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Quote from the College Football Matrix:

“When it comes down to the playoff committee, it comes down to some top things: Top 25 wins and wins against quality teams. A quality team is a team that finishes with a 7-5 record or better."


Funny how so many here didn't care for 7 wins (or 8 or 10 for that matter) and are now championing 5.
Funny how you make these claims and have no idea what people saying. My suggestion is Vernon ban this profile and you can use one of your other multies.
 

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Funny how you make these claims and have no idea what people saying. My suggestion is Vernon ban this profile and you can use one of your other multies.
If anyone has "multies" its you. If anyone should be banned its you.
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Quote from the College Football Matrix:

“When it comes down to the playoff committee, it comes down to some top things: Top 25 wins and wins against quality teams. A quality team is a team that finishes with a 7-5 record or better."


Funny how so many here didn't care for 7 wins (or 8 or 10 for that matter) and are now championing 5.

I KNOW. DON NEHLEN, WHO DID A LOT GOOD FOR WVU AND NOT JUST IN 1988 AND 1993, AVERAGED 7-4 SEASONS. NEAL BROWN IS .500 AND THE SAVIOR? MAYBE YES, MAYBE NO. TOO EARLY TO TELL. I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. WE'LL KNOW BETTER AFTER HIS 5TH SEASON. DOC SPEARS AND RICH WERE MARVELOUS AT WVU. BUT THOSE WHO DIDN'T LIKE RICH'S PERSONALITY, PERSONAL BEHAVIOR DISS THE VERY THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE THRILLED ABOUT IF NEAL DID IT. DON'T GET ME WRONG. I HOPE NEAL TAKES MY ALMA MATER TO THE NATIONAL TITLE. I'M NOT FROM MISSOURI BUT MY MIND HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN A SHOW-ME STATE. TALK IS CHEAP. WALK THE WALK FIRST BEFORE I'M IMPRESSED OR DISTRESSED.
 

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I KNOW. DON NEHLEN, WHO DID A LOT GOOD FOR WVU AND NOT JUST IN 1988 AND 1993, AVERAGED 7-4 SEASONS. NEAL BROWN IS .500 AND THE SAVIOR? MAYBE YES, MAYBE NO. TOO EARLY TO TELL. I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. WE'LL KNOW BETTER AFTER HIS 5TH SEASON. DOC SPEARS AND RICH WERE MARVELOUS AT WVU. BUT THOSE WHO DIDN'T LIKE RICH'S PERSONALITY, PERSONAL BEHAVIOR DISS THE VERY THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE THRILLED ABOUT IF NEAL DID IT. DON'T GET ME WRONG. I HOPE NEAL TAKES MY ALMA MATER TO THE NATIONAL TITLE. I'M NOT FROM MISSOURI BUT MY MIND HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN A SHOW-ME STATE. TALK IS CHEAP. WALK THE WALK FIRST BEFORE I'M IMPRESSED OR DISTRESSED.
WVU has historically won at the 7 wins per season clip. There have been better seasons and a couple of coaches who won more.

Bringing this up because so many people have commented that WVU football was somehow "destroyed" by the previous staff which won at least 7 games every year but one, and also won 8 games twice and 10 games twice. One bad season in year 3 brought the "average" # of wins down to 7 wins a year in the end.

But as we can see, those that matter in the national determination of college football success i.e. playoff commissioners, are not looking at programs that win 7 games as terrible at all. Certainly not those that also win 8 or 10 games in seasons.

Now that's not to say WVU had arrived at the "elite" status that people wanted to see WVU get to and maintain. But WVU was alot closer then than now for certain. WVU is no longer considered a "quality" program after the last couple seasons and that isn't good.
 

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WVU has historically won at the 7 wins per season clip. There have been better seasons and a couple of coaches who won more.

Bringing this up because so many people have commented that WVU football was somehow "destroyed" by the previous staff which won at least 7 games every year but one, and also won 8 games twice and 10 games twice. One bad season in year 3 brought the "average" # of wins down to 7 wins a year in the end.

But as we can see, those that matter in the national determination of college football success i.e. playoff commissioners, are not looking at programs that win 7 games as terrible at all. Certainly not those that also win 8 or 10 games in seasons.

Now that's not to say WVU had arrived at the "elite" status that people wanted to see WVU get to and maintain. But WVU was alot closer then than now for certain. WVU is no longer considered a "quality" program after the last couple seasons and that isn't good.

