Saturday is November 13th and Alabama is playing..

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It's like a bye week except that it allows Bama to rest up injured players without fear of really losing and/or getting rusty. It also allows Bama to get 2nd and 3rd stringers meaningful playing time.
 

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1-8 New Mexico State.. If the playoff committee had any stones, they would drop them to about 6 Tuesday for playing this game this late.

This is a tried and true SEC tradition; while other conferences - especially the B1G - are beating the sh*t out of each other in November, the SEC takes it easy. Here are some riveting November match ups:

Week 11

New Mexico St @ Alabama
Samford @ Florida

Week 12

Charleston Southern @ Georgia
Prairie View @ Texas A&M
New Mexico St @ Kentucky (LOL)
Tennessee St @ Mississippi St
South Alabama @ Tennessee
UL Monroe @ LSU

It's an absolute JOKE, and they do it every year.
 

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This is a tried and true SEC tradition; while other conferences - especially the B1G - are beating the sh*t out of each other in November, the SEC takes it easy. Here are some riveting November match ups:

Week 11

New Mexico St @ Alabama
Samford @ Florida

Week 12

Charleston Southern @ Georgia
Prairie View @ Texas A&M
New Mexico St @ Kentucky (LOL)
Tennessee St @ Mississippi St
South Alabama @ Tennessee
UL Monroe @ LSU

It's an absolute JOKE, and they do it every year.

sec: A$$. BEATINGS. o_O just mean more.
 

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I’ve never understood why it would matter if they played them in September and had a bye now, vs having the earlier bye and playing a cream puff now.
 
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I’ve never understood why it would matter if they played them in September and had a bye now, vs having the earlier bye and playing a cream puff now.
Agree. I actually think it's pretty smart. Only thing I don't like is the lower tier FBS competition - and sometimes multiple during the season. At least get at team like James Madison or NDSU. Hell, Villanova is better than NMSU.
 

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This is a tried and true SEC tradition; while other conferences - especially the B1G - are beating the sh*t out of each other in November, the SEC takes it easy. Here are some riveting November match ups:

Week 11

New Mexico St @ Alabama
Samford @ Florida

Week 12

Charleston Southern @ Georgia
Prairie View @ Texas A&M
New Mexico St @ Kentucky (LOL)
Tennessee St @ Mississippi St
South Alabama @ Tennessee
UL Monroe @ LSU

It's an absolute JOKE, and they do it every year.
Tried and true, yeah. I roll my eyes but what can you do? This thread appears like clockwork every year around November 10th, as well it should. It's a God damn abomination.
 

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I’ve never understood why it would matter if they played them in September and had a bye now, vs having the earlier bye and playing a cream puff now.
I think that spreading out the cream puffs is an an advantage. Alabama is hosting Arkansas next week. Arkansas is playing LSU at Death Valley this week, night game. That kind of imbalance isn’t fair, IMO.
 

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I’ve never understood why it would matter if they played them in September and had a bye now, vs having the earlier bye and playing a cream puff now.
Seconded. People want to lose their minds over the littlest of things. By doing this, it takes the SEC completely out of the spotlight for a week or two at the biggest point of the year. But this is no different than if they played the soft ones in September. Would you rather get the reps for the 2's and 3's before conference play or before rivalry weekend? SEC chooses the latter.
 

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Seconded. People want to lose their minds over the littlest of things. By doing this, it takes the SEC completely out of the spotlight for a week or two at the biggest point of the year. But this is no different than if they played the soft ones in September. Would you rather get the reps for the 2's and 3's before conference play or before rivalry weekend? SEC chooses the latter.
Nobody’s losing their minds. And how does it take the SEC out of the spotlight when it’s only Alabama and Florida playing cream puffs? Georgia-Tennessee and A&M-Ole Miss will get plenty of atttention.
 

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I guess they get a pass from me since they actually go out and win National Title's.
 

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It's like a bye week except that it allows Bama to rest up injured players without fear of really losing and/or getting rusty. It also allows Bama to get 2nd and 3rd stringers meaningful playing time.

It also allows them to throw a 50 spot on the scoreboard during a time when few are. Btw, nothing is keeping other conferences from doing the same.
 

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I’ve never understood why it would matter if they played them in September and had a bye now, vs having the earlier bye and playing a cream puff now.
I never said I was against them playing, but this game should be games 1 or 2 of the season, not in week 11 when teams are playing to move up in the playoffs, playing rivals, and getting dropped for tough losses. Bama plays the games, they should move down in the polls.

How can the committee keep Alabama at 2 for blowing out a 1-8 independent school, while Oregon beats bowl eligible Washington State, Ohio State beats ranked Purdue, or even ahead of Michigan if they win at Happy Valley?
 

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I never said I was against them playing, but this game should be games 1 or 2 of the season, not in week 11 when teams are playing to move up in the playoffs, playing rivals, and getting dropped for tough losses. Bama plays the games, they should move down in the polls.

