Iv'e seen where thre is some worry about Houston. No way, these guy's are a little above Tulsa. tOSU should be no problem, I think they lost half their starters. TCU, Baylor and OSU have lost a ton of starters too. I think are biggest threat is Tech at Lubbock. Just my thoughts...................
Regarding the Houston and tOSU game and others..
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That's good.....after all, we didn't lose anyone from last year.
tOSU will reload. Here's their past 4 recruiting classes:
2013 - #2
2014 - #3
2015 - #7
2016 - #4
Urban is legit too.
2013 - #2
2014 - #3
2015 - #7
2016 - #4
Urban is legit too.
and Houston is better than Tulsa. I'd at least give them the mental edge. They are going to come in hyped up & ready to rumble. The question is, can they respond to OU. I think they fight pretty good for a W, but fall short. This is their marquee game for the past upteen years. Expect NRG to be full of Cougar fans from years past. But I also think OU will represent well.
K2C,
I admit I'm a sunshine pumper, but even I know when to tap the brakes. I do love your enthusiasm for the upcoming season, but UH and tOSU are much better teams than what you described. UH completely controlled FSU in the bowl game and brings back much of that team to face OU in Reliant Stadium. Although tOSU will lose several to the NFL and graduation, they are at a point where they reload and not rebuild. Playing them in Norman will be no walk in the park. We do get a pitiful UL Monroe team sandwiched between UH and TOSU, but after that, it's a bye week then conference play at TCU followed by the Payback Game (RRS) in Dallas. A very challenging start to the season has me "cautiously optimistic."
I admit I'm a sunshine pumper, but even I know when to tap the brakes. I do love your enthusiasm for the upcoming season, but UH and tOSU are much better teams than what you described. UH completely controlled FSU in the bowl game and brings back much of that team to face OU in Reliant Stadium. Although tOSU will lose several to the NFL and graduation, they are at a point where they reload and not rebuild. Playing them in Norman will be no walk in the park. We do get a pitiful UL Monroe team sandwiched between UH and TOSU, but after that, it's a bye week then conference play at TCU followed by the Payback Game (RRS) in Dallas. A very challenging start to the season has me "cautiously optimistic."
Thanks for the excellent reply Schooner. Yes, I'm a homer, but I also bet on games. I will tell you today I would take OU by nine over Houston. I would take OU by 14 or so if we played them in Norman. Houston has always been a fine mid-major and last year jumped up to a fine team, with a great coach. They still don't have our depth, never will.
tOSU is a different story. They lost many starters this year. They are coming to our house. I would put the point spread about....well 9..in our favor. We'll see and I can eat crow................
The matchup against the Buckeyes is, imo, one of the biggest games we've had under Bob. We've gained a load of momentum for the program after last season and a W over the Buckeyes and Urban would solidify us as one of the current top 2 or 3 programs in college football.
That's what they said when Pitt came to town with Tony Dorsett. We'll kick their ***. Either that or I'll have to eat crow. I've never ate it before..................HA!
Let's see....Houston went 13-1, beat Florida State in their bowl game, and finished in the Top 10. Clearly they are nothing but a glorified Tulsa.....Lol 
I would put Houston as a more formidable challenge than tOSU....at least right now. tOSU loss a ton off that team. They will be heavily rebuilding/reloading. But they very well could come in rolling after filling their spots with kids that are as good, or better than the kids that left. So the tOSU is more of a mystery for me. Houston has a more proven roster coming back. So that's why I give them the early edge. tOSU will have a couple of games before coming to Norman so we will have a chance to see what they are bringing down.
tOSU is gonna be a HUGE game. I'm trying to think of other non-conference teams coming to Norman during Bob's tenure, and this will be the biggest since Notre Dame came in 2012. Status alone, winning the tOSU game I believe carries alot more weight than the Houston game. But not doubt, OU needs to win both.