I would seriously take your wallet and car keys and leave you in the woods somewhere without anything on your feet.
You are just that annoying
 
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I would seriously take your wallet and car keys and leave you in the woods somewhere without anything on your feet.
You are just that annoying

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH BUCKAINEER, WHICH ISN'T NORMAL FOR ME, ON THIS:

Now that's not to say WVU had arrived at the "elite" status that people wanted to see WVU get to and maintain. But WVU was alot closer then than now for certain. WVU is no longer considered a "quality" program after the last couple seasons and that isn't good.

Nehlen in 1988 and 1993 and Rich in 2007 had WVU at Elite Status (no need for the quotes, Buck). Neal Brown is .500 so far. Doesn't mean he can't bring back Elite Status. Too early to tell either way. Come back after season 5 and we'll all have a more intelligent and knowledgeable discussion. Talk is cheap and meaningless. Slogans like Trust the Climb are nice but meaningless, too. Performance is VERY meaningful. Let's hope 2021, 2022 and 2023 performance make our hearts sing like Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music!
 
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I HAVE TO AGREE WITH BUCKAINEER, WHICH ISN'T NORMAL FOR ME, ON THIS:

Now that's not to say WVU had arrived at the "elite" status that people wanted to see WVU get to and maintain. But WVU was alot closer then than now for certain. WVU is no longer considered a "quality" program after the last couple seasons and that isn't good.

Nehlen in 1988 and 1993 and Rich in 2007 had WVU at Elite Status (no need for the quotes, Buck). Neal Brown is .500 so far. Doesn't mean he can't bring back Elite Status. Too early to tell either way. Come back after season 5 and we'll all have a more intelligent and knowledgeable discussion. Talk is cheap and meaningless. Slogans like Trust the Climb are nice but meaningless, too. Performance is VERY meaningful. Let's hope 2021, 2022 and 2023 performance make our hearts sing like Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music!
Probably because you and Bucky are the same person.
 

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Yeah, have to agree, the multi persona posters here always try to say anyone actually trying to discuss anything are what THEY are.

Really starting to think some are just bots.

Just another reason why the board has been destroyed. No discussion on anything, just Allen, Cranium and a few other trolls attacking everyone and anyone trying to discuss anything.
 

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I KNOW. DON NEHLEN, WHO DID A LOT GOOD FOR WVU AND NOT JUST IN 1988 AND 1993, AVERAGED 7-4 SEASONS. NEAL BROWN IS .500 AND THE SAVIOR? MAYBE YES, MAYBE NO. TOO EARLY TO TELL. I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. WE'LL KNOW BETTER AFTER HIS 5TH SEASON. DOC SPEARS AND RICH WERE MARVELOUS AT WVU. BUT THOSE WHO DIDN'T LIKE RICH'S PERSONALITY, PERSONAL BEHAVIOR DISS THE VERY THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE THRILLED ABOUT IF NEAL DID IT. DON'T GET ME WRONG. I HOPE NEAL TAKES MY ALMA MATER TO THE NATIONAL TITLE. I'M NOT FROM MISSOURI BUT MY MIND HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN A SHOW-ME STATE. TALK IS CHEAP. WALK THE WALK FIRST BEFORE I'M IMPRESSED OR DISTRESSED.
Link to said dissing of rod success at WVU.

Yes talk is cheap and yours is as cheap as they come bucksuck.
 

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Yeah, have to agree, the multi persona posters here always try to say anyone actually trying to discuss anything are what THEY are.

Really starting to think some are just bots.

Just another reason why the board has been destroyed. No discussion on anything, just Allen, Cranium and a few other trolls attacking everyone and anyone trying to discuss anything.
Yet another pile of **** FROM CFE with nothing to back it up.
 

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And so its interesting to know that people that matter considered 7 wins "quality", the sign that a program is good and doing well.

But unfortunately WVU let a few trolls push their anti success narrative and now look where WVU is. And the same are now spewing that WVU fans should be happy with 5 wins.
 

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Let me know when you actually understand the in's and outstanding of coaching. Then we might be able to chat.
 

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And so its interesting to know that people that matter considered 7 wins "quality", the sign that a program is good and doing well.

But unfortunately WVU let a few trolls push their anti success narrative and now look where WVU is. And the same are now spewing that WVU fans should be happy with 5 wins.
So a few trolls on a meaningless internet chat board are to blame for the record of the football program in the last 2 years?

You really need to get another hobby.
 

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So a few trolls on a meaningless internet chat board are to blame for the record of the football program in the last 2 years?

You really need to get another hobby.
Didn't see anyone saying anything other than the COACH being responsible for the record, but he sure has some supporting him as opposed the former far more successful coach who the same trolls railed out of Morgantown with endless social media attacks.

