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WI#1Dukie22

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Mom may be a bit bitter but wow Rasheed has handled it well. Atleast publicly which is what counts. I will be rooting hard for Rasheed. Sorry for him that he couldn't finish his career for Duke but ya gotta think it will end up being a priceless life lesson.

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Although I think he could have handled his issues with Coach K better, I understand a lot of his frustration with his time at Duke. I think Coach K and Sheed both could have handled some things differently. Either way, even though he is one of my favorites at Duke, I am glad that he was kicked off the team. I don't think we win the title with him.
 
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OldasdirtDevil

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I don't know all the particulars of why 'Sheed was dismissed, and I doubt we'll ever know all the details. But it seems there were numerous times (if I remember correctly) that he was a source of division with his outbursts, and comments in the locker room. So, it wasn't an isolated incident that propelled K to dismiss him from the team, but an accumulation.

As far as the on going sexual allegations, was that a part of it? It didn't help matters, and maybe it was the straw that broke the camel's back. But it was a no win situation for Duke and Coach K. He was damned for cutting him loose without more evidence, and he was damned even harder for not cutting him loose earlier...even without evidence. That was K hater paradise...a win-win.

Ultimately K had to make a difficult decision and do what was best for the team, school, and himself. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I think Rasheed had anger management problems associated with his competitiveness, and it finally reached the point where it couldn't be ignored. Being a leader requires making tough calls, and that's what K did imo.

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Mom speak at its finest. She's just salty that he got released. I doubt she knows the whole story anyway. But I do like Sheed and hope he does great
 
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As a teacher and coach (as well as a father), I can say with confidence that parents can be exceptionally naive when dealing with their own children. I haven't listened so I don't know if that is what is happening here. She is probably being a mom, with the inherent desire to place the lion's share on the blame on anyone but her child.
 
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crazyduke3

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I'm not gonna go in too hard on his mom. Mothers will die for their sons. Of course she is going to go to bat for him. Are we surprised she has hard feelings about it and maybe even him? I'm not. Being a parent and having to see her son go through what he did must have been incredibly difficult. There may be a hint of truth in some of the things she says, as to what, I don't know and I know I'm gonna get killed over saying that.

Likewise, she doesn't at all seem to concede that Rasheed was guilty of doing any wrong. No "I know my son could have done better" "I know that there were wiser choices he could have made" She tries to illustrate him not backing down as courageous and being true to himself. I think another way of looking at is not being selfless and doing what the coach tells you to do. Quinn Cook had this issue for 3 years. He then became completely selfless and listened to everything coach said and look how his legacy is suddenly defined as.

Lastly I'll say these two things quickly....

It wasn't Rasheed himself he went public and said this, so let's not blame him. I still think he's a good guy.

And finally this will always make me think of Rasheed as family, no matter what.....

 
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OldasdirtDevil

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crazyduke3 said:
I'm not gonna go in too hard on his mom. Mothers will die for their sons. Of course she is going to go to bat for him. Are we surprised she has hard feelings about it and maybe even him? I'm not. Being a parent and having to see her son go through what he did must have been incredibly difficult. There may be a hint of truth in some of the things she says, as to what, I don't know and I know I'm gonna get killed over saying that.

Likewise, she doesn't at all seem to concede that Rasheed was guilty of doing any wrong. No "I know my son could have done better" "I know that there were wiser choices he could have made" She tries to illustrate him not backing down as courageous and being true to himself. I think another way of looking at is not being selfless and doing what the coach tells you to do. Quinn Cook had this issue for 3 years. He then became completely selfless and listened to everything coach said and look how his legacy is suddenly defined as.

Lastly I'll say these two things quickly....

It wasn't Rasheed himself he went public and said this, so let's not blame him. I still think he's a good guy.

And finally this will always make me think of Rasheed as family, no matter what.....

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Now that's an excellent post, Crazyduke.

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K-oach Q

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Lost me at "it's a privlage to have Rasheed!"

I'd imagine the family as well as himself really believe that and there in lies the foundation of most of his problems.

Speaking from experience..coaching people like that are time consuming and exhausting.

Sometimes it's best to just move on.....
 
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I really don't have the slightest issue with anything the mom says. She may be bitter and she may have blind spots about her child, but that's completely reasonable. All parents do, and frankly, if that's a side effect of caring about your kids, all parents should have some blind spots about their kids. Until it escalates to something that threatens someone's job or reputation, or indicates a lawsuit is looming, it's something that should be understood and tolerated, if not

I hope K doesn't respond to a bit of it. That would be the gracious thing to do. It would look petty and insecure to nitpick over any of it. It was the first time in his entire tenure at Duke that he has had to dismiss someone. It was clearly an unusual, drastic measure and a difficult decision, and difficult decisions usually don't go down smoothly with everyone. When he made that decision, he had to have been prepared to deal with some fallout, and to consider that fallout the lesser of two unpleasant options.
 
