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[IGNORE]

So a few years ago, in June, I expressed concern about the recruiting status. Turned into the Gaines class and also started a lot of vitriol towards me. Let’s repeat.

We are entering the end of summer and return to school season. Recruiting should be wrapping up for 2020. I look at offers out and see no one high on NU and quite a few reaches.

C’mon Mike, talk to me about where we are getting some real players to make the 2020 class. I feel Bams departure not only took away one of the best recruits in our history, but soured us on any other potential top talent.

Give me some good news.

 

[haywood jahblowme]

So a few years ago, in June, I expressed concern about the recruiting status. Turned into the Gaines class and also started a lot of vitriol towards me. Let’s repeat.

We are entering the end of summer and return to school season. Recruiting should be wrapping up for 2020. I look at offers out and see no one high on NU and quite a few reaches.

C’mon Mike, talk to me about where we are getting some real players to make the 2020 class. I feel Bams departure not only took away one of the best recruits in our history, but soured us on any other potential top talent.

Give me some good news.

there is a visitor on campus now. multiple in the next week. things are being held under wraps with poachers abound.

 

[Catreporter]

Give me some good news.

Methinks you really don't want to hear any.

 

[IGNORE]

Methinks you really don't want to hear any.

Youthinks wrong. But guessing it all the #fakenews and promote your own storyline to blame.

 

[mikewebb68]

So a few years ago, in June, I expressed concern about the recruiting status. Turned into the Gaines class and also started a lot of vitriol towards me. Let’s repeat.

We are entering the end of summer and return to school season. Recruiting should be wrapping up for 2020. I look at offers out and see no one high on NU and quite a few reaches.

C’mon Mike, talk to me about where we are getting some real players to make the 2020 class. I feel Bams departure not only took away one of the best recruits in our history, but soured us on any other potential top talent.

Give me some good news.

Uh, recruiting for 2020 is not "wrapping up*. Heck, Illinois recently signed a 2019 recruit! But, as usual, don't ler this or our last two amazing recruiting classes get in the way of your stellar narrative...

Board ban wager is still open, btw; should be a look for you since you see Carmody catching up to CC in winning percentages and you make theeads such as this. Willing to back up your words? Tick-tock...

 

[ricko6543211]

Uh, recruiting for 2020 is not "wrapping up*. Heck, Illinois recently signed a 2019 recruit! But, as usual, don't ler this or our last two amazing recruiting classes get in the way of your stellar narrative...

Board ban wager is still open, btw; should be a look for you since you see Carmody catching up to CC in winning percentages and you make theeads such as this. Willing to back up your words? Tick-tock...

You set a pretty ridiculously low bar for your “board ban” wager. 4.5 wins? That’s embarrassing. Besides, I don’t really understand why one would want other posters to be banned from posting anyways. The whole concept just seems weird to me. Isn’t the point of the board to discuss with other NU fans? So it’s like a lose lose - either you get banned or someone else does. If you’re making a bet shouldn’t there be a happy outcome in at least one scenario?

For the record I’d take over 4.5, because that’s an absurd line. For a 20 game conference season I think ~6 is about fair. Which, frankly, is still a bit embarrassing, but it is what it is right now.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

Methinks you really don't want to hear any.

Boy did you nail that one!

 

[NURoseBowl]

You set a pretty ridiculously low bar for your “board ban” wager. 4.5 wins? That’s embarrassing. Besides, I don’t really understand why one would want other posters to be banned from posting anyways. The whole concept just seems weird to me. Isn’t the point of the board to discuss with other NU fans? So it’s like a lose lose - either you get banned or someone else does. If you’re making a bet shouldn’t there be a happy outcome in at least one scenario?

For the record I’d take over 4.5, because that’s an absurd line. For a 20 game conference season I think ~6 is about fair. Which, frankly, is still a bit embarrassing, but it is what it is right now.

Mike and Bob are both good guys, they just see things through different prisms and like to spar with one another.

 

[CappyNU]

So a few years ago, in June, I expressed concern about the recruiting status. Turned into the Gaines class and also started a lot of vitriol towards me. Let’s repeat.

