterson makes a giant difference at 125, Ferrari has to be at 184 and Mo no longer manning 197 is crushing.

What I can say is this is the FIRST year under Brands where they haven’t been awesome in duals and the same people complaining now didn’t care one bit about that. They concentrated solely on March, ignoring that they basically never lose a dual to anyone but PSU.

This year they seem nowhere near as focused on duals and are sending out multiple backups. Maybe that is part of the plan or maybe they aren’t that good. March will tell the tale.

As I said before, if they falter in March, you guys can burn it all down on here and you won’t see me on here trying to stand in the way…
Sorry, guy, just a friendly jab. I actually appreciate varied opinions here including yours.
 
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heldyhawk606

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I really wonder if we see Estrada at 157? Second time JW quit in a match at least and Tom basically said we don't do that. Could see JW being benched permanently.
ISU - stopped wrestling and gave up td to go from dec to md
neb - stopped wrestling and gave up stall call to lose in sv
minn - quit in match

3 school now, are we seeing a pattern?
 

Hawkapottomos Rex

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Don’t be an ***. And yeah I realize their two guys lost to our third ranked wrestlers, but I also see where other Minn wrestlers beat our higher ranked guys. Would love to have Kem on our staff.
Don't be an effing idiot saying he's why they won. 165 to 184 did very little. I would love to have him on staff also, but that doesn't mean his weights did anything special last night.
 

Sett1997

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Don’t be an ***. And yeah I realize their two guys lost to our third ranked wrestlers, but I also see where other Minn wrestlers beat our higher ranked guys. Would love to have Kem on our staff.
Kem over Star and Telford + 1000. Guy could bring it. Didn't wrestle or teach the bs no td crap we are seeing now! Spot on @ Nashville_Hawk.
 

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I am fine with saying top 3 along with the finishes I listed. If they barely miss third and still have the finishes I listed, I am not going to come on here and scream failure. But, I am happy to treat it the same way I said I would if Iowa finishes just short of the AA/Finalist threshold.

Notice, for all the vitriol and “goal post moving” comments, I am the ONLY one here actually putting myself out there. The rest are all whining and complaining but I don’t see them locking in ANYTHING for themselves. That is because it is easier to just complain and snipe from cover!
So 4th. You'll be satisfied with 4th. Cool. Sad, but cool.
Why exactly are you obsessing now over what other people think we'll finish?
You want to parse and try to make it about duals last year and march this year blah blah... the reality is they haven't sniffed a team title in 5 years and only getting further away. Anyone still refusing to admit that is either ignorant or trolling.
 

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So 4th. You'll be satisfied with 4th. Cool. Sad, but cool.
Why exactly are you obsessing now over what other people think we'll finish?
You want to parse and try to make it about duals last year and march this year blah blah... the reality is they haven't sniffed a team title in 5 years and only getting further away. Anyone still refusing to admit that is either ignorant or trolling.
And the COVID year, the year after when we officially were the best team and the year PSU punted and we pissed it away to OSU were pretty much the only years we were sniffing titles after 2010.
 

Nashville_Hawk

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Don't be an effing idiot saying he's why they won. 165 to 184 did very little. I would love to have him on staff also, but that doesn't mean his weights did anything special last night.
Where did I say he's why they won? You're as bad as MSU putting words in people's mouths. Go back and read what I actually said and then apologize for being an ***...
 

JoeBagobagels

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And yet my name keeps getting mentioned when I am not in the conversation. Interesting logic…

Also, I never said I knew more than Askren. I simply made a point that there was no guarantee he knows what is best for Iowa or really even truly cares what is best for them. After that, with all the kicks and punches to the head, along with having major organs removed and replaced, questioning someone treating his word on the subject as gospel, is absolutely warranted.

But, hey, I am such an insignificant annoyance that you shouldn’t need to respond nor care so much about anything I post, right?
It's because you keep on running on and driving things into the ground.
 

JoeBagobagels

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Here’s your post where you say you know more about college wrestling than Ben Askren

because he’s never been a head coach (he’s been an assistant) and you claim to have more experience at dealing with admin, donors, fans…?, and scheduling…

You also tried to say he needs to be a program insider or connected to the program in some way to essentially have a valid opinion on Iowa’s problems…

Now you are trying to say you didn’t say what you said.
That's what happens when you talk to yourself talk.
Iowa's problem is that they don't have Cael Sanderson. Ok St hired Taylor to take the best shot at winning , who knows when the next Gable/Cael comes around.

And who knows if Taylor is/will be Sanderson level , but waiting until you're sure means another team snatched up the next great one.
 
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Hawkapottomos Rex

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Where did I say he's why they won? You're as bad as MSU putting words in people's mouths. Go back and read what I actually said and then apologize for being an ***...
Meet was bad enough you don't have to add other BS. Now you can apologize for being a dumbass. Then instead of crying you can list how much money every team has and give the plan you have for success. I see no chance of competing with the top two teams in the future without a billionaire coming in with an open checkbook. And if you disagree with that lay out how, otherwise STFU
 

Nashville_Hawk

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Meet was bad enough you don't have to add other BS. Now you can apologize for being a dumbass. Then instead of crying you can list how much money every team has and give the plan you have for success. I see no chance of competing with the top two teams in the future without a billionaire coming in with an open checkbook. And if you disagree with that lay out how, otherwise STFU
Puss boy, I’m good with being kind but I’m also good with going medevil when dealing with people that need it. Again sissy boy, you’re just like MSU in that you refer to **** others didn’t say and then add you’re f’d up twist. And please bring your *****-*** **** anytime. I’d be glad to do what your mommy failed to do…beat your ***! F***kers like you make me sick…you can’t have a normal conversation.
 

Hawkapottomos Rex

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Puss boy, I’m good with being kind but I’m also good with going medevil when dealing with people that need it. Again sissy boy, you’re just like MSU in that you refer to **** others didn’t say and then add you’re f’d up twist. And please bring your *****-*** **** anytime. I’d be glad to do what your mommy failed to do…beat your ***! F***kers like you make me sick…you can’t have a normal conversation.
Name the bridge ***** mofo 😂
 
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don't do it rex, nash is going to call in an air strike on the bridge
Hawkapottomos Rex. Hot Legs by Rod Stewart was playing on Jukebox when I posted this. Rex is in perfect Sync! 🤣🤣

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