I would put Houston as a more formidable challenge than tOSU....at least right now. tOSU loss a ton off that team. They will be heavily rebuilding/reloading. But they very well could come in rolling after filling their spots with kids that are as good, or better than the kids that left. So the tOSU is more of a mystery for me. Houston has a more proven roster coming back. So that's why I give them the early edge. tOSU will have a couple of games before coming to Norman so we will have a chance to see what they are bringing down.
tOSU is gonna be a HUGE game. I'm trying to think of other non-conference teams coming to Norman during Bob's tenure, and this will be the biggest since Notre Dame came in 2012. Status alone, winning the tOSU game I believe carries alot more weight than the Houston game. But not doubt, OU needs to win both.
I think we should beat them but this ain't like Tennessee a couple years ago coming to town.
Let's see....Houston went 13-1, beat Florida State in their bowl game, and finished in the Top 10. Clearly they are nothing but a glorified Tulsa.....Lol
I would put Houston as a more formidable challenge than tOSU....at least right now. tOSU loss a ton off that team. They will be heavily rebuilding/reloading. But they very well could come in rolling after filling their spots with kids that are as good, or better than the kids that left. So the tOSU is more of a mystery for me. Houston has a more proven roster coming back. So that's why I give them the early edge. tOSU will have a couple of games before coming to Norman so we will have a chance to see what they are bringing down.
tOSU is gonna be a HUGE game. I'm trying to think of other non-conference teams coming to Norman during Bob's tenure, and this will be the biggest since Notre Dame came in 2012. Status alone, winning the tOSU game I believe carries alot more weight than the Houston game. But not doubt, OU needs to win both.
Well, I remember Utah beating a very good (edit to Alabama) team and Boise State beating us.....Don't make them any more than a fine Tulsa or Memphis team the last few years.
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Let's see....Houston went 13-1, beat Florida State in their bowl game, and finished in the Top 10. Clearly they are nothing but a glorified Tulsa.....Lol
I would put Houston as a more formidable challenge than tOSU....at least right now. tOSU loss a ton off that team. They will be heavily rebuilding/reloading. But they very well could come in rolling after filling their spots with kids that are as good, or better than the kids that left. So the tOSU is more of a mystery for me. Houston has a more proven roster coming back. So that's why I give them the early edge. tOSU will have a couple of games before coming to Norman so we will have a chance to see what they are bringing down.
tOSU is gonna be a HUGE game. I'm trying to think of other non-conference teams coming to Norman during Bob's tenure, and this will be the biggest since Notre Dame came in 2012. Status alone, winning the tOSU game I believe carries alot more weight than the Houston game. But not doubt, OU needs to win both.
Houston had a fine season for a mid-major. Lost to UConn....LOL. We'll beat them..............
First off, let us know what year Utah beat Florida.
Second, those teams have absolutely zero to do with Houston. I mean I see the connection you are attempting to make here, but that would mean you are basing your post on a massive assumption that what happens at Utah and Boise State, over 10 years ago mind you, directly impacts what happens at Houston in the upcoming season.
Sure they lost to UConn, but hey even Bob Stoops has been known to lay some eggs at times right?? Basing your expectations on Houston on that single game, is ignoring what they did the rest of their season.
I don't see OU having a huge issue beating Houston to start the season. But don't underestimate Houston either. They return a ton of players, will very likely be better, and no doubt they will have the OU game circled on their calendars all summer long.
Don't blow Houston off just because they lost to Uconn last year. When OU fans do things like that, you get a repeat of TCU circa 2005......
First off, let us know what year Utah beat Florida.
Second, those teams have absolutely zero to do with Houston. I mean I see the connection you are attempting to make here, but that would mean you are basing your post on a massive assumption that what happens at Utah and Boise State, over 10 years ago mind you, directly impacts what happens at Houston in the upcoming season.
Sure they lost to UConn, but hey even Bob Stoops has been known to lay some eggs at times right?? Basing your expectations on Houston on that single game, is ignoring what they did the rest of their season.