We are entering the end of summer and return to school season. Recruiting should be wrapping up for 2020. I look at offers out and see no one high on NU and quite a few reaches.

C’mon Mike, talk to me about where we are getting some real players to make the 2020 class. I feel Bams departure not only took away one of the best recruits in our history, but soured us on any other potential top talent.

Give me some good news.

Every one of our freshmen were signed in September or later last year. There's no reason to panic on 2020 yet.

 

[ricko6543211]

Mike and Bob are both good guys, they just see things through different prisms and like to spar with one another.

I agree with this. They seem to get a fair amount of enjoyment from their back-and-forth... otherwise there's no reason they would continue doing it!

 

[NJCat]

Every one of our freshmen were signed in September or later last year. There's no reason to panic on 2020 yet.

None of them "signed" in September. Don't confuse a commitment date with LOI signing dates, which are the only dates that are binding. There are two LOI signing periods: one week in November (early period) and April-May (regular period).

 

[IGNORE]

Mike and Bob are both good guys, they just see things through different prisms and like to spar with one another.

It’s the difference when compared to Va or GCG, who are simply pricks. I have much common ground w Va and have tried to engage him on such topics, but he refuses. So now I tease him about it. He only comes around this Board to be a jerk.

Same w gcg - gone are the days of his insightful contributions. Corbi too. Damn shame. But everyone has their own purpose for spending time here so who am I to judge.

 

[hdhntr1]

You set a pretty ridiculously low bar for your “board ban” wager. 4.5 wins? That’s embarrassing. Besides, I don’t really understand why one would want other posters to be banned from posting anyways. The whole concept just seems weird to me. Isn’t the point of the board to discuss with other NU fans? So it’s like a lose lose - either you get banned or someone else does. If you’re making a bet shouldn’t there be a happy outcome in at least one scenario?

For the record I’d take over 4.5, because that’s an absurd line. For a 20 game conference season I think ~6 is about fair. Which, frankly, is still a bit embarrassing, but it is what it is right now.

He made the statement that we would do better than last year. That is the bet. Either take it or not. But don't complain about the terms. There have plenty saying the sky is falling so should be plenty of takers

 

[CappyNU]

None of them "signed" in September. Don't confuse a commitment date with LOI signing dates, which are the only dates that are binding. There are two LOI signing periods: one week in November (early period) and April-May (regular period).

My bad, I meant to say that they committed, not signed. Per Rivals' database, they committed between September and November of last year.

 

[IGNORE]

He made the statement that we would do better than last year. That is the bet. Either take it or not. But don't complain about the terms. There have plenty saying the sky is falling so should be plenty of takers

Ok, but he has been also saying that the recruiting has been fantastic since CCC arrived. Well, he is on his own players and several classes deep - so either we should be remarkably better or recruiting isn't better or it doesn't matter if recruiting is better because CCC can't do the rest of the job to take better recruits to better success.

Wagering about not being the shortest midget is ridiculous. And my additional beef is the lack of depth - and Mike says that would DQ the bet. I can agree that, absent some significant missing minutes for injuries, suspensions, transfers, this team should win a small number of games. But I think those missing minutes will happen. So, any bet I would make would have to include such misfortunes. The staff has, once again, not executed on securing depth.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

It’s the difference when compared to Va or GCG, who are simply pricks. I have much common ground w Va and have tried to engage him on such topics, but he refuses. So now I tease him about it. He only comes around this Board to be a jerk.

Same w gcg - gone are the days of his insightful contributions. Corbi too. Damn shame. But everyone has their own purpose for spending time here so who am I to judge.

Why would I engage you when you openly admit you don’t like the program and want to see it dropped. You are here simply to trash it? If that makes you happy, go for it. But it says a lot about you.

 

[hdhntr1]

Ok, but he has been also saying that the recruiting has been fantastic since CCC arrived. Well, he is on his own players and several classes deep - so either we should be remarkably better or recruiting isn't better or it doesn't matter if recruiting is better because CCC can't do the rest of the job to take better recruits to better success.

