Proposed new NCAA tourney format

[BigBlueGuru]

This proposal would allow the NCAA or college basketball to maximize its popularity and profits surrounding one of the greatest sporting events going which is March Madness.

1. Make the NCAA bracket announcement a 2 hour event

2. Start out the brackets with the 4 # 1 seeds placed in their regions based on geography. So for example Kentucky this year would be rewarded for their overall body of work by playing in the closest region.

3. Have 15 ping pong type lottery machines set up with the other teams in each. For example you would have a machine with 4 # 2 seeds, one with 4 # 3 seeds, one with 4 # 4 seeds etc.

4. Have the rest of each brackets drawn out buy simple randomness.

5. Takes out all of the storylines, human biases, and makes it all the luck of the draw.

6. Bigger picture for college basketball is they could extend the NCAA bracket show from 30 minutes or an hour to 2 hours minimum and build the excitement which would keep folks glued to their TV's for 2 hours.


OK I am bored and just thinking out loud lol. Plus a few cold beers.

 

[WildcatfaninOhio]

Terrible!!!

 

[mkasten25]

I like assign the 1 seeds by geography. Then assign 5-68 to go in order. 1 minute or 90 seconds to choose bracket, matchups etc. A 2 seed could pick to be a 3 seed in another bracket instead of being in UK's bracket. Would make for great drama.

 

[WildMoon]

I liked my idea better.

Just rank them in order of 1 - 64 (screw that 1st round ****)

Then, have the head coach pick the placement from best seed to lowest seed.

 

[BigBlueGuru]

mkasten I actually like that. Has the NBA Draft format to it lol

 

[KyCatFan1]

I like the idea of letting the 1 seeds pick who they want in their brackets from the teams that are already assigned the 2-16 seeds. Maybe alternate the picking order after each seed line. The top 1 gets first choice of the 2 seeds. Then the 2nd 1 seed, 3rd 1 seed, and finally 4th 1 seed. The 2nd 1 seed gets first choice of the 3 seeds. Then the 3rd 1 seed, 4th 1 seed, and finally the 1st 1 seed. Just keep alternating the picks until they are done.

You could do that same system but keep the order the same for every seed line to reward the top seeds. So basically we get whatever bracket we want this year and the other 1 seeds have to pick between whatever teams are left. That would truly reward the top team each year. The top team could be chosen by the AP Top 25 poll so you know there won't be as easy a chance to rig it by just having a couple people on a committee choose it.
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[kramer318]

Have the committee purely go with the S curve format... But they want as many butts in seats as possible... That's why "geography" is important to them. But also keep teams that you've played in the regular season from meeting again until at least the Elite 8. Or Sweet 16 if too many conference opponents make the tourney.

This post was edited on 3/9 8:21 PM by Kramer318

 

[KentuckyWildcat4Life]

If its not broken dont fix it.

 

[bthaunert]

I've always thought they should put the 4 regions together but leave the #1 seeds out. You show the 4 brackets with seeds 2-16 already listed to the #1 overall seed and they select which bracket they want and which region they want (for example, UK might want the south region and be in Houston instead of the Midwest region). Then the #2 overall seed picks from the 3 remaining brackets and 3 remaining regions and the #3 overall seed picks from the 2 remaining brackets and regions and the #4 overall seed gets the bracket and region that is left.

 

[UKvisitor_rivals101449]

In the past: I read the official selection committee guidelines. The selection committee results are released. Confusion ensued.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

Maybe add two more play-in games to balance it out.

In the past, there's been some suggestions of reseeding at 16 and 4.

 

[JonathanW_rivals]

Horrible idea.

So you could have the 5th best team having to travel across the country to be in the same region as the #1 team.
You could have 2 teams that had met 3 times during the season playing in the sweet 16 (1 & 4, or 2 & 3 seeds).

 

[new era cat]

Originally posted by KentuckyWildcat4Life:
If its not broken dont fix it.

If they are emphasizing geography over the S curve after the top four seeds, then it is broken.

 

[Ugoff]

I can see both sides on geography vs s curve. On one hand the top 1 should get the weakest 2, but I also like that fans can travel to close venues. Plus empty gyms are bad optics. Overall I would have to side with geography.

 

[supa916]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE GURU:
This proposal would allow the NCAA or college basketball to maximize its popularity and profits surrounding one of the greatest sporting events going which is March Madness.

1. Make the NCAA bracket announcement a 2 hour event

2. Start out the brackets with the 4 # 1 seeds placed in their regions based on geography. So for example Kentucky this year would be rewarded for their overall body of work by playing in the closest region.

