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Crablegs1

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Taylor and Zahid both beat Bo. Why is he doing this? Didn’t like getting beat up?
 

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Taylor and Zahid both beat Bo. Why is he doing this? Didn’t like getting beat up?
I believe he has the energy and drive, could stand two paychecks…and he hasn’t given up on himself in either sport.

… I think his best chance of winning… if such thing existed… would be “Real American Folkstyle”!
 

Crablegs1

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Bo hasn't left MMA.
I know, but any time he spends training for this wrestling event is a waste of time he needs to train MMA. I was leading the Bo UFC bandwagon, but after seeing his last fight and now dipping his toes back into wrestling, I’m losing confidence. It’s a waste of time for him to divide his attention. He has a looooong way to go in MMA to be wasting his time with this.
 
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I know, but any time he spends training for this wrestling event is a waste of time he needs to train MMA. I was leading the Bo UFC bandwagon, but after seeing his last fight and now dipping his toes back into wrestling, I’m losing confidence. It’s a waste of time for him to divide his attention. He has a looooong way to go in MMA to be wasting his time with this.
At his current age, Bo only has so much time to capitalize on another opportunity to make money doing something he loves.
 
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amattaro

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Rumor that Willie and Palacio gonna play tummy sticks. TBD if that is intermission or main event.
 

El_Jefe

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Palacio is long overdue for a smackdown. Easily among the most irritating and useless people on wrestling social media.

No question, the Andy Bernard character was based on him.

 

Throwfor5

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Sounds like Nickal will wrestle on Aug 30 at RAF and fight in UFC 322 in November at MSG
 

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Zeb Miller interviews Saylor, Google Gemini AI summary here:

This video discusses the launch of Real American Freestyle (RAF) wrestling in Cleveland, Ohio.
Key points include:
  • Cleveland as the Host City [00:33]: Cleveland was chosen due to Hulk Hogan's business partner, Chad Bronstein, being from the area and having a wrestling background.
  • Support for Cleveland Wrestling [01:16]: RAF is committed to supporting the Cleveland community, recognizing it as a "hotbed" for wrestling [01:30].
  • Strategic Market Choice [02:46]: Cleveland is considered a good medium-sized market for a new venture like RAF, aligning with the city's "blue-collar" DNA [03:00].
  • RAF's Viability and Team [03:28]: RAF is expected to succeed due to its professional team of entrepreneurs with extensive experience.
  • Key Personnel [04:38]: Eric Bischoff is involved in storytelling and production, and Willie Saylor helps with matchups and storylines [04:47].
  • Emphasis on Storytelling [05:30]: RAF plans to focus heavily on storytelling, with Eric Bischoff's team actively producing content.
 

jtothemfp

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Quad Pod bros, Claunch, Wendell, Sommer & Holmes, talk RAF:
  • RAF (Real American Freestyle) [01:03:56]: The hosts discuss the new professional wrestling league, expressing optimism for its success and sustainability. Concerns are raised about the initial financial investment and the lack of announced rules and scoring formats [01:05:27]. The first card features notable matchups, and the hosts discuss the idea of a draft system and team-based leagues [01:12:06].
You can watch the video at .
 
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The fake **** talking between RAFers is embarrassing.
I think it’s entirely the point/hope though. Bring some of that Vince McMahon magic with storylines to an actual competition. Remains to be seen if it will work. I was never that into WWE, etc, so I tend to agree with you. But if it can create a larger audience then I guess I’m for it.
 

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People taking AI as absolutely reality is as bad as folks believing Google is truth. Like, no one questions either. What happened to critical thinking? Why do folks automatically believe what they see as gospel? Why? Because they're lazy.

Well, I just asked 3 different AI platforms to assess your comment and all 3 said you are not credible. They also gratuitously added that you know nothing about horses and your shoes are NOT really hot.
 

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Well, I just asked 3 different AI platforms to assess your comment and all 3 said you are not credible. They also gratuitously added that you know nothing about horses and your shoes are NOT really hot.
Pure....Awesomeness!
 
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I just saw it was just announced that the streaming service Fox Nation is the exclusive broadcaster of RAF. I was hoping I could watch it without having to subscribe to yet another streaming service.
 

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So, a little bit of a long story that ends up being relevant to this:

My best buddy from college is "kinda" in the card industry. He's just a collector, but he's the kind of guy who is always on social media and the like, and he got hooked up with some card people who are associated with local sports celebrities. I don't pay much attention to this; he's always inviting me to some Eagles or Sixers players' charity event - I always decline, but he just keeps inviting me. Like I said, he's my best buddy, lol.

He's also very big into MMA. He used to be a big boxing fan when we were younger, and now has switched to MMA as it has gained popularity. Well, a few years ago, just as Bo was getting into MMA, I told him that this guy you know nothing about is going to be a big deal in a couple of years. I told him Bo has the pedigree, plus he's got the personality that they are going to promote. So, my buddy went out and located a Bo wrestling card and got it. After a couple of MMA fights, he put one of them up on eBay - I think it was a Sports Illustrated card insert of Bo at PSU or something like that.