Wagering about not being the shortest midget is ridiculous. And my additional beef is the lack of depth - and Mike says that would DQ the bet. I can agree that, absent some significant missing minutes for injuries, suspensions, transfers, this team should win a small number of games. But I think those missing minutes will happen. So, any bet I would make would have to include such misfortunes. The staff has, once again, not executed on securing depth.

We have gotten some talented guys but we also have not had a complete team (last year it was lack of a PG for example) . You can have both things be true. Add in that that talent tends to be pretty young and needs to take the next step. The loss of Lathon last year was huge and will also definitely affect this year. Hopefully we have improved the situation form last year but so far, we really do not know.

Again, everyone was saying how bad we were going to be. Even worse than last year. He said, no, that based on conference games we would likely do better and he was willing to bet on that. He did not say we would do 100% better, just do better. And that would be 5 conference wins. So take the bet or do not. But those are the terms

 

[No Chores]

It’s the difference when compared to Va or GCG, who are simply pricks. I have much common ground w Va and have tried to engage him on such topics, but he refuses. So now I tease him about it. He only comes around this Board to be a jerk.

Same w gcg - gone are the days of his insightful contributions. Corbi too. Damn shame. But everyone has their own purpose for spending time here so who am I to judge.

Agree in all respects my man. (Are you going to Palo Alto? Which home games are you attending?)

 

[IGNORE]

Why would I engage you when you openly admit you don’t like the program and want to see it dropped. You are here simply to trash it? If that makes you happy, go for it. But it says a lot about you.

Very loose and convenient interpretation. You sound like a liberal.

You have falsely conveyed the context of my full message. But that’s your schtick.

 

[IGNORE]

We have gotten some talented guys but we also have not had a complete team (last year it was lack of a PG for example) . You can have both things be true. Add in that that talent tends to be pretty young and needs to take the next step. The loss of Lathon last year was huge and will also definitely affect this year. Hopefully we have improved the situation form last year but so far, we really do not know.

Again, everyone was saying how bad we were going to be. Even worse than last year. He said, no, that based on conference games we would likely do better and he was willing to bet on that. He did not say we would do 100% better, just do better. And that would be 5 conference wins. So take the bet or do not. But those are the terms

He said any significant injury cancelled the bet. That’s my biggest contingency. There is little substance and no depth.

 

[IGNORE]

Agree in all respects my man. (Are you going to Palo Alto? Which home games are you attending?)

Not sure. I’m still in season so probably not. I admittedly prefer football on TV but I may try to wander to a home game. I’m more attracted to flying to another school for an away game and taking in a new experience.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

Very loose and convenient interpretation. You sound like a liberal.

You have falsely conveyed the context of my full message. But that’s your schtick.

Feel free to explain better, because that’s how it certainly came across.

 

[IGNORE]

Feel free to explain better, because that’s how it certainly came across.

I’ve said what I mean. No need to repeat. You would believe what you want.

I’m not sure if it’s ironic or hypocritical based on some of your complaints over on the rant board. Guess it’s ok to liberally interpret and proclaim as truth when it suits your purposes.

 

[mikewebb68]

Ok, but he has been also saying that the recruiting has been fantastic since CCC arrived. Well, he is on his own players and several classes deep - so either we should be remarkably better or recruiting isn't better or it doesn't matter if recruiting is better because CCC can't do the rest of the job to take better recruits to better success.

Wagering about not being the shortest midget is ridiculous. And my additional beef is the lack of depth - and Mike says that would DQ the bet. I can agree that, absent some significant missing minutes for injuries, suspensions, transfers, this team should win a small number of games. But I think those missing minutes will happen. So, any bet I would make would have to include such misfortunes. The staff has, once again, not executed on securing depth.

To be clear, a negative rvent would NOT DQ the bet if you take it now or before a negative event happens. Negative events that happen AFTER you take the bet are fine...

 

[mikewebb68]

He said any significant injury cancelled the bet. That’s my biggest contingency. There is little substance and no depth.

