Regrets with covid

[HagginHall1999]

Lost my second relative today that I spent little to no time with in the past year. Neither were lost to COVID.

My Uncle was 70, had an aortic aneurysm, successful surgery but then developed pneumonia and ultimately passed from kidney failure. Lost an Aunt previously to Cancer in the Fall, hadn't seen her since Christmas '19. My cousins lost both of their parents in past 4 years.

I am just ticked at this point. Last time I saw my Uncle was the last week of January 2020 for my son's 1st bday.

I am glad my Dad got to see his brother while he was still lucid prior to passing.

Irritated that I've let a year go by losing loved ones because everyone is scared of something that could happen when anything can always happen.

Depressing thread, so here is some Steppenwolf, my Uncle's favorite band. RIP.

 

[jwheat]

I haven’t been to my grandpas house since Christmas 2019

 

[HagginHall1999]

I haven’t been to my grandpas house since Christmas 2019

That sucks

 

[Kentucky#1]

The side effects of this virus - economic, personal, emotional - brought upon us by politicians is far worse and more damaging than this virus ever could have been.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I got COVID in one of the only times I let my guard down, going to the bar to watch some football with friends. I then gave it to my girlfriend. And because of the timing, it ruined the Christmas holidays, NYE, my birthday and also my plans to propose during that week.

Neither of us got it TOO bad.. but she still has little taste or smell, nearly 3 months later.

 

[WayneDougan_rivals170043]

I haven’t seen my parents since 2019. But we talk on Zoom. I look at it like this: This is as close to a WWII experience as I’m probably ever going to get, meaning that I’m going to sacrifice a few things for a while until this blows over.

When people complain about the mental health toll, I’m like, “think of what people living in say Belgium or Poland went through during WWII.” That scary ****. This is nothing compared to that. They made it, so can you.

 

[HagginHall1999]

I got COVID in one of the only times I let my guard down, going to the bar to watch some football with friends. I then gave it to my girlfriend. And because of the timing, it ruined the Christmas holidays, NYE, my birthday and also my plans to propose during that week.

Neither of us got it TOO bad.. but she still has little taste or smell, nearly 3 months later.

Sorry to hear that.

 

[John Henry]

I hate to hear stories like these. Fortunately we have not had that type of experience. Our state has been pretty open through this. Schools were open on August 2, 2020 and still going strong. I don't know of any that ever shut down after they opened up. I went to the Post Office Friday and the only people with masks on were the government employees.

Restaurants are wide open, most do not have a mask requirement. Actually there is not a mask requirement in our county. So the beaches and bars are full. The governor said we will never shut down under any circumstances. If people want to isolate of course they can do that.

Now the benefits from staying open, or at least not shutting everything down. Our governor announced we will have a tax reduction, our state has a nice surplus in funds and we can do without the Federal Bailout money Congress passed. Of course Biden hates our governor so we wouldn't get much anyway.

To sum it up life has been pretty normal through all of this and I do not know anyone who has had COVID much less die from it. But I certainly feel for those that have and my prayers are with all.

 

[jwheat]

I haven’t seen my parents since 2019. But we talk on Zoom. I look at it like this: This is as close to a WWII experience as I’m probably ever going to get, meaning that I’m going to sacrifice a few things for a while until this blows over.

When people complain about the mental health toll, I’m like, “think of what people living in say Belgium or Poland went through during WWII.” That scary ****. This is nothing compared to that. They made it, so can you.

I haven’t seen my parents since 2019. But we talk on Zoom. I look at it like this: This is as close to a WWII experience as I’m probably ever going to get, meaning that I’m going to sacrifice a few things for a while until this blows over.

When people complain about the mental health toll, I’m like, “think of what people living in say Belgium or Poland went through during WWII.” That scary ****. This is nothing compared to that. They made it, so can you.

Thanks for the perspective

 

[vhcat70]

I hate to hear stories like these. Fortunately we have not had that type of experience. Our state has been pretty open through this. Schools were open on August 2, 2020 and still going strong. I don't know of any that ever shut down after they opened up. I went to the Post Office Friday and the only people with masks on were the government employees.

Restaurants are wide open, most do not have a mask requirement. Actually there is not a mask requirement in our county. So the beaches and bars are full. The governor said we will never shut down under any circumstances. If people want to isolate of course they can do that.

I think the above points are about choosing not to be in contact for safety, not forced to by state regulation. I certainly wouldn't have gone around someone 75+ with a health condition till they had the vaccine.