Well, Bo contacts him to buy the card from him, and instead of selling it to Bo, my buddy gives it to him in exchange for Bo letting my buddy's kid do a short video on Bo working out at his MMA gym. My buddy's kid was a film major and now does freelance stuff for the Sixers and was trying to build his portfolio. So they start this relationship, and my buddy hooks him up with a local guy who does artistic cards, and that's where the Bo "Immortals" card comes from. (NOTE: I was gifted a box of these from the artist when they came out to promote this, I think, but I still haven't opened it or really even looked at it, it's not really my thing. Maybe they'll be worth something someday, lol. )

So my buddy becomes the biggest Bo Nickal fan in the world, goes up to see him do his podcasts occasionally, stuff like that.
Always inviting me, but I never go. I can't see driving 8 hours round trip just to stand around for a couple of hours watching Bo and Cassar or whoever talk about stuff. And he went to see him fight up in MSG, etc.

Well, anyway, to the point of my story. Bo texts my buddy that he's going to be in the RAF, and my buddy calls me up and says we have to get tickets, his wife is still going to be in Italy with her family that weekend, we can road trip out there, this is a wrestling thing, so you'll love it, etc., etc. So, I'm thinking - yeah, this is probably something that I'd like to do, road trip out there with him, watch a little wrestling, eat a good dinner, have some drinks, maybe visit the pro football HOF on our way there or back (I've never been) or do something else cool by Lake Erie.

He wants to buy the tickets that day. Only like $250-$300 per seat, he says, and we can be right in front, it's a great deal. I'm like, WOAH, this is wrestling we're talking about. Let me check this out. Sometimes the floor seats are no good if it's on a raised mat, $300 seems pretty pricey for this event, etc., etc. He says to me, "No way, we've got to buy these tickets before Bo announces. Once he announces, all the seats are going to go right away." I start laughing and tell him he may know MMA, but he doesn't know squat about wrestling. Dan Hodge (from the grave), Dan Gable, and Cael could all announce they were singlet-ing up for this event, and they're not selling this out or even getting close. It's not NCAAs and it's not even States.

A couple of weeks ago, he called me and told me I'm right - the tickets are barely moving. I told him we'll wait until the week of to buy - if we buy at all. I'm not sure if I really want to go or if I would rather watch PSU-Nevada instead of watching this event with only a couple of hundred people in the gym (probably half of them competitors and support staff). Last time I was in that arena, Cleveland State-Binghamton had more attendance than this looks like it's going to have. And that dual probably had a lot more atmosphere in terms of fandom. Seriously. My buddy just doesn't get it.
 

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So, a little bit of a long story that ends up being relevant to this:

My best buddy from college is "kinda" in the card industry. He's just a collector, but he's the kind of guy who is always on social media and the like, and he got hooked up with some card people who are associated with local sports celebrities. I don't pay much attention to this; he's always inviting me to some Eagles or Sixers players' charity event - I always decline, but he just keeps inviting me. Like I said, he's my best buddy, lol.

He's also very big into MMA. He used to be a big boxing fan when we were younger, and now has switched to MMA as it has gained popularity. Well, a few years ago, just as Bo was getting into MMA, I told him that this guy you know nothing about is going to be a big deal in a couple of years. I told him Bo has the pedigree, plus he's got the personality that they are going to promote. So, my buddy went out and located a Bo wrestling card and got it. After a couple of MMA fights, he put one of them up on eBay - I think it was a Sports Illustrated card insert of Bo at PSU or something like that.

Well, Bo contacts him to buy the card from him, and instead of selling it to Bo, my buddy gives it to him in exchange for Bo letting my buddy's kid do a short video on Bo working out at his MMA gym. My buddy's kid was a film major and now does freelance stuff for the Sixers and was trying to build his portfolio. So they start this relationship, and my buddy hooks him up with a local guy who does artistic cards, and that's where the Bo "Immortals" card comes from. (NOTE: I was gifted a box of these from the artist when they came out to promote this, I think, but I still haven't opened it or really even looked at it, it's not really my thing. Maybe they'll be worth something someday, lol. )

So my buddy becomes the biggest Bo Nickal fan in the world, goes up to see him do his podcasts occasionally, stuff like that.
Always inviting me, but I never go. I can't see driving 8 hours round trip just to stand around for a couple of hours watching Bo and Cassar or whoever talk about stuff. And he went to see him fight up in MSG, etc.

Well, anyway, to the point of my story. Bo texts my buddy that he's going to be in the RAF, and my buddy calls me up and says we have to get tickets, his wife is still going to be in Italy with her family that weekend, we can road trip out there, this is a wrestling thing, so you'll love it, etc., etc. So, I'm thinking - yeah, this is probably something that I'd like to do, road trip out there with him, watch a little wrestling, eat a good dinner, have some drinks, maybe visit the pro football HOF on our way there or back (I've never been) or do something else cool by Lake Erie.