I don't see OU having a huge issue beating Houston to start the season. But don't underestimate Houston either. They return a ton of players, will very likely be better, and no doubt they will have the OU game circled on their calendars all summer long.
Don't blow Houston off just because they lost to Uconn last year. When OU fans do things like that, you get a repeat of TCU circa 2005......
That's a fine reply. Can you name one backup defensive tackle that Houston will put on the field? ........Nothing? Walker is still listed as a second teamer. Have some faith guy's. This team will be great!
Oh and to answer your question, I can't name an single defensive player on Houston's team. But hey...I couldn't name a single defensive player on Clemson's team prior to OU playing them a few months ago. How did that end up?? So like....not sure where you were going with that....
And yes Utah beat Alabama like 7 years ago. In a game very similar to the Sugar Bowl a few years ago when OU beat Alabama. Alabama that year went into the 2009 Sugar Bowl in a HUGE letdown after failing to make the national title game. But....no matter. It really has zero bearing on OUs game coming up with Houston anyways....
I guess they're due, but FWIW, Mike seems to have Tech figured out, much the same way that Tech seemed to have Brent's number. The only time OU has lost to Tech with Mike as DC was 1999.
- You never heard of Shaq Lawson, DE, or Jerome Kearsey?
Tell this nonsense to Florida State.
Houston is similar to OU....very similar when comparing numbers.
OU scored 566 points and yielded 286 points in 2015.
Houston scored 566 points and yielded 290 points.
Granted, Houston's schedule was not nearly as tough as OU's schedule was. I'm just pointing out almost identical stats.
Both teams had dual option quarterbacks with no dependable backup.
OU was without Mayfield only in the second half of the TCU game...Houston was without Ward an entire game vs UConn. Both games revealed how exposed each team was without its starting QB.
Before we start downplaying teams on the 2016 schedule, it also might be a good idea to note that OU, aside from still having questions regarding depth at QB (a big concern with Mayfield having sustained concussions in 2 of his last 3 games in 2015) also lost heavily at linebacker, has only three proven receivers and has Perine recovering from a leg injury.
While Houston is just a "glorified Tulsa", Ohio State is without some of its great talent from last year, TCU is without Boykin, Texas is without a top notch QB (again) and Baylor is without Russell...with a very dangerous West Virginia game on the road and a good O-State team to close out the season...it makes more sense to be concerned with OU's issues first.
CT, you said it the first. Houston never even came close to OUr schedule last year and had a great year. Memphis had a great year and Tulsa had a fine year. Good for them. Houston is a very fine team, but we will beat them. Book it!
I still say we open at least by a TD on the Vegas Line. I'll be willing to eat crow if I'm wrong......
Hope you're right.
Given that we are speculating on OU football, there will be plenty of crow to be eaten by many of us by year's end.....one way or the other.
CT, as Schooner has mentioned above, I'm a homer. I really try to look at the positive, but I will look at the negatives as the season takes hold. We lose Baker, we're in trouble. I just don't see us losing to Houston or even tOSU if we are healthy. It's just me, but I stand behind those predictions..................
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One more prediction while I'm at it.. I think we will win both games because of our defensive backs. Were really good guys. I've seen a site that rated them in the top three. I agree......................
One more prediction while I'm at it.. I think we will win both games because of our defensive backs. Were really good guys. I've seen a site that rated them in the top three. I agree......................
No problem, K2C.
Personally, I no longer feel I can predict anything about this team, either negatively or positively, based on the team's history since the 2000 season. These days, I'm just hopeful.
At 67, I'm beginning to wonder if 2000 will be my last championship. I know we made the 4-team playoff last year but I see that as a case of being "so near, yet so far" from a championship. Clemson was clearly a better team and the great finish during the season was facilitated by TCU, Baylor and OSU playing without their starting QB's, all of whom were very good players....and the hiccup against Texas was inexcusable, especially considering how OU played after that game.