Never said that. Was protecting myself from something disastrous happening and you THEN taking the bet, which you threatened to do, since I am not a sucker.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

The admin does not care much about BB. So dump it - drop the budget dramatically and spend that money elsewhere. Absent a major donor alum throwing a fit and demanding serious BB improvement - the institution has not created the environment to generate success.

I’ve said what I mean. No need to repeat. You would believe what you want.

Guess it’s ok to liberally interpret and proclaim as truth when it suits your purposes.

Can you explain how I’ve liberally interpreted that you want to dump the program? You were pretty clear in your original quote which I included above.

You’re always calling out other people for things they’ve said in the past. Surely you can handle it happening to you.

 

[IGNORE]

To be clear, a negative rvent would NOT DQ the bet if you take it now or before a negative event happens. Negative events that happen AFTER you take the bet are fine...

I misunderstood you. My apologies. I will consider this more. I really think you have found the 50/50 line and I suck at being the bettor, admittedly.

But shortlist midget really is a crappy thing to bet on.

 

[IGNORE]

Can you explain how I’ve liberally interpreted that you want to dump the program? You were pretty clear in your original quote which I included above.

You’re always calling out other people for things they’ve said in the past. Surely you can handle it happening to you.

Sure. The admin has spent a bunch of money on this program. Marketing, scholarships, coaching salaries, team budget. But they refuse to allow any allowance within industry standards in the form of some admission exceptions. And that handcuffs the program meaningfully. Even though 5 students won’t change any measurable educational parameters. Even though they have some allowances for football.

So, in my opinion, that’s a crappy effort and waste of money. We have national competitors in non revenue sports like golf, tennis, field hockey, softball, swimming, etc. More money on those sports could raise those programs even higher.

If they aren’t going to commit to creating the environment to allow a B1G competitive program, then stop putting lipstick on the pig. Drop the monetary commitment to minimums and allocate that money to raise other programs to industry leaders. Become the gold standard for swimming and diving, throw money at WBB or soccer. The revenue spent on MBB could be game changing in other sports.

Either choose to pursue a competitive team or resign to not and spend the money accordingly.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

Sure. The admin has spent a bunch of money on this program. Marketing, scholarships, coaching salaries, team budget. But they refuse to allow any allowance within industry standards in the form of some admission exceptions. And that handcuffs the program meaningfully. Even though 5 students won’t change any measurable educational parameters. Even though they have some allowances for football.

So, in my opinion, that’s a crappy effort and waste of money. We have national competitors in non revenue sports like golf, tennis, field hockey, softball, swimming, etc. More money on those sports could raise those programs even higher.

If they aren’t going to commit to creating the environment to allow a B1G competitive program, then stop putting lipstick on the pig. Drop the monetary commitment to minimums and allocate that money to raise other programs to industry leaders. Become the gold standard for swimming and diving, throw money at WBB or soccer. The revenue spent on MBB could be game changing in other sports.

Either choose to pursue a competitive team or resign to not and spend the money accordingly.

So if I’m reading this correctly, our admin isn’t committed to having a good basketball team, so at this time you’d rather just see the program totally dropped.

So my question remains, why are you here continually griping about the coaching and the quality of the players? Why waste the time? You clearly don’t believe we’re in a position to compete anyway.

 

[NJCat]

I will consider this more. I really think you have found the 50/50 line and I suck at being the bettor, admittedly..

Think about it hard, decide what you want to bet, and then do the opposite.

Worked for George Costanza.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

Sure. The admin has spent a bunch of money on this program. Marketing, scholarships, coaching salaries, team budget. But they refuse to allow any allowance within industry standards in the form of some admission exceptions. And that handcuffs the program meaningfully. Even though 5 students won’t change any measurable educational parameters. Even though they have some allowances for football.

So, in my opinion, that’s a crappy effort and waste of money. We have national competitors in non revenue sports like golf, tennis, field hockey, softball, swimming, etc. More money on those sports could raise those programs even higher.

