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Ukbrassowtipin

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Anyone else gotten one yet? Seems KY has had the worst rollout as it keeps getting pushed back.

Another nonsensical post 9/11 overreach initially put in close to after that time by the government.
 

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Yes I agree, 20 years after 9/11 seems way too soon for such Marxist actions.
 

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It was signed into law in 2005 you moron

Oh...why was it created..its right here


But in typical fashion another example of govt efficiency that here we are 20 years later

#youtried

Yes I agree, 16 years seems way too soon for such Marxist actions.
On December 17, 2018, President Trump signed the REAL ID Act Modification for Freely Associated States Act, Public Law 115-323. This Act amends the REAL ID Act of 2005 to authorize states to issue full-term REAL ID compliant driver’s licenses and identification cards to citizens of the Federated States of Micronesia, the Republic of Palau, and the Republic of the Marshall Islands (collectively known as the Freely Associated States, or FAS) who have been admitted to the United States as nonimmigrants pursuant to a Compact of Free Association and who meet the identification requirements of the REAL ID Act.
 

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Yes I agree, 16 years seems way too soon for such Marxist actions.
Typical...living a life in a binary. You think you have to agree or disagree with everything based on political party. Sad! So if he signed something I'm unclear how that changes my point. It's Federal overreach started as a sense of false security after 9/11, just how the TSA has never stopped a terrorist attack.

I'm unclear what marxism has to do with anything here. Maybe you can clear that up...unless you again think everything is in some weird binary. The original act was passed under Bush....does this mean ppl are automatically supposed to support it based on political party? I'm getting you support this because why?

#youtried again
 
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Conservatives should be in support of something like this with how they want everyone to have full proof ID for voting.
OT but African Americans, regardless of political party, also overwhelming want voter id...why are you so racist? So do everyday Americans who don't get their news from Trevor noah and Twitter.


It's why democrats changed their tune real quick.

But this is a typical nonsensical comparison. Besides the nuance differences of getting a federal license vs getting an ID card. Not to mention no one ever said you should just be able to walk on a plane without anything...which in the non correlated example is what you would want apparently. Would be like me saying pro choice ppl shouldn't care about ppl who don't get vaccinated bc my body my choice. Not even the same thing.

#closebutnotreally
 

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Typical...living a life in a binary. You think you have to agree or disagree with everything based on political party. Sad! So if he signed something I'm unclear how that changes my point. It's Federal overreach started as a sense of false security after 9/11, just how the TSA has never stopped a terrorist attack.

I'm unclear what marxism has to do with anything here. Maybe you can clear that up...unless you again think everything is in some weird binary. The original act was passed under Bush....does this mean ppl are automatically supposed to support it based on political party? I'm getting you support this because why?

#youtried again
lol
 

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OT but African Americans, regardless of political party, also overwhelming want voter id...why are you so racist? So do everyday Americans who don't get their news from Trevor noah and Twitter.


It's why democrats changed their tune real quick.

But this is a typical nonsensical comparison. Besides the nuance differences of getting a federal license vs getting an ID card. Not to mention no one ever said you should just be able to walk on a plane without anything...which in the non correlated example is what you would want apparently. Would be like me saying pro choice ppl shouldn't care about ppl who don't get vaccinated bc my body my choice. Not even the same thing.

#closebutnotreally
Airlines can more easily assure an ID is not fake if there are fewer versions to deal with - just real ID or passport, not 50+ states & other entities - with higher technology protections.
 
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So you prefer a more fakeable ID to a lesser fakeable ID?

I prefer the federal government not be involved in identifying and granting citizens passes. Considering the weaponization of the intelligence agencies and their tools, our growing subservience to China, and the initial stages of vaccine passports, if you can’t see the slippery slope of federally issued passes and their potential for misuse and abuse then you aren’t paying attention.
 
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I prefer the federal government not be involved in identifying and granting citizens passes. Considering the weaponization of the intelligence agencies and their tools, our growing subservience to China, and the initial stages of vaccine passports, if you can’t see the slippery slope of federally issued passes and their potential for misuse and abuse then you aren’t paying attention.
They know everything about you already. You got something to hide? They have your IP address down to your daily internet algorithms. I prefer blondes and cream pies on pornhub and they know that.
 
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OT but African Americans, regardless of political party, also overwhelming want voter id...why are you so racist? So do everyday Americans who don't get their news from Trevor noah and Twitter.