I see a 9-10 win season if Mayfield stays healthy and if newcomers/young players come through, a nice bowl berth, a chance to win the conference and a chance at a top ten ranking.
I think we could of beat Clemson if we would have played like we did in the first half. We were ahead at halftime. I don't believe we would have beat Bama if would have got to the championship game.
We're close guys......... Got to believe...........
We're close guys......... Got to believe...........
I bet college football as well and last year OU at 11-1was 9-3 ATS which is really pretty damn good. I don't bet OU in a bowl game anymore. FYI, Alabama won the Natty and was 12-1 with a 7-6 record ATS, so measuring a team ATS is for betting purposes only. Ohio State had a similar record. I doubt OU will be favored by 9 against Ohio State. If so, I probably will lay off that game. I think OSU will be solid this season.
Actually the Clemson game was tied at the half 17-17, before Clemson's 21-point avalanche in the second half.
I think OU will always be "pretty darn good". That's never debatable as far as I'm concerned.
I see OU at a level right now that most teams would love to be at, but there's a higher level that OU will be hard pressed to reach, just as the past 16 years have shown, for one reason or another.
One of the most positive things for OU, I believe, is the recently made quarterback pipeline. After Kendall, transfer Tyler Murray is eligible next year and in 2017, Chris Roberson comes in. Of the three, it's Roberson I'm most excited about, even though he likely will redshirt his first year with Kendall and Murray around. Time will tell how this pans out, because we can recall Cody Thomas coming in as one of the two QBs (along with Rhett "hired gun" Bomar) ever recruited during Stoops' tenure. All I can say is that a premier talent at QB can make a team's good season into a great season...it can compensate for a team's other shortcomings.
Also, it seems as though OU has been recruiting better in the 2015, 2016 and 2017 classes. Lots of 4-star players listed in each class and the 2017 class is off to a fabulous start. How far this will take OU is anyone's guess.
After the game was announced, then I started looking into names of players and then I recognized hearing about Shaq Lawson over the course of the season. But before it was announced OU was gonna play them, no way could I rattle names off the top of my head. Maybe some of it was I didn't get to watch OU playing Clemson in the bowl game the previous year to get acquainted with Clemson's players. But I don't keep up with the rosters of many teams. Generally the teams I keep track of are other teams in the Big XII that OU will be facing. And I certainly don't keep up with a single player on the roster of Houston. But that doesn't mean Houston doesn't have some really solid players down there.
Nothing wrong with being a homer K2C. I tend to agree with you right now that OU opens up a good favorite against Houston. But they are more than a glorified Tulsa. They are a legit solid football team. I'm not sure about tOSU that will be decided depending on how both teams perform in their two games prior to them meeting up. tOSU could end up being much better than we think. They could reload and just keep on rolling and not miss a beat.
I understand K2Cs mindset.
I still, to this day never think OU will lose a game. A carry over from the mid-seventies that I've not been able to shake.
Blatant homerism for sure.
It is what it is. Can't hep it.
I still, to this day never think OU will lose a game. A carry over from the mid-seventies that I've not been able to shake.
Blatant homerism for sure.
It is what it is. Can't hep it.
I understand K2Cs mindset.
I still, to this day never think OU will lose a game. A carry over from the mid-seventies that I've not been able to shake.
Blatant homerism for sure.
It is what it is. Can't hep it.
In 1998, you went into every game expecting a win?
Afraid so...it's a clinical sickness really.
OU goes undefeated and wins the NC. I don't give a rats *** about what the rest of you think.........Oh.......and we beat everyone we play by 20+ to set a new NCAA records for points, yards per game, and lead all defensive categories. Just put that in you pipe and smoke it!!!
Just put that in you pipe and smoke it!!!I always went into the games in the Blake years with a boat load of new curse words. I was a very big supporter of the John Blake hire. Mainly because Switzer was behind it. I could not believe how bad his teams were, especially with the experienced coaching staff he put together.