Question about Sellers

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I’m not knocking him because he is obviously our best player. But is he truly a top draft pick? We were lucky we didn’t have a coupe of interceptions last night from bad throws. Don’t he need a little more time to develop before he goes pro? I’m hoping he stays another year
 
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He spoke about his play last night. What he said makes sense as to how defenses are playing him this year. They have taken away the running lanes and are forcing him to win with his arm.

Whether he is a 1st round pick or not probably depends on how the season works out. If it continues like this I think he will be back for another year.
 

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Sellers should have been picked off twice last night but they dropped the ball. At times, he looks like an excellent passer like the second td scoring drive in the second half. He said he realizes he has to get rid of the ball quicker like when we were down at the 2 yard line and he got sacked for 15 yards on the next play. Having no blocking and no running game makes things very difficult too in his defense. He's best when alluding tacklers and finding an open receiver but that hasn't happened much this season. Last night, they wanted him to be more of a pocket passer and run if completely necessary which is not his style really. His pro stock is dropping right now though.
 
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He spoke about his play last night. What he said makes sense as to how defenses are playing him this year. They have taken away the running lanes and are forcing him to win with his arm.

Whether he is a 1st round pick or not probably depends on how the season works out. If it continues like this I think he will be back for another year.
Makes perfect sense. He still makes some bad decisions - or at least takes too long to make them. Still, he had some really nice throws. I think the question I would have as an NFL GM is whether I could get enough out of him year 1 to justify a top pick. I do think the scouts know when he is and is not getting the support he needs. He won't get dinged for that in his evaluation.
 

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Teams are now going heavy on zone defense against him. In man to man coverage the corners often had their backs to the QB allowing him to take off. In zone there are more eyes and gives the ability to contain him more. They’re looking to make him beat them with his arm and take away his scrambling ability as much as possible
 
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We will not see a running quarterback the rest of this season. The NFL draft awaits with the promise of millions but not so much should injuries occur in the last 8 games. The risk reward aspect is just too high at this point and will certainly influence the out come of the remainder of this season. Blast away , but this is my opinion.
 

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We will not see a running quarterback the rest of this season. The NFL draft awaits with the promise of millions but not so much should injuries occur in the last 8 games. The risk reward aspect is just too high at this point and will certainly influence the out come of the remainder of this season. Blast away , but this is my opinion.
Sellers may shut it down early and prepare for the draft. I wouldn't blame him, he doesn't need anymore concussions.
 

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Sellers may shut it down early and prepare for the draft. I wouldn't blame him, he doesn't need anymore concussions.

OK Tater.

You opt for this instead of another fake Facebook post about Sellers?

You're a piece of work.
 
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We will not see a running quarterback the rest of this season. The NFL draft awaits with the promise of millions but not so much should injuries occur in the last 8 games. The risk reward aspect is just too high at this point and will certainly influence the out come of the remainder of this season. Blast away , but this is my opinion.
Maybe Sellers is choosing to run less to take away from the narrative that he's mostly a runner and not so much a passer.
 

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That's great for him, but feels crazy.
A part of that is that no QB has really stood out so far. When you look at the landscape, no player has stood out. Miami is winning, but Carson Beck isn't tearing it up. Same with LSU. Nussmeier isn't really tearing it up and has some really questionable decisions with the ball as well. Clemson and Klubnik's struggles are well documented. I would struggle to put together a Top 5 for the Heisman right now. Maybe the QB from Indiana, but that's more about what the team is doing as well. Southern Cal's QB has great stats, but it's still early and their toughest opponent has been a home game against Michigan State. Everything is wide open IMO and Sellers can still prove himself to be the top guy at QB. However, his individual play and the play of the team must improve.
 
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A part of that is that no QB has really stood out so far. When you look at the landscape, no player has stood out. Miami is winning, but Carson Beck isn't tearing it up. Same with LSU. Nussmeier isn't really tearing it up and has some really questionable decisions with the ball as well. Clemson and Klubnik's struggles are well documented. I would struggle to put together a Top 5 for the Heisman right now. Maybe the QB from Indiana, but that's more about what the team is doing as well. Southern Cal's QB has great stats, but it's still early and their toughest opponent has been a home game against Michigan State. Everything is wide open IMO and Sellers can still prove himself to be the top guy at QB. However, his individual play and the play of the team must improve.
Aguilar at UT has kind of blown up and shot into the Heisman discussion. He's the first QB that comes to mind for me since none of the pre-season favorites have lived up to hype.
 

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A part of that is that no QB has really stood out so far. When you look at the landscape, no player has stood out. Miami is winning, but Carson Beck isn't tearing it up. Same with LSU. Nussmeier isn't really tearing it up and has some really questionable decisions with the ball as well. Clemson and Klubnik's struggles are well documented. I would struggle to put together a Top 5 for the Heisman right now. Maybe the QB from Indiana, but that's more about what the team is doing as well. Southern Cal's QB has great stats, but it's still early and their toughest opponent has been a home game against Michigan State. Everything is wide open IMO and Sellers can still prove himself to be the top guy at QB. However, his individual play and the play of the team must improve.