It's why democrats changed their tune real quick.

But this is a typical nonsensical comparison. Besides the nuance differences of getting a federal license vs getting an ID card. Not to mention no one ever said you should just be able to walk on a plane without anything...which in the non correlated example is what you would want apparently. Would be like me saying pro choice ppl shouldn't care about ppl who don't get vaccinated bc my body my choice. Not even the same thing.

#closebutnotreally
lol at bringing race into a discussion that didn't even include race. Why you got to be making everything about race???
 
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I prefer the federal government not be involved in identifying and granting citizens passes. Considering the weaponization of the intelligence agencies and their tools, our growing subservience to China, and the initial stages of vaccine passports, if you can’t see the slippery slope of federally issued passes and their potential for misuse and abuse then you aren’t paying attention.
So you think the states instead of the federal government should be issuing passports?

ANd if you use anything connected to the internet, which obviously you do given you post on here, private enterprise already has more information on you than they could ever need and 99.9% of them will gladly sell it to the government and other private companies without a second thought.
 
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Having to show an ID to vote.
Yeah I'm not opposed to having to show an ID either. I don't agree with having to pay (for an ID) to practice the constitutional right to vote though. Everyone should be automatically issued an ID (and also registered to vote) for free when they turn 18. It can be a supplement to other licenses, so even if you already have a driver's license, then you can also have this one. Though I would consider not issuing it if you already have other acceptable forms of ID for voting, but acceptable forms of ID vary from state to state (and DC and territories) and this would be one that could be accepted everywhere so it could simplify things in that regard.

Just a simple, government verified ID for voting purposes. If the government and private enterprise deems this ID good enough for other things like traveling, banking, etc. then so be it.
 
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Just look at how people came together after 9/11 and look how they are now. This country was attacked that day by evil people. They intended to destroy this country. Divide us and conquer.

Took longer then they hoped, but it's working today. People are more divided today, maybe moreso than during the Civil War. There is no middle ground, no welcoming of other views or opinions. None.

Division is pushed by the media. Actors and pro athletes are joining the division. Canceling someone for having a different view or belief. It's boiling up and will soon boil over. Anyone who the mob decides has a view that connot be tolerated, the cancellation begins.

They dig up anything they can. Kevin Hart got canceled. Kevin Hart. No idea what believes in or votes for and I don't care. But they do. You must completely abide in their echo chamber or else. It's just insanity.
 
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So you think the states instead of the federal government should be issuing passports?

ANd if you use anything connected to the internet, which obviously you do given you post on here, private enterprise already has more information on you than they could ever need and 99.9% of them will gladly sell it to the government and other private companies without a second thought.

I used the term passes as a term for for ID since it’s being used to grant daily privileges. I should’ve just stuck to identification. To rephrase no, I don’t think the federal gov should be issuing identification for use in daily activities.

True about the private companies. But that doesn’t make it ok or acceptable and is all the more reason to resist the slippery slope of federal IDs that can be influenced by corporations happy to obey any leftist political command.
 

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Yeah I'm not opposed to having to show an ID either. I don't agree with having to pay (for an ID) to practice the constitutional right to vote though. Everyone should be automatically issued an ID (and also registered to vote) for free when they turn 18. It can be a supplement to other licenses, so even if you already have a driver's license, then you can also have this one. Though I would consider not issuing it if you already have other acceptable forms of ID for voting, but acceptable forms of ID vary from state to state (and DC and territories) and this would be one that could be accepted everywhere so it could simplify things in that regard.

Just a simple, government verified ID for voting purposes. If the government and private enterprise deems this ID good enough for other things like traveling, banking, etc. then so be it.
Having a state issued ID should be as important as having a social security number and should be free to everyone. You can choose not to have it but if not, certain privileges will be restricted - including voting.
 
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I prefer the federal government not be involved in identifying and granting citizens passes. Considering the weaponization of the intelligence agencies and their tools, our growing subservience to China, and the initial stages of vaccine passports, if you can’t see the slippery slope of federally issued passes and their potential for misuse and abuse then you aren’t paying attention.
So you have no plans to ever travel outside US, correct?
 

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All the holograms and security watermarks are kinda cool on the Real ID. Much harder to fake than a state ID.

Only hiccup is I had to get a state issued birth certificate.
 
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Nope, still using this.