 

[ManitouDan]

I traveled more in 2020 than any year in the past . Call me whatever , but I went on with my life just as normally as possible . I mask up when I had too. I travelled from Ky to Detroit 2-3 times , to Lake Erie twice , From Eastern Ky to Lexington a dozen or more times . To Cincy 6-8 times or more . I've visited Tucson twice ( here now ) and Cozumel once . And Miami once . Thats what I recall at a moments notice . I made a choice covid fears were not going to dominate my life .

 

[Crums Bald Spot]

I hate to hear stories like these. Fortunately we have not had that type of experience. Our state has been pretty open through this. Schools were open on August 2, 2020 and still going strong. I don't know of any that ever shut down after they opened up. I went to the Post Office Friday and the only people with masks on were the government employees.

Restaurants are wide open, most do not have a mask requirement. Actually there is not a mask requirement in our county. So the beaches and bars are full. The governor said we will never shut down under any circumstances. If people want to isolate of course they can do that.

Now the benefits from staying open, or at least not shutting everything down. Our governor announced we will have a tax reduction, our state has a nice surplus in funds and we can do without the Federal Bailout money Congress passed. Of course Biden hates our governor so we wouldn't get much anyway.

To sum it up life has been pretty normal through all of this and I do not know anyone who has had COVID much less die from it. But I certainly feel for those that have and my prayers are with all.

Assume you're talking Florida? Desantis graded the highest out of all large state governors in regard to handling the virus. He is the one who should have written a book. I am hoping that he runs for president as he has a strong chance of winning.

 

[vhcat70]

I traveled more in 2020 than any year in the past . Call me whatever , but I went on with my life just as normally as possible . I mask up when I had too. I travelled from Ky to Detroit 2-3 times , to Lake Erie twice , From Eastern Ky to Lexington a dozen or more times . To Cincy 6-8 times or more . I've visited Tucson twice ( here now ) and Cozumel once . And Miami once . Thats what I recall at a moments notice . I made a choice covid fears were not going to dominate my life .

I suspect you're not 75 with pulmonary issues.

 

[ManitouDan]

I suspect you're not 75 with pulmonary issues.

No I wouldn't suggest my choice for that demographic . But I am 54 . No large health issues . There were no totally correct answers . To each his own . I must say I totally don't relate to those who donated a year or more of their life to hibernation . But I know they are out there . Still hunkered down .

 

[HagginHall1999]

No I wouldn't suggest my choice for that demographic . But I am 54 . No large health issues . There were no totally correct answers . To each his own . I must say I totally don't relate to those who donated a year or more of their life to hibernation . But I know they are out there . Still hunkered down .

Yep, we have done vacations, etc just distanced from extended family...you know, Easter, TDay, Christmas, etc. I never stopped living my life, just no travel for work. Still went to gym, golf, etc....but things have been limited to do for a year.

My Uncle who just passed...he had met a new woman in his life and she lived in Texas. He traveled from Ohio several times to visit her over the past year. He was moving on with life since my Aunt passed 4 years ago. I am glad he enjoyed the past year, just sorry I didn't get to say bye.

On the bright side, he had sent each of my kids an Amazon gift card at Christmas and my oldest drew him a thank you card and sent around the 1st of January. I am really glad my Uncle got that card.

 

[warrior-cat]

I traveled more in 2020 than any year in the past . Call me whatever , but I went on with my life just as normally as possible . I mask up when I had too. I travelled from Ky to Detroit 2-3 times , to Lake Erie twice , From Eastern Ky to Lexington a dozen or more times . To Cincy 6-8 times or more . I've visited Tucson twice ( here now ) and Cozumel once . And Miami once . Thats what I recall at a moments notice . I made a choice covid fears were not going to dominate my life .

I too traveled more this last year than in the past few. Had not seen my grandkids for almost three years so, I went to Kentucky and then Tennessee to visit family and friends and then a few other places. I wear the mask where mandatory and not where it is open. While the mandate is still in effect here in Oklahoma, many don't wear it and I have yet to see or hear of anyone challenge them on it. Ran into some old co-workers at Walmart I had not seen in a couple of years last weekend and they along with a few others were not wearing a mask. While talking to them (to make it easier to converse) I took mine off and kept it off. No looks of any kind or any flack from anyone because of it. There are many who do not wear them around here at local stores (feed and seed, hardware, grocery, etc...) in Elgin because many of them being old farmers and all are just not worried about it. They have the mentality that when it is their time... That being said, I wear it most of the time for those who worry but, when I am in a place where many to most are not, I take mine off.

 

[kyblue'92]

Sorry for your loss of loved ones during this time. God Bless you all. I lost an Aunt a month ago to brain cancer but no one could see her during these times. It's not fair at all!