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denniden

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dattier, I get what you are saying and I too like that Sheeds mother is sticking up for him. She should. I do think that she went about this wrong. I know she is defensive and all, but being the only player K has dismissed as a head coach is fairly telling something was seriously wrong.

I remember growing up in a different time where we did have to accept the consequences for our actions and if I was wrong, my mother made sure I knew I was wrong.
 
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skysdad

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OldasdirtDevil said:
Now that's an excellent post, Crazyduke.

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I agree with Crazyduke about this. She just loves her son unconditionally. What I don't understand is why she waited so long to make a statement. I also wonder what Sheed has told her about the whole situation. Somehow I get the feeling that Sheed just wants to go on with his life and put the thing behind him. I wonder how HOF Coach Roy Williams would have handled it. Would he have kicked his player off the team like Coach K did. Maybe so I don't know. There's been investigation after investigation about the sexual assault allegations and nothing has come of it. It is a well known fact that Sheed was a distraction with his inabiity to accept his role and his failure to control his emotions. Remember the Elon game when he got rough with the Elon player. That was all Sheed. Remember the game when he got plenty of pt and never attempted a shot despite being wide open. I think he purposely refused to take a shot to show up Coach K. He sulked a lot and IMO wasn't as good a player as a junior as he was a freshman and just didn't do well with the added talent coming in both his soph and junior years. Perhaps a transfer after his soph. year would have been best. IMO Silent G., Semi and Murphy made the decision to leave due to the high probability that pt minutes were to become harder to get. Silent G. it seems made a good decision as he has become one of Syracuse's top players. Murphy's stats are no better than they were at Duke and we will see about Semi and how things work out for him at SMU where it looks like the program will be taking a hit. Kind of gotten of topic here but we're Duke and our critics are looking for anything to discredit our program. THR as a whole are excited about Sheed's mom and her quote but the one's over there that have some sense no that there is nothing there. OFC
 
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LetsGoDuke301

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I wish Rasheed Sulaiman the best in life. Despite him being a twerp and his mother's opinions. I don't pretend to know everything that happened leading up to his dismissal, but I am sure it was warranted. I think HE has handled the situation very professionally and we should judge him accordingly.
 
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The Duke posters are just a classy bunch of fans. Go to the THR site and read the comments from the stupid Hole fans and you'll see what I mean. TPSKAPFS (we are a cheating family), Steat and the clown Keysersosay are some really hateful and jealous fans. Keysersosay is so full of hate he should be in prison.
 
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HuffyJB

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I don't think anyone is begrudging a mom for standing up for her son. But there is nothing wrong with a full understanding of context, speaker, and purpose.

I have no ill will toward Sulaimon whatsoever, and I hope he has a good year. Things didn't work out and that is unfortunate, but ultimately part of life sometimes. Maybe his next path will go smoother.
 
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I don't have any ill will towards him either, but he wasn't kicked off Mike Krzyzewski's team for no reason. His on court outbursts were surely shadowed by similar outbursts in practices and in the locker room. Kinda funny THR was seeing his on court antics as well back then calling him a psycho , saying he was going to burst any any time and yadda yadda yadda. Now he's a saint over there, cut a raw deal by the evil K. Piss off you saddened pack of intolerant cheats. That crowd is so embarrassed by their fallen "Carolina Way" they jump on any trivial thing that pops up like a pack of skinny Hyenas on a piece of rotted meat. Coach K made the correct decision. It surely looks like Sheed knows that as well. Perhaps the young man will learn from it.
 
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Who cares what THR says, they are insanely jealous of what K & Duke have accomplished while their holier than thou image has dissipated. Even if they remain Top 5 all season the narrative will focus on "will Heels be banned from tourney". LOL

As for Sheed, that ship has sailed. Heels fans were calling for him to be dismissed from school but now Sheed received a raw deal. This from fans whose program handed out A's like napkins. I really used to respect UNC but the academic scandal and how the admin handled it erased everything.
 
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Showenuff said:
I don't have any ill will towards him either, but he wasn't kicked off Mike Krzyzewski's team for no reason. His on court outbursts were surely shadowed by similar outbursts in practices and in the locker room...Coach K made the correct decision. It surely looks like Sheed knows that as well. Perhaps the young man will learn from it.
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I agree. I felt a little bad for him his soph year, at least early on, but well before he was dismissed I'd grown sick of his act. I respect those who feel differently, who saw him as "spirited" and Laettner-esque in his chippiness, and I think it's appropriate for them to continue to say so when he comes up.

While I trust that K's decision was necessary, by no means am I glad he was dismissed. It was a sad occasion. I don't rub it in when others speak up about him with fondness. This is one of only a handful of times I've expressed dislike of his visible behaviors since he has been dismissed.
 
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dukiejay

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The rhetoric of UNC fans regarding this situation is predictable. That's all I'll say.

As has already been said, Rasheed's mom is going to go to bat for her son. That's fine and dandy. But her not even acknowledging that Rasheed could have had some fault almost diminishes her argument. Her son, one of my favorite players of the last decade, was the first Duke basketball player to ever be dismissed by Coach K in 35 years of coaching at Duke. EVER. I think that says something.