You and your cohorts really need to start accepting responsibility for what you do instead of adding to it by trying to attack those who point out what you did.
 

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Didn't see anyone saying anything other than the COACH being responsible for the record, but he sure has some supporting him as opposed the former far more successful coach.

You and your cohorts really need to start accepting responsibility for what you do instead of adding to it by trying to attack those who point out what you did.
cry me a river d-bag.
 

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Didn't see anyone saying anything other than the COACH being responsible for the record, but he sure has some supporting him as opposed the former far more successful coach who the same trolls railed out of Morgantown with endless social media attacks.

You and your cohorts really need to start accepting responsibility for what you do instead of adding to it by trying to attack those who point out what you did.
You need serious help. I'm requesting Vernon to ban you so you'll have the time to get help.
 

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Didn't see anyone saying anything other than the COACH being responsible for the record, but he sure has some supporting him as opposed the former far more successful coach who the same trolls railed out of Morgantown with endless social media attacks.

You and your cohorts really need to start accepting responsibility for what you do instead of adding to it by trying to attack those who point out what you did.
So as WVU beat Texas with a Will Grier 2 point conversion and battled Oklahoma for a shot at the Big 12 title game, Holgersen was being attacked on Social Media that he and his agent got in contact with UH a week after the season finale?

WOW, you sure can come up with a few whoppers there buckets. No one blamed him for the bowl loss (with Grier not playing) and attention didn’t turn towards him until he got a ride with the Houston booster’s private jet ( instead of returning with the team) to party and plan his departure.
 

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So as WVU beat Texas with a Will Grier 2 point conversion and battled Oklahoma for a shot at the Big 12 title game, Holgersen was being attacked on Social Media that he and his agent got in contact with UH a week after the season finale?

WOW, you sure can come up with a few whoppers there buckets. No one blamed him for the bowl loss (with Grier not playing) and attention didn’t turn towards him until he got a ride with the Houston booster’s private jet ( instead of returning with the team) to party and plan his departure.
Holgorsen was attacked by people like you the day he was announced to after he left as you well know. All the fake b.s. spewed upon him and his teams hurt WVU football indefinitely. You had fans calling for his head regardless of record, excusing away his successes, chasing off assistant coaches, demanding WV connections for coaches, had contracts delayed which destroyed decent recruiting classes, fans chasing off players who, yes, do see social media for schools they are considering, etc. etc.

Far more than one day and you know it.

Now you are all trying to sell that 5 wins is better? Yeah right.

WVU has dropped like a rock in football and idiots like yourself played your hand in it all too happily, now want to say "what? who me?" give me a break.
 
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Holgorsen was attacked by people like you the day he was announced to after he left as you well know. All the fake b.s. spewed upon him and his teams hurt WVU football indefinitely. You had fans calling for his head regardless of record, excusing away his successes, chasing off assistant coaches, demanding WV connections for coaches, had contracts delayed which destroyed decent recruiting classes, fans chasing off players who, yes, do see social media for schools they are considering, etc. etc.

Far more than one day and you know it.

Know you are all trying to sell that 5 wins is better? Yeah right.

WVU has dropped like a rock in football and idiots like yourself played your hand in it all too happily, now want to say "what? who me?" give me a break.
You have become so accustomed to lying that you do so even when there is no clear purpose, and those lies are easily disproven, leaving everyone scratching their heads over the point of your deceptions.

You tell lies because you're trying to control a situation and exert influence toward getting the decisions or reactions you want. The truth can be inconvenient to because it might not conform to your narrative.

Please quit with the ******** or post it in the woodshed. More than likely you will be eaten alive in the woodshed because well you're just not that good..
 

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Holgorsen was attacked by people like you the day he was announced to after he left as you well know. All the fake b.s. spewed upon him and his teams hurt WVU football indefinitely. You had fans calling for his head regardless of record, excusing away his successes, chasing off assistant coaches, demanding WV connections for coaches, had contracts delayed which destroyed decent recruiting classes, fans chasing off players who, yes, do see social media for schools they are considering, etc. etc.

Far more than one day and you know it.

Know you are all trying to sell that 5 wins is better? Yeah right.

WVU has dropped like a rock in football and idiots like yourself played your hand in it all too happily, now want to say "what? who me?" give me a break.
So, your basic premise is that WVU didn't ascend to the mountaintop of college football because Westside, Allen, and a few others on the Rivals message board allegedly made most of the stud recruits look elsewhere, made assistant coaches leave because of either negative or no praising remarks, and made Dana become so sad and/or angry he just had to leave? All because of the remarks on the Rivals message board?