He wants to buy the tickets that day. Only like $250-$300 per seat, he says, and we can be right in front, it's a great deal. I'm like, WOAH, this is wrestling we're talking about. Let me check this out. Sometimes the floor seats are no good if it's on a raised mat, $300 seems pretty pricey for this event, etc., etc. He says to me, "No way, we've got to buy these tickets before Bo announces. Once he announces, all the seats are going to go right away." I start laughing and tell him he may know MMA, but he doesn't know squat about wrestling. Dan Hodge (from the grave), Dan Gable, and Cael could all announce they were singlet-ing up for this event, and they're not selling this out or even getting close. It's not NCAAs and it's not even States.

A couple of weeks ago, he called me and told me I'm right - the tickets are barely moving. I told him we'll wait until the week of to buy - if we buy at all. I'm not sure if I really want to go or if I would rather watch PSU-Nevada instead of watching this event with only a couple of hundred people in the gym (probably half of them competitors and support staff). Last time I was in that arena, Cleveland State-Binghamton had more attendance than this looks like it's going to have. And that dual probably had a lot more atmosphere in terms of fandom. Seriously. My buddy just doesn't get it.

You getting any younger? Do it! It's your best buddy and it's wrestling.
 

Throwfor5

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So, a little bit of a long story that ends up being relevant to this:

My best buddy from college is "kinda" in the card industry. He's just a collector, but he's the kind of guy who is always on social media and the like, and he got hooked up with some card people who are associated with local sports celebrities. I don't pay much attention to this; he's always inviting me to some Eagles or Sixers players' charity event - I always decline, but he just keeps inviting me. Like I said, he's my best buddy, lol.

He's also very big into MMA. He used to be a big boxing fan when we were younger, and now has switched to MMA as it has gained popularity. Well, a few years ago, just as Bo was getting into MMA, I told him that this guy you know nothing about is going to be a big deal in a couple of years. I told him Bo has the pedigree, plus he's got the personality that they are going to promote. So, my buddy went out and located a Bo wrestling card and got it. After a couple of MMA fights, he put one of them up on eBay - I think it was a Sports Illustrated card insert of Bo at PSU or something like that.

Well, Bo contacts him to buy the card from him, and instead of selling it to Bo, my buddy gives it to him in exchange for Bo letting my buddy's kid do a short video on Bo working out at his MMA gym. My buddy's kid was a film major and now does freelance stuff for the Sixers and was trying to build his portfolio. So they start this relationship, and my buddy hooks him up with a local guy who does artistic cards, and that's where the Bo "Immortals" card comes from. (NOTE: I was gifted a box of these from the artist when they came out to promote this, I think, but I still haven't opened it or really even looked at it, it's not really my thing. Maybe they'll be worth something someday, lol. )

So my buddy becomes the biggest Bo Nickal fan in the world, goes up to see him do his podcasts occasionally, stuff like that.
Always inviting me, but I never go. I can't see driving 8 hours round trip just to stand around for a couple of hours watching Bo and Cassar or whoever talk about stuff. And he went to see him fight up in MSG, etc.

Well, anyway, to the point of my story. Bo texts my buddy that he's going to be in the RAF, and my buddy calls me up and says we have to get tickets, his wife is still going to be in Italy with her family that weekend, we can road trip out there, this is a wrestling thing, so you'll love it, etc., etc. So, I'm thinking - yeah, this is probably something that I'd like to do, road trip out there with him, watch a little wrestling, eat a good dinner, have some drinks, maybe visit the pro football HOF on our way there or back (I've never been) or do something else cool by Lake Erie.

He wants to buy the tickets that day. Only like $250-$300 per seat, he says, and we can be right in front, it's a great deal. I'm like, WOAH, this is wrestling we're talking about. Let me check this out. Sometimes the floor seats are no good if it's on a raised mat, $300 seems pretty pricey for this event, etc., etc. He says to me, "No way, we've got to buy these tickets before Bo announces. Once he announces, all the seats are going to go right away." I start laughing and tell him he may know MMA, but he doesn't know squat about wrestling. Dan Hodge (from the grave), Dan Gable, and Cael could all announce they were singlet-ing up for this event, and they're not selling this out or even getting close. It's not NCAAs and it's not even States.

A couple of weeks ago, he called me and told me I'm right - the tickets are barely moving. I told him we'll wait until the week of to buy - if we buy at all. I'm not sure if I really want to go or if I would rather watch PSU-Nevada instead of watching this event with only a couple of hundred people in the gym (probably half of them competitors and support staff). Last time I was in that arena, Cleveland State-Binghamton had more attendance than this looks like it's going to have. And that dual probably had a lot more atmosphere in terms of fandom. Seriously. My buddy just doesn't get it.
Cleveland st wrestled in a gymnasium. RAF will be held at the basketball arena
 

dicemen99

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Cleveland st wrestled in a gymnasium. RAF will be held at the basketball arena
You're right. I was getting it confused with Kent State, which was in their arena. It was a day-night road dual 6 or 7 years ago.