Does anyone think that Pribula transferring caused division in the locker room especially on offense? Did the transfer and the way they lost to ND spill into this year? Just seems like once the guy is THE guy, then all competitions for first string die. The hubby and I were discussing this today.
Pribula ripple effect?
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Beau had nothing to do with anything.
Good luck to him in Mizzou
Good luck to him in Mizzou
We were rooting for him Saturday.
I think this is one of the problems with Penn State football under James Franklin, and I've mentioned it in other threads.
There's a meme going around that says Ryan Day saw 1 season of Kyle McCord and said, "We can do better."
But Franklin saw 1 season of Drew and said, "Run it back and go again." Then he saw a second season of Drew and said, "Run it back and go again."
So, I agree it does seem like there's not really a competition for certain starting positions. Instead, Franklin was just playing favorites and for all his claims about being a metrics guy, he sure as hell wasn't paying close attention to the data because the data clearly said, "Stop giving Nick Singleton carries."
Franklin coming out and saying "this is the best coaching staff and personnel he has ever had" is what brought about unrealistic expectation and ultimately caused his firing IMO.
Pribula reminds me of McSorley. Doesn't have the big arm like Allar but much more of a team leader.
The biggest problem with Franklin is that he viewed football coaching totally through the lens of recruiting. He promised Allar that he would start for his tenure at Penn State. Thus, Franklin was going to start Allar even if Mahones showed up and wanted to play. Pribula was never going to start no matter how good he was. Franklin promised Allen and Singleton that they would get nearly equal carries every game. Thus, when Allen was playing well this year and Singleton sucked, Singleton got nearly equal carries. It goes on and on. Franklin was a recruiter and little else. He spent his time and energy recruiting. That is how he viewed the job of head college football coach.
There is a vast difference between Pribula and McSorley. McSorley was a much better passer and way more accurate. Also, McSorley was a much better runner.
I watched Pribula in his game against Alabama. Pribula still has the same weaknesses he had at Penn State. He is not a reliable passer for anything beyond 10 yards.
We should set up a requirement where you have to watch Beau against Bama before you can post about him
McSorely also had the luxury of throwing up 50/50 balls to guys like Godwin, Gesicki, Johnson and Blacknall. Big, physical WRs with good hands. Not every QB has that.
I didnt watch the game, but looked at the stat line. Beau was pretty pedestrian. But they still had a chance. Just curious, how does his supporting cast compare to if he was starting for PSU this year?
Which leads to another elephant in the room - player development. Not only QBs, but others on offense - RBs, OL - seemed in too many cases to "regress" over their college career. Recruiting generational talents like Barkley and Warren helped to hide that issue.
I don't think so. That said, I can offer nothing in terms of why this team hasn't gelled. Some have suggested that Carter and Warren carried the squad last year and their loses were paramount. Could it have been that the players bought in too much to the hype of being "the best team ever?" Maybe. We can talk about scheme and scheme fit all we want, but what about execution? Is the scheme so bad that it cannot be executed? I don't think so.
All you need to do is see how rough the OL is with all the experience there as well as the churn of WRs over the last 3 years. Plus, did Drew get any better since his first start as a sophomore?
And still beat Alabama. It's not a beauty contest that's how we got stuck with Drew.
Really? What a ridiculous post. Clifford played better than Levis (look it up) and Allar is better than Pribula. Playing Clifford and Allar didn’t have a damn thing to do with Franklin’s firing. Honest to God
And which recruiting visits did you attend when Franklin allegedly said these things?
Because he's not very good
They started the seasons playing awful teams at home and have an incredible RB they pound the ball with
Mizzou went 9-3 last year...some here act like he went to some horrible program. We'll see if he can match that win total.
Franklin is a people person first. It's a superpower that makes him a good recruiter. He's honest with recruits and their families, and tries to hold to his word. There's a lot of good there.
But, that comes back to haunt you when players don't work out for whatever reason. I think the Ryan Day example is a good one. You can't let 1-2 player relationships derail your program for multiple years.
Allar and Singleton are good examples of kids who came in highly touted and regressed for one reason or another. The reasons are less important than the ultimate on-field output. If it doesn't work, then a modern coach has to make changes.
Allar and Singleton aren't the only reasons this team has spun sideways. I'm sure there are other examples. But I think much of it comes back to Franklin's desire to make good on the recruiting relationships and promises he made. His final press conference said as much.
They lost kiddo
Primarily because of his mistakes
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Pribula has several receivers at Missouri who do just that. Did you actually watch any of the Missouri games? I did. A fumble, 2 picks and a third dropped. I can only imagine all the venom on this board if Allar played like that.
Well I do think there is a lack of player leadership on this year’s team.
They have the leading rusher in the country (at least prior to last week), a great OL, and 2 NFL WRs. There's a reason they won 9 games last year. 10 if you count bowls.
Still beat Bama. You might want to check Saturday’s scores and get back to us
You said McSorley had the benefit of having tall receivers who could win 50/50 balls. I’m sorry what am I missing?
I can't find it now, but the thread might have been in the Lions Den. Evidently, Wheatley's dad indicated that there is an issue, and it is not with "vocal leadership." He went on to decline answering further questions. Personally, like you, I don't see it. Who is the guy getting the D fired up? Who is the guy getting the O fired up?
Now Missouri is way more talented than PSU. Your Allar dilusion knows no bounds.
"Put Allar on Missouri and he wins multiple Heismans this year alone!"
W
Not sure how we aren't seeing leadership from Allar and Kaytron.
Why isn't Wheatlty doing that?
Not sure how we aren't seeing leadership from Allar and Kaytron.
That's not what I said but I know reading what is written can be a challenge.
Allen is a better RB but isn't used correctly by the staff. We likely have more OL talent but they aren't playing to that level. Are you claiming our OL is better?
He does have better receivers.
Allar isn't a great fit for their offense. Wouldn't win a Heisman there.
If we did see leadership from Allar and Kaytron, it certainly didn't manifest itself in execution.
Yep. Is OSU all about winning first ? You better believe it - can't stand them but they - and many other top CF programs (not just OSU) - realize that CF is big business now and you better produce results or you're out the door