He's transferring again. I'm sure he will get some major conference looks. What could have been...
Rapolas Ivanauskas
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My thoughts exactly! Unless bridges were burnt with CCC’s staff...I guess he technically could transfer back to NU as a grad student.
Is he getting a 6th year of eligibility? Seems like he's been around a long time?? It would be interesting if he transferred to a BIG school and played against NU. My bet is that he goes to the IVY league for a Master's degree and his last year of playing college bball.
He chose it to begin with. Anyway, it could be in Barrow, Alaska, but when you fit a system that well and your ability and stats show the results, why in the world would you walk away? From a basketball standpoint, I think it’s a mistake, unless there’s under some underlying reasons we don’t know about (grades, relationship with coach/teammates etc).
The transfer portal has become beyond commonplace...I am still not comfortable with it...Neither am I sure what the best solution is that is both fair for the individual and the university....and we are moving towards just open transfer,correct ? as my name implies Iam also a Loyola fan and also follow the Valley.....recently Liam Robbins a 7 ft center transferred from Drake to Minny.(not a grad transfer)...when he started at Drake he was a skinny fairly inconsequential big guy...during his time at Drake...he developed physically into just a mountain of a man, developed a 3 point shot and some pretty good skills at the low post......he became the key to their resurgence and then left...and leaves Drake high and dry....and now I am waiting for others to leave as they will think they are not going to be as competitive and may effect recruiting for the same reason...and my gut tells me that Drake who was climbing the hill will roll back down...but on the other hand they may find a great transfer to replace him???? but my point is that Drake invested a lot in this guy and certainly was responsible in good part to helping him develop to a player that U of Minnesota wanted.....and now they ,I think, are going to get nothing in return...
I have a hard time finding the fairness center in this transfer dilemma ? .
I have a hard time finding the fairness center in this transfer dilemma ? .
I've been rooting for Rap while at Colgate and have been happy with his success. I question this move for him though. To me, he was a classic example of a guy that could be a great player at a place like Colgate (which he has been), but would struggle playing in a tougher conference like the B1G, ACC, or Big East.
I will of course root him for no matter what, just don't know how much success he will have if he transfers to a school in a major conference.
I will of course root him for no matter what, just don't know how much success he will have if he transfers to a school in a major conference.
Will be interesting to see how Robbins does at Minnesota. Being that Drake is less than two miles from my house, I saw him play a few times this year. He's not overly athletic and I think still needs to fill out more. But he's pretty crafty around the hoop and has a big wing span. Not sure if his skills translate to being a starter in the Big Ten, but we shall see.
I see your overall point though. I root for Drake some since they are the nearby school, and this no doubt will hurt them as they look towards next season.
We never apply this logic when a program hires a coach who then gets a bigger job. The program just has to hire another coach.
We had the same situation at Idaho State — brought in a 7-footer who averaged one point a game as a senior in high school. Redshirted a year and eventually grad transferred to Utah. Kid worked his butt off to become a player that the PAC-12 wanted. Sure the ISU coaches were upset. But if Utah offered them a head coaching job, they’d be gone in a heart beat.
The NCAA was going to vote this month on allowing every player one free transfer. It was likely to pass before the virus craziness, but I don’t know if they will vote now, or if it will pass if they do. But I have no problem with players having more opportunity to play at a higher level if they work hard, stay academically eligible and out of trouble. Sure it’s going to impact lower level programs like Drake and Idaho State, but the NCAA always says it’s all about what’s best for the “student athletes.” To me having an opportunity to play at the highest level is “best.”
The NCAA was going to vote this month on allowing every player one free transfer. It was likely to pass before the virus craziness, but I don’t know if they will vote now, or if it will pass if they do. But I have no problem with players having more opportunity to play at a higher level if they work hard, stay academically eligible and out of trouble. Sure it’s going to impact lower level programs like Drake and Idaho State, but the NCAA always says it’s all about what’s best for the “student athletes.” To me having an opportunity to play at the highest level is “best.”
I tend to agree with the sentiments here. I might see it differently if he hadn't started out at a major conference school, but he already had an unsuccesful stint at NU.
The big factor here is the gross overvaluing of grad transfers. It's a completely inflated market. In the past, for instance, would Duke have ever taken on a player who averaged 11 points at an Ivy League school? They just did that. If you look at the grad transfers each year, a small number of them actually turn into big contributors at major conference schools.
The big factor here is the gross overvaluing of grad transfers. It's a completely inflated market. In the past, for instance, would Duke have ever taken on a player who averaged 11 points at an Ivy League school? They just did that. If you look at the grad transfers each year, a small number of them actually turn into big contributors at major conference schools.
Yeah, but they understand that's part of the business. Why are players not encouraged to seek better opportunities, especially when they're limited to four years of playing time? It's up to the individual program to convince a player or a coach that staying is in his best interest. Collins persuaded Drew Crawford and Vic Law not to grad transfer when both could have gone to bigger schools.
One thing if they have graduated but have to wonder about if it is best for those that have not.
What's also not really discussed is that for the most part the P5 schools are also the most academically prestigious. So if a kid can use basketball to transfer from Evansville to Northwestern (Ryan Taylor) or UW-Milwaukee to UW-Madison more power to him. Given that 99% aren't going pro, it can certainly help in the long run.
I’d love for him to be transferring for academic reasons. To get a degree from a college as good as he can get. But I sense that does not happen much.