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Right now the PSU Lettermen need to help Terry Smith

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DaytonRickster said:
Well, that 2027 class is shedding recruits. Terry has his work cut out for him.
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True, but would they have shed those same recruits if they ended up 5-7 or 4-8 in a few weeks? With a newbie QB with no real experience, a really weak defense, and a schedule of Kinnick at night, at Ohio St, and Indiana in the next few weeks they’ll likely be 3-6 soon. Those same recruits likely would announce they were decommitting anyway.

It’s a case of short term pain for potential long term gain.
 
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Psu00 said:
True, but would they have shed those same recruits if they ended up 5-7 or 4-8 in a few weeks? With a newbie QB with no real experience, a really weak defense, and a schedule of Kinnick at night, at Ohio St, and Indiana in the next few weeks they’ll likely be 3-6 soon. Those same recruits likely would announce they were decommitting anyway.

It’s a case of short term pain for potential long term gain.
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I agree. Perhaps a new coach will be announced immediately at the seasons conclusion and he can bring some back in the fold.
 
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I'm not sure I understand this--it's highly unlikely Terry Smith is even employed by Penn State next year. He can't do much to save the class.
We're going to lose a ton to the portal and will need to rely heavily on it--like most teams that see coaching changes
 
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KingLando said:
I'm not sure I understand this--it's highly unlikely Terry Smith is even employed by Penn State next year. He can't do much to save the class.
We're going to lose a ton to the portal and will need to rely heavily on it--like most teams that see coaching changes
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Terry is an excellent recruiter and CB coach. The scheme has hurt his corner players - Knowkes has them.playing way off the LOS and the pass rush has been severely lacking.
I think he be a valuable coach for the next staff. Not sure any other coaches except maybe Poindexter survive the cut.
I do agree there will be massive player turnover.
 
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DaytonRickster said:
Terry is an excellent recruiter and CB coach. The scheme has hurt his corner players - Knowkes has them.playing way off the LOS and the pass rush has been severely lacking.
I think he be a valuable coach for the next staff. Not sure any other coaches except maybe Poindexter survive the cut.
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This isn't criticism of Smith but he shouldn't be the next HC and I want the staff to bring in who they want.
If they want Smith great--if they don't--that's also great
 
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What Terry does in the next 7 weeks might change their minds again, key word 2027 recruits.
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First thing he has to do is declare that the rest of this season is for rebuilding. He needs to tell last year players like Allen, Singleton, Sutton, etc. that they are going to be cameo players and will likely sit a lot. They had their chance. They failed. Give the underclassmen plenty of playing time and get ready for next year. We aren't going to win against Ohio State, Indiana, or Iowa so there is no point is playing the losers who caused our demise.
 
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lemonears said:
First thing he has to do is declare that the rest of this season is for rebuilding. He needs to tell last year players like Allen, Singleton, Sutton, etc. that they are going to be cameo players and will likely sit a lot. They had their chance. They failed. Give the underclassmen plenty of playing time and get ready for next year. We aren't going to win against Ohio State, Indiana, or Iowa so there is no point is playing the losers who caused our demise.
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LOL--imagine any college coach benching their best players--no one will ever want to play for them. Ever.
 
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Friend in Pittsburgh just called me from a bar near ‘Quip and Tikey Harris’ Dad walks in …. Informed his dad about the firing, which surprised him somewhat … Dad says Tikey isn’t going anywhere - loves PSU … Dad approves of Terry Smith as interim HC
 
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lemonears said:
First thing he has to do is declare that the rest of this season is for rebuilding. He needs to tell last year players like Allen, Singleton, Sutton, etc. that they are going to be cameo players and will likely sit a lot. They had their chance. They failed. Give the underclassmen plenty of playing time and get ready for next year. We aren't going to win against Ohio State, Indiana, or Iowa so there is no point is playing the losers who caused our demise.
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Why would Smith do that when he’s likely not here next year anyway? It just makes him look bad as a coach.
 
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lemonears said:
First thing he has to do is declare that the rest of this season is for rebuilding. He needs to tell last year players like Allen, Singleton, Sutton, etc. that they are going to be cameo players and will likely sit a lot. They had their chance. They failed. Give the underclassmen plenty of playing time and get ready for next year. We aren't going to win against Ohio State, Indiana, or Iowa so there is no point is playing the losers who caused our demise.
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100% no. So you're going to screw kids over who've been with the program for years, who have a draft coming up, and will be the future lettermen that help support/promote the program (unless you alienate them, of course) ...

The administration just fired Franklin. They just sent the message to everyone that Franklin was the problem. Now you're going to step in and, essentially say "well, it was really all these crappy players who didn't get the job done" by sitting them?

And you send the message that a future player could just be the victim of a scorched earth policy where everyone is severely punished if overall things don't go well (i.e. paying for the sins of others)?

Besides, there's a very good chance Smith gets the boot (or leaves of his own accord) after this season, as a new regime comes in and puts their plan (and staff) into place. Why's he going to toss away his best chance to look as good as possible, while showcasing players who may very well just transfer out at season's end?

He has to handle this much more maturely than you're suggesting.
 
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KingLando said:
I'm not sure I understand this--it's highly unlikely Terry Smith is even employed by Penn State next year. He can't do much to save the class.
We're going to lose a ton to the portal and will need to rely heavily on it--like most teams that see coaching changes
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assuming Kraft and his staff have any smarts they know exactly what all of us know. They realize the signing and portal dates and the need to shore up any wavering 2026 recruits. So, hopefully they're taking the steps necessary to avoid a massive personnel fallout. It might help our cause if we start getting some of the younger players some time on the field. Uncertainty and lack of playing time seem like sure steps to the portal.
 
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lemonears said:
First thing he has to do is declare that the rest of this season is for rebuilding. He needs to tell last year players like Allen, Singleton, Sutton, etc. that they are going to be cameo players and will likely sit a lot. They had their chance. They failed. Give the underclassmen plenty of playing time and get ready for next year. We aren't going to win against Ohio State, Indiana, or Iowa so there is no point is playing the losers who caused our demise.
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Correction. Allen did NOT fail.
 
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Hope that Terry gets the team to play with a nothing to lose mentality. No more conservative play calling on offense. Get Howard/Denmark and other guys on the 2 deep involved if the 1s don’t perform.
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Most importantly, let the kids have fun. They have not had fun this season playing stuffy boring ball.
 
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baltimorened said:
assuming Kraft and his staff have any smarts they know exactly what all of us know. They realize the signing and portal dates and the need to shore up any wavering 2026 recruits. So, hopefully they're taking the steps necessary to avoid a massive personnel fallout. It might help our cause if we start getting some of the younger players some time on the field. Uncertainty and lack of playing time seem like sure steps to the portal.
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You can't simply bench your seniors. Why would anyone ever come here if we did that? I follow your logic but getting the younger guys in the field is just allowing them to audition for other teams. It's hurts more than helps.

Why does Smith playing someone matter when he won't be here? At least not in charge.
 
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