3. Have 15 ping pong type lottery machines set up with the other teams in each. For example you would have a machine with 4 # 2 seeds, one with 4 # 3 seeds, one with 4 # 4 seeds etc.

4. Have the rest of each brackets drawn out buy simple randomness.

5. Takes out all of the storylines, human biases, and makes it all the luck of the draw.

6. Bigger picture for college basketball is they could extend the NCAA bracket show from 30 minutes or an hour to 2 hours minimum and build the excitement which would keep folks glued to their TV's for 2 hours.


OK I am bored and just thinking out loud lol. Plus a few cold beers.

A lottery like selection using ping pong balls. That could never work...

 

[Lob2Davis]

Why would you want it to be random? You should rank the seeds 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d, 2a, 2b..and so forth and let the higher ranked team pick which team they want to play in each round. That's the only way to fairly reward the best teams. I'd rather have the current system with the rivalries and human interest motives than just a random draw that could be just as, if not more, unfair to the better team.

 

[Bluebloodbud]

Only fair way.... Seed the top 16 based on the average of the "approved" rankings. Teams ranked 1,8,9 and 16 are in the same region, Teams ranked 2,7,10 15 are in the same region and so on. One overall seed gets region closest to home, then the 2 gets the next closest to home and so on.

Taking the overall number one seed and putting the top overall 2 seed in the same bracket is unfair to both teams and give other teams a bigger advantage than the overall 1 seed gets. Placing teams based on region to home makes the regions not balanced.

Wisc and UK in the same region automatically makes it the toughest region, unfair to other teams in that region.

 

[83Cat_rivals79182]

Once thing that I DO think is crap is the automatic bid from the conference tourneys. A team can suck all year long and come along and get hot in one tourney and knock out a team that won every game. That sucks. I don't know what the solution is, but they give little credence for winning the regular season and a sure thing for winning a four day tourney.

 

[maysvilleky]

The committee soon will declare Duke can play all their games at home "due to the great atmosphere" until the final 4.

Honestly if they want geography to be the deciding factor...Do what the women's tourney is doing. Top 4 seeds in each bracket host the first 2 games. Place teams most geographic to those locations. It gives the top seeds an advantage, but that's what the geography thing does anyways.
This post was edited on 3/10 9:03 AM by maysvilleky

 

[UKnVT]

Just add a weekend to the NCAA and do away with the Conference Tournaments. The only teams not playing are the ones that TRULY don't deserve to be (or, if you really have to include everyone, then ad a round of play-in games).

1st weekend to be hosted by top seeded teams to avoid the empty seats.

I also like a seeding based on a balance between S curve AND geography, but things have gone a little overboard in favor of geography at times. Not too long ago, it was the opposite.

Now (based on current "bracketology"), for a team like UK, that has been the best team, #1 from wire to wire, to draw the toughest 2 seed is horse $%^&, and the novelty of facing UofL in the Tournament is beginning to wear off ... this would be the 3rd time in 4 years.

Whatever .... we all know the committee is going to do what ever they want, and certainly won'y have UK's best interest at heart. Bring it on!

 

[bthaunert]

Originally posted by 83Cat:
Once thing that I DO think is crap is the automatic bid from the conference tourneys. A team can suck all year long and come along and get hot in one tourney and knock out a team that won every game. That sucks. I don't know what the solution is, but they give little credence for winning the regular season and a sure thing for winning a four day tourney.

That is a conference choice. The Big Ten held out for a long time and finally added one in the late 90's. The Ivy League still does not have a tournament and I can almost guarantee they never will.

 

[lonewildcat]

I'd like to see a double elimination format.

 

[Lob2Davis]

Originally posted by lonewildcat:
I'd like to see a double elimination format.

LOL, with how many teams? Final Four would be in the middle of the next season with 68

 

[lonewildcat]

Originally posted by Lob2Davis:

Originally posted by lonewildcat:
I'd like to see a double elimination format.

LOL, with how many teams? Final Four would be in the middle of the next season with 68

Keep the 68 teams... But I would have double elimination (basically a best of 3 series) begin in either the sweet 16 or elite 8.

 

[fuzz77]

How about rank the teams from 1-64 or 68 and then let each team select where they want to go?

#1 picks then #2, #3...on down the line. Perhaps #2 feels froggy and chooses to play #1 in the first round...or they decide to get as far away from them as possible.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Originally posted by lonewildcat:
I'd like to see a double elimination format.

Way too many teams. That could be done with the Final 4 though, but they would have to make it 2 weekends. I'd go for it, but seriously doubt it will ever happen. As other's have said I'd like to see them at least reseed it based on how the top 1-68 comes out of the committee. We can also be sure all 4 tops seeds won't make it that far.