All coaches, whether they be K, Roy, Cal, whoever....have traits that by some could deem undesirable. Especially if you're a rival, then those traits are only magnified to fit your perception. Coach K's reputation as both a coach and a mentor to his former players, current players and NBA stars is one that is unparalleled by anyone....ever. Again....I think that says something.

Not all of us are compatible or the same. We all have different things that drive us. It also means we might not see eye-to-eye a lot and could create tension. That's a part of everyday life. All of us, whether in athletics, scholastically, in our professions, you name it....we've clashed and haven't meshed with certain people. Rasheed isn't the first player that may have been difficult for Coach K, and I'm sure Coach K has been tough on players prior to Rasheed. But not everyone reacts the same.

I wish Rasheed the best of luck and hope he goes off for 30 against the Heels in December.
 
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I have no idea why Coach Krzyzewski kicked him off the team, although I got a feel for it in this thread. Whatever it was, it seems like Rasheed has accepted it. Here at Maryland he's had nothing but praise for Duke, K and the program there. His tone indicates that he has regrets and accepts responsibility for whatever happened.
 
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dconifer said:
I have no idea why Coach Krzyzewski kicked him off the team, although I got a feel for it in this thread. Whatever it was, it seems like Rasheed has accepted it. Here at Maryland he's had nothing but praise for Duke, K and the program there. His tone indicates that he has regrets and accepts responsibility for whatever happened.
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That's good to hear. Wish the best for him.

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dconifer said:
I have no idea why Coach Krzyzewski kicked him off the team, although I got a feel for it in this thread. Whatever it was, it seems like Rasheed has accepted it. Here at Maryland he's had nothing but praise for Duke, K and the program there. His tone indicates that he has regrets and accepts responsibility for whatever happened.
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If you get the Rasheed as a freshman as far as the attitude goes then he will make Md. a much better team Teams know now that he can be easily rattled and will test him. It's up to him on how he reacts. OFC
 
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No one will fault a mother for sticking up for her child. I hope that her venting was cathartic for her, but I kind of doubt it.

The only thing that I would say that should have been done different was if this behavior was consistent during his term at Duke it should have been dealt with a lot earlier.

Also also hope that Rasheed has an awesome year. I will now be checking the box scores for the MD games. Hope it lights it up!
 
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dukiejay

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I think it became more consistent and was dealt with behind closed doors until there was just no more that could be done. Thus, the dismissal.
 
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timo0402

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LTDukeFan said:
No one will fault a mother for sticking up for her child. I hope that her venting was cathartic for her, but I kind of doubt it.

The only thing that I would say that should have been done different was if this behavior was consistent during his term at Duke it should have been dealt with a lot earlier.

Also also hope that Rasheed has an awesome year. I will now be checking the box scores for the MD games. Hope it lights it up!
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It was consistent. He was almost removed from the team before last season even began. They ran out of options with him.
 
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I wish his mother would show the maturity Rasheed has shown since the dismissal. I think it is silly when parents of athletes start speaking to the media, i.e. Marshawn Lynch's mom calling for the firing of the offensive coordinator.
 
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Dattier said:
I agree. I felt a little bad for him his soph year, at least early on, but well before he was dismissed I'd grown sick of his act. I respect those who feel differently, who saw him as "spirited" and Laettner-esque in his chippiness, and I think it's appropriate for them to continue to say so when he comes up.

While I trust that K's decision was necessary, by no means am I glad he was dismissed. It was a sad occasion. I don't rub it in when others speak up about him with fondness. This is one of only a handful of times I've expressed dislike of his visible behaviors since he has been dismissed.
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Did I mention how very glad I am to have you back at this board Datt? Good to see you my friend.
 
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dukiejay

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I wish Rasheed had been able to stick it out at Duke. Still love the kid.

If he keeps his head in check, he's the kind of player who could push Maryland over the edge and get them back to a Final Four.
 
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dconifer said:
Maryland would not have won Tuesday night without Rasheed Sulaimon. Everybody in College Park is talking about his growing leadership role (and his lockdown defense). As to the tangibles, here are his numbers from the tight win over Georgetown:

37 minutes played
4/6 shooting (2/2 from three) for ten points
2 rebounds
7 assists
1 steal

http://maryland.247sports.com/Artic...ness-Leadership-Void-early-for-Terps-41188407
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I don't think anyone ever doubted Sheed's talent. He's obviously motivated now and I'd expect will make a big impact on Maryland. It's unfortunate he's no longer part of the program (as he'd likely be the starting point if he were), but decisions had to be made for the betterment of the program.
 
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timo0402 said:
Wish nothing but the best for Sheed. Hope he keeps his head on straight and continues to ball.
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x3 I like Sheed A LOT!!! I hope he has a great year and I know most of y'all hate Maryland but if we can't win the title this year I really would have no problem with them doing so
 
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skysdad

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I find myself hoping he does well. Even if we play Md. I hope he plays well but loses. OFC
 
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