 

[WayneDougan_rivals170043]

No I wouldn't suggest my choice for that demographic . But I am 54 . No large health issues . There were no totally correct answers . To each his own . I must say I totally don't relate to those who donated a year or more of their life to hibernation . But I know they are out there . Still hunkered down .

For my job, I used to fly every week. Often internationally. I was away from my wife and kids Monday through Thursday and occasionally weekends too. This last year I have been with them every day. This year has been better than the ones before it.

 

[BeAllied]

When people complain about the mental health toll, I’m like, “think of what people living in say Belgium or Poland went through during WWII.” That scary ****. This is nothing compared to that. They made it, so can you.

Many of the people who are deathly afraid or allowed COVID to control every aspect of their lives already had mental issues, especially anxiety disorders. I don't believe that COVID has created disorders in many adults that they didn't already have, but it has definitely had an impact on mentally developing children and teens.

If anything, I believe that this pandemic has caused more people to see others as "dirty". There have always been unsanitary people, but there is a difference between treating all others like they are dirty vs. actually having a reason to believe that someone is unsanitary. This can't be good for escalating social tensions.

 

[jwheat]

I’ve been to the beach and to Vegas but I would much rather have spent Easter thanksgiving and Christmas with my grandparents

 

[KyFaninNC]

That sucks

The government has us by the balls and we let them.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Sorry for your loss of loved ones during this time. God Bless you all. I lost an Aunt a month ago to brain cancer but no one could see her during these times. It's not fair at all!

Sorry for your loss as well.

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

I've done things pretty much by the book so I don't have many regrets. I've visited with most of my family responsibly. A couple of elderly ones caught covid, but it wasn't from me and had more to do with their political beliefs and social circle. One got a cough and the other was over a month in the hospital and will spend the rest of their life on oxygen. Medicare is probably going to foot a 1 mil bill just for them. They're still contemplating whether they're willing to get vaccinated or not due to, you know, sickness caused by the vaccine they saw on Facebook........

My biggest regret is how this has made me feel about people in general.

 

[WildcatofNati]

I've done things pretty much by the book so I don't have many regrets. I've visited with most of my family responsibly. A couple of elderly ones caught covid, but it wasn't from me and had more to do with their political beliefs and social circle. One got a cough and the other was over a month in the hospital and will spend the rest of their life on oxygen. Medicare is probably going to foot a 1 mil bill just for them. They're still contemplating whether they're willing to get vaccinated or not due to, you know, sickness caused by the vaccine they saw on Facebook........

My biggest regret is how this has made me feel about people in general.

1. You can't catch covid from "political beliefs".
2. It's perfectly reasonable that they would now contemplate as to whether to get vaccinated. Because, like, they've already had it.

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

1. You can't catch covid from "political beliefs".
2. It's perfectly reasonable that they would now contemplate as to whether to get vaccinated. Because, like, they've already had it.

1. If your politics leads you to think you can sip bleach to get rid of it, or it's just a cold and will disappear in warm weather, it's responsible.
2. They've been told their immunity will decrease, by the same doctor that kept them alive.
Any other simple concepts you can't understand?

 

[WildcatofNati]

1. If your politics leads you to think you can sip bleach to get rid of it, or it's just a cold and will disappear in warm weather, it's responsible.
2. They've been told their immunity will decrease, by the same doctor that kept them alive.
Any other simple concepts you can't understand?

Their doctor is clearly in the minority, and the statistics prove that- 63 confirmed reinfections in the entire world!
And, no, sipping bleach "to get rid of it" doesn't cause it. Neither does believing that it's a just a cold- the virus isn't interested in one's beliefs about anything. It's kind of interesting, however, that your team thinks that jamming the streets like sardines and screaming at the top of your lungs over and over like you were doing in June doesn't cause it, though.

 

[CB3UK]

Damn ragerts

 

[jwheat]

Hank, you ignorant slut. Over 500,000 Americans have died. This is a big deal.

How many Americans die every year? Usually that number goes up from one year to the next except from 2019->2020

shouldn’t it be safe to assume that if we get 500k new deaths from a new virus that we would have a massive increase in death not just in this country but around the whole world? We didn’t.

what we did do is lump all respiratory illnesses into coronavirus and if someone died with coronavirus in their system we counted it as a death toward the tally. This is the first time in virus history we have recorded deaths like that.

how many people at any given time throughout history have a cold flu or pneumonia? Keep the cycles on the lab tests high enough (which is what we did) and you’ll get a sneezing fit to read as a positive

 

[buckethead1978]

How many Americans die every year? Usually that number goes up from one year to the next except from 2019->2020

Care to cite a source?