If they aren’t going to commit to creating the environment to allow a B1G competitive program, then stop putting lipstick on the pig. Drop the monetary commitment to minimums and allocate that money to raise other programs to industry leaders. Become the gold standard for swimming and diving, throw money at WBB or soccer. The revenue spent on MBB could be game changing in other sports.

Either choose to pursue a competitive team or resign to not and spend the money accordingly.

Of course, dropping the program is a ridiculous suggestion, but it does seem that NU could improve the product with little to no new money. How much does it cost to loosen the admission requirements for 2-3 students on the team? Will they still graduate and be successful in later life? If the answer is yes, it should be a no brainer. Why do some admissions and some people always assume the worst case scenario when considering the prospect of loosening requirements?

NU seems like the neighbor who spends a lot of coin to beautifully paint his entire home, but forgets to paint the trim.

 

[ricko6543211]

He made the statement that we would do better than last year. That is the bet. Either take it or not. But don't complain about the terms. There have plenty saying the sky is falling so should be plenty of takers

Well I would take over 4.5, if that’s the question. But I’m not trying to get involved in this mess haha. I just pointed out that IMO the listed line was not a fair one.

 

[IGNORE]

So if I’m reading this correctly, our admin isn’t committed to having a good basketball team, so at this time you’d rather just see the program totally dropped.

So my question remains, why are you here continually griping about the coaching and the quality of the players? Why waste the time? You clearly don’t believe we’re in a position to compete anyway.

I’m here because I’m alum. I’m a sports fan. And so I’m an NU sports fan. I’m not a Cubs fan. I’m a south side raised Sox and Bears fan. I will gripe and ***** when those entrusted with the success of the teams for which I root fail their job, IMHO.

I will be the biggest cheerleader when they win championships and bring home something to brag about. And I will damn them when they don’t. And if they seem to do a wasteful or half *** job, I will rail louder.

And I won’t ask for your permission nor care about your complaints. But you specifically, based on the framing of some of your arguments on the rant board, I find particularly comical and understand why so few extend much credibility to your thoughts at all.

So, remember IGNORE is your friend and you share many ideologies. So either we have more in common than you want to admit, or you have made some poor life choices. Cheers.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

I will be the biggest cheerleader when they win championships and bring home something to brag about. And I will damn them when they don’t. And if they seem to do a wasteful or half *** job, I will rail louder.

So only championships will make you happy? When we went to the tourney, you definitely weren’t the “biggest cheerleader.” You ever think you’ve possibly set an impossible standard? lol

 

[NJCat]

So only championships will make you happy? When we went to the tourney, you definitely we’re the “biggest cheerleader.” You ever think you’ve possibly set an impossible standard? lol

5th place in the B1G = Championship in today's "everyone gets a trophy" liberal socialist culture.........

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

5th place in the B1G = Championship in today's "everyone gets a trophy" liberal socialist culture.........

Clearly we should be winning the B1G every single year or we might as well drop the program.

 

[Pukecat]

Clearly we should be winning the B1G every single year or we might as well drop the program.

Ooh, just to remind everybody, when was the last time our basketball team won the conference?

 

[mikewebb68]

Ooh, just to remind everybody, when was the last time our basketball team won the conference?

That would be 1933! We've only won it twice, 1931 and 1933 (co-champs). Every BIG team except the most recent members has won at least four times as many BIG titles as us-- heck, even the University of Chicago has many more BIG titles than us.

Think being a head coach here is a difficult job?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Big_Ten_Conference_men's_basketball_regular_season_champions

 

[IGNORE]

So only championships will make you happy? When we went to the tourney, you definitely weren’t the “biggest cheerleader.” You ever think you’ve possibly set an impossible standard? lol

Whatever Va. Chop and paste. Lara and I were flying around checking out other venues that year. It’s what saved Mike and my relationship. But you do you.

And you still won’t escape that we share many ideologies. Luv ya brother

 

[IGNORE]

Clearly we should be winning the B1G every single year or we might as well drop the program.

Ok, no stretch here of the original statement #morefakenews #vacatisclosetliberal