Seriously?

OK... let's assume that premise is true. Then, wouldn't the results of all that show up for the teams we've had the past couple of years under Brown?

Brown, obviously having nothing to work with regarding both coaches and players, now has a .500 record. Under the circumstances you've described above, that probably makes Brown perhaps the best coach in WVU history wouldn't you say?

Now, if we can get Westside, Allen, and a few others to start praising the coaches, players, and recruits on here, under your way of thinking, the recruiting should pick up and the wins fall into place accordingly!
 

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Holgorsen was attacked by people like you the day he was announced to after he left as you well know. All the fake b.s. spewed upon him and his teams hurt WVU football indefinitely. You had fans calling for his head regardless of record, excusing away his successes, chasing off assistant coaches, demanding WV connections for coaches, had contracts delayed which destroyed decent recruiting classes, fans chasing off players who, yes, do see social media for schools they are considering, etc. etc.

Far more than one day and you know it.

Know you are all trying to sell that 5 wins is better? Yeah right.

WVU has dropped like a rock in football and idiots like yourself played your hand in it all too happily, now want to say "what? who me?" give me a break.
Well tough guy, what have I said negative about Holgersen? I support the program no matter who the coach is. Whoever the AD or president is. You get something in your pea brain and start painting the fan base with a broad brush to fit your little narrow minded view. Sorry sport. You’ll have to bring a little more to the table than your make believe story of poor Dana and making claims that are untrue.

Try harder. Or at least make a little more effort than cutting and pasting the same dribble over and over.
 

Buckaineer

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Well tough guy, what have I said negative about Holgersen? I support the program no matter who the coach is. Whoever the AD or president is. You get something in your pea brain and start painting the fan base with a broad brush to fit your little narrow minded view. Sorry sport. You’ll have to bring a little more to the table than your make believe story of poor Dana and making claims that are untrue.

Try harder. Or at least make a little more effort than cutting and pasting the same dribble over and over.
There is no reason to "try harder" when dealing with people like yourself who deny reality
 

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There is no reason to "try harder" when dealing with people like yourself who deny reality
In other words, you have zero facts to back up what you post and can only revert to name calling and make believe fairytales.

There is a reality that you need to check out. It’s the world of Highland Hospital. That realm may help you cope with your childish desire or need to argue over your small minded view from the kiddie pool OR your bizarre need to try to get other people riled up over nothing, just to get your jollies (like a few others roaming these boards).

Seek help.
 

Buckaineer

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In other words, you have zero facts to back up what you post and can only revert to name calling and make believe fairytales.

There is a reality that you need to check out. It’s the world of Highland Hospital. That realm may help you cope with your childish desire or need to argue over your small minded view from the kiddie pool OR your bizarre need to try to get other people riled up over nothing, just to get your jollies (like a few others roaming these boards).

Seek help.
LOL-yeah right, I've already presented facts.

You, living in your fantasy world, ignored them.

Check yourself in.
 

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LOL-yeah right, I've already presented facts.

You, living in your fantasy world, ignored them.

Check yourself in.
Facts proving that I drove stud recruits away?
Facts that I postings on a internet message board upset the feelings of assistant coaches to the point of leaving?
Facts that my posting on an internet message board got into the contract negotiations that caused stud recruits to go elsewhere?

Show me where I did any of the above, otherwise you can apologize at any time before the end of the week for your lies.
 

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Yeah, have to agree, the multi persona posters here always try to say anyone actually trying to discuss anything are what THEY are.

Really starting to think some are just bots.

Just another reason why the board has been destroyed. No discussion on anything, just Allen, Cranium and a few other trolls attacking everyone and anyone trying to discuss anything.
Let the board know when you're ready to discuss and not babble.
 

Buckaineer

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Facts proving that I drove stud recruits away?
Facts that I postings on a internet message board upset the feelings of assistant coaches to the point of leaving?
Facts that my posting on an internet message board got into the contract negotiations that caused stud recruits to go elsewhere?

Show me where I did any of the above, otherwise you can apologize at any time before the end of the week for your lies.
deny deny deny
 

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Let the board know when you're ready to discuss and not babble.
you know that we had a 5-win regular season....LMAO...what dumbass doesn't count the bowl win as the final record? Who? Just one dumbass troll.

You know why Holgs left....the internet trolls ran him out....that's why...not more money, shitting recruiting here leaving him with a bad team or getting to go back home...but internet trolls on a message board send holgs out.

Do you think bucky ever takes a step back from his trolling to see how stupid his takes really are?