 

[dgtatu01]

How many Americans die every year? Usually that number goes up from one year to the next except from 2019->2020

shouldn’t it be safe to assume that if we get 500k new deaths from a new virus that we would have a massive increase in death not just in this country but around the whole world? We didn’t.

what we did do is lump all respiratory illnesses into coronavirus and if someone died with coronavirus in their system we counted it as a death toward the tally. This is the first time in virus history we have recorded deaths like that.

how many people at any given time throughout history have a cold flu or pneumonia? Keep the cycles on the lab tests high enough (which is what we did) and you’ll get a sneezing fit to read as a positive

Sorry, none of your post is true. Excess deaths over the last year have been even more than the 500,000 dead directly from Covid. That is despite having almost none from the flu which are expected every year. This article shows all the data in the US and worldwide and is from a very reputable source.

It's ok to say the response to Covid was stupid regardless of all the deaths. It's not ok to lie about the deaths and say since no one died this was all stupid. There is a very real difference between those 2 lines of thought.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker

 

[jwheat]

Sorry, none of your post is true. Excess deaths over the last year have been even more than the 500,000 dead directly from Covid. That is despite having almost none from the flu which are expected every year. This article shows all the data in the US and worldwide and is from a very reputable source.

It's ok to say the response to Covid was stupid regardless of all the deaths. It's not ok to lie about the deaths and say since no one died this was all stupid. There is a very real difference between those 2 lines of thought.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker

I didn’t say no one died. A lot of people died. And guess what will happen next year? A lot of people will die.

 

[jwheat]

Sorry, none of your post is true. Excess deaths over the last year have been even more than the 500,000 dead directly from Covid. That is despite having almost none from the flu which are expected every year. This article shows all the data in the US and worldwide and is from a very reputable source.

It's ok to say the response to Covid was stupid regardless of all the deaths. It's not ok to lie about the deaths and say since no one died this was all stupid. There is a very real difference between those 2 lines of thought.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker

Our lockdowns were so good we prevented death from everything else but coronavirus

 

[buckethead1978]

Don't change the subject. You said deaths in 2019 = deaths in 2020.

Prove it.

 

[jwheat]

Don't change the subject. You said deaths in 2019 = deaths in 2020.

Prove it.

I’m not the best at making graphs so give me some time and I’ll find all the data I can aggregate. So far the only death category I have found that have risen were overdose and suicide.

 

[catlanta33]

Haven't seen my mom since Christmas of '19. She had both Moderna doses. She won't go to the emergency room even though she has something very wrong with her. She's depressed and we just found out she's defaulted on some things so now has a legal battle to keep her house.

**** China and I hope their labs blow up with all their lazy, careless scientists inside them.

 

[buckethead1978]

I’m not the best at making graphs so give me some time and I’ll find all the data I can aggregate. So far the only death category I have found that have risen were overdose and suicide.

Not sure why you would have to aggregate data and create charts. You made the claim. Back it up or just admit you fell for some fake news.

 

[dgtatu01]

I didn’t say no one died. A lot of people died. And guess what will happen next year? A lot of people will die.

No you said that we had a normal amount of deaths and that's 100% untrue. We have thus far had around 600,000 deaths above and beyond what was expected last year based on historical averages. You are telling a lie to justify your opinion. If you're opinion is based on the belief that no more people died than were expected to die than I am telling you you are wrong.

Stop telling that lie here and in your friend groups. You are spreading misinformation.

 

[dgtatu01]

Our lockdowns were so good we prevented death from everything else but coronavirus

Typical of a liar when caught. Deflect to another argument so you don't have to admit you lied. You have studied your politicians well.

 

[bthaunert]

I’m not the best at making graphs so give me some time and I’ll find all the data I can aggregate. So far the only death category I have found that have risen were overdose and suicide.

Because you're wrong. Total Deaths in the US according to the CDC:

2018 - 2,831,826
2019 - 2,854,838
2020 - 2,877,601 after 48 weeks. Still 4 more weeks to count. That number will be well over 3 million. I see a number of 3,187,086 but I can't verify that.

 

[bthaunert]

As for the OP, I've had a completely different view of a lot of this. My wife is an ICU nurse in a COVID unit outside of Baltimore. To say it's been hell for her would be an understatement. My biggest regret is thinking I knew what she was going through. For those that have 15 minutes, watch this video that follows ICU nurses in a COVID unit.

Death, Through a Nurse's Eye