Many games to play but Missouri's RB Hardy could easily end up on that list.
 

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So you're a gangster now Doubtfire? :)

You got sloppy
You don't know what a gangster is do you crazy guy. And if a crazy guy says I'm sloppy then it means I'm doing OK. That’s how it works crazy guy. I'm going to have a lot of fun with you. 🤣
 
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He is still polling the highest of all college quarterbacksamong NFL scouts. It’s not his fault that he’s a one-man show.
Sellers, while he hasn’t had a great beginning of the season is showing that he is becoming to be a better passer of the ball. He’s shown better touch and accuracy downfield. Everyone knows he can run better than any QB in the nation and now that he is showing skill with his arm I fully expect him to be a top NFL draft prospect. Scouts understand that his OL is mostly the reason for a lot of the troubles on the field.
 
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Aguilar at UT has kind of blown up and shot into the Heisman discussion. He's the first QB that comes to mind for me since none of the pre-season favorites have lived up to hype.
Aguilar has been good, but he struggled in that second half against Georgia. Needs a winning moment against a really good team.
 
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Aguilar has been good, but he struggled in that second half against Georgia. Needs a winning moment against a really good team.
With all of the non-con games early in the season, we still have way too many undefeated teams for the picture to clarify. They wanted to anoint Nussmeier after he beat future playoff team, Clemson. That didn't age well. It will still be a few weeks before contenders start self-identifying as pretenders.
 
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I firmly believe what made him special is being coached out of him this year. He looks timid, unsure and indecisive back there. Some of that is the sieve on an OL he has to play behind too.
This is what leads me to believe is he INJURED
 

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Aguilar has been good, but he struggled in that second half against Georgia. Needs a winning moment against a really good team.
Yeah, there's no clear-cut player out there right now. Everyone has a "but" factor. Mateer was at the top of a lot of boards, but now he's going down with surgery for a few weeks.
 

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It would explain the hesitency to run. I haven't seen anything other than the concussion, just saying it could make sense.
My conspiracy theory is that he's consciously running less b/c the knock on him this offseason is that he was a runner first and not a strong passer, so he's trying to show that off more for the scouts.
 

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My conspiracy theory is that he's consciously running less b/c the knock on him this offseason is that he was a runner first and not a strong passer, so he's trying to show that off more for the scouts.
I think the difference is that opposing DCs know how to defend him better.
 
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My conspiracy theory is that he's consciously running less b/c the knock on him this offseason is that he was a runner first and not a strong passer, so he's trying to show that off more for the scouts.

Oh, I could agree to that readily. That is a story we've seen before in college football too.

Im just saying a nagging injury that we aren't publicizing could also be an explanation. That adds the additional benefit of our OC not being an idiot who is sacrificing winnable games just to help his qb's drafted status.
 

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I think the difference is that opposing DCs know how to defend him better.

He hasn't been quite the dynamic player he was since the Clemson game. As bad as our coaches are, I don't think they'd intentionally bridle Sellers, knowing he gives us our best shot. I think Illinois just stifled him. He was fantastic in the Clemson game and took advantage of them overpursuing at times. Bielema adjusted to that.
 

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Oh, I could agree to that readily. That is a story we've seen before in college football too.

Im just saying a nagging injury that we aren't publicizing could also be an explanation. That adds the additional benefit of our OC not being an idiot who is sacrificing winnable games just to help his qb's drafted status.
With NIL and the portal, coaches should not concern themselves with a player's draft status or injury if that injury doesn't limit the player's ability to compete on game day. Players are employees who are paid to perform at their best for their team while they are at the college program. A player's future in the NFL should not matter at all to a college coach and because a player can leave at any time, the college coaches should get maximum benefit from the player while he is on the team.
 

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With NIL and the portal, coaches should not concern themselves with a player's draft status or injury if that injury doesn't limit the player's ability to compete on game day. Players are employees who are paid to perform at their best for their team while they are at the college program. A player's future in the NFL should not matter at all to a college coach and because a player can leave at any time, the college coaches should get maximum benefit from the player while he is on the team.

Agree. But a little disappointed. It's the notion that players are simply employees now.

Never will like that.
 

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Agree. But a little disappointed. It's the notion that players are simply employees now.

Never will like that.
I don't like it either but it is the reality of college football today. This is what the players demanded, they need to understand they got what they asked for and not be upset when they are viewed as cogs in a machine.

The programs want the fans to fork over money to pay the players. Fans are directly paying the players now. The fans have a right to demand a return on their investment in the players. Players who don't perform need to be fired and replaced. The days of the fans feeling emotional attachment to the players because they were playing for the love of the school and the game (even if that was a thinly veiled disguise) should be over. Players are now hired guns paid to deliver.