How can the committee keep Alabama at 2 for blowing out a 1-8 independent school, while Oregon beats bowl eligible Washington State, Ohio State beats ranked Purdue, or even ahead of Michigan if they win at Happy Valley?
Because the rankings should be based on your body of work, not on which team you beat this past week. I don’t care which order you beat teams A, B, and C, just the result of those games.
 
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I never said I was against them playing, but this game should be games 1 or 2 of the season, not in week 11 when teams are playing to move up in the playoffs, playing rivals, and getting dropped for tough losses. Bama plays the games, they should move down in the polls.

How can the committee keep Alabama at 2 for blowing out a 1-8 independent school, while Oregon beats bowl eligible Washington State, Ohio State beats ranked Purdue, or even ahead of Michigan if they win at Happy Valley?

It prevents them from a ‘let down’ or trap game that is more likely to happen when you play a team with a pulse before your big rivalry games. There’s no looking ahead - they cream these guys, rest their stars, and put up big numbers to keep their rankings secure. It’s horseshit.
 
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Because the rankings should be based on your body of work, not on which team you beat this past week. I don’t care which order you beat teams A, B, and C, just the result of those games.
Disagree. Teams get better and worse as the season wears on. ie clifford stays healthy, we lose once to OSU. We’d be top 10.
 
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Never mind. Mangled my point, so here I am again asking for a delete button. Have a good day, everyone!
 

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I think that spreading out the cream puffs is an an advantage. Alabama is hosting Arkansas next week. Arkansas is playing LSU at Death Valley this week, night game. That kind of imbalance isn’t fair, IMO.
In the bigger picture, I'd be okay with it if each SEC team had their mid-season creampuff scheduled for the same weekend.
 

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New Mexico State is independent btw...because no will have them (they are like Pitt in New Mexico).

Sincerely,

UNM Dad
 

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Also worth noting SEC schools only play 8 conference games, compared to the B1G which plays 9. Alabama's four OOC games this year are:

Miami, FL
Mercer
Southern Miss
New Mexico St.

If they swapped playing Florida in Week 3 with their game against New Mexico State this weekend, post-bye week they would have had to play LSU (home), Florida (away), Arkansas (home), and Auburn (away) in consecutive weeks. So, not only do they get a cream puff opponent they get four games in a row where they don't leave the state of Alabama. The NMSU game is absolutely to their benefit and when they play it makes a massive difference.
 

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Does the BIG have a rule that prohibits their teams from doing the same thing regarding scheduling? If not, it seems rather foolish to complain because someone is smarter than you. They take football pretty seriously. Plus at least the SEC doesn’t screw everyone else over for the sanctity of “THE GAME”.
 
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Does the BIG have a rule that prohibits their teams from doing the same thing regarding scheduling? If not, it seems rather foolish to complain because someone is smarter than you. They take football pretty seriously. Plus at least the SEC doesn’t screw everyone else over for the sanctity of “THE GAME”.

Believe we have a rule that we have to play 9 conference games. That impacts everything else. I don't think cheating to keep your record better and improve your standing for the playoff is 'smart' as much as it is 'slimy', but it is what it is. I mean - Mercer? New Mexico State? C'mon.
 

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Does the BIG have a rule that prohibits their teams from doing the same thing regarding scheduling? If not, it seems rather foolish to complain because someone is smarter than you. They take football pretty seriously. Plus at least the SEC doesn’t screw everyone else over for the sanctity of “THE GAME”.
We played Temple on November 15th of 2014
 
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Believe we have a rule that we have to play 9 conference games. That impacts everything else. I don't think cheating to keep your record better and improve your standing for the playoff is 'smart' as much as it is 'slimy', but it is what it is. I mean - Mercer? New Mexico State? C'mon.
“Cheating”?

The Big Ten decided the right move is 9 conference games and more TV $. I’m not a fan of it, but we’re the outlier in playing that many conference games, not the SEC with their 8.
 
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Believe we have a rule that we have to play 9 conference games. That impacts everything else. I don't think cheating to keep your record better and improve your standing for the playoff is 'smart' as much as it is 'slimy', but it is what it is. I mean - Mercer? New Mexico State? C'mon.
I wasn’t referring to 8 verses 9 conference games. Although that is once again a self imposed penalty that makes schedules more difficult. The BIG should move to 8 conference games, that actually promote the BIG’s ability to place teams in the playoffs and better bowls. And were that to happen we would be smart to schedule a tomato 🍅 can later in the season.

Honestly, two years ago we played Idaho and this year Villanova. I seriously doubt they are far superior to the teams you referenced, but that’s an arguable position I assume. True we don’t play as many but we can’t claim purity.

When you play these inferior teams is a factor of good scheduling, that’s all I’m saying. Regarding scheduling, what’s the logic in playing Wisconsin as a first game? It really doesn’t matter I guess, because virtually everything the BIG does is ultimately focused on the promotion of two teams.
 

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“Cheating”?

The Big Ten decided the right move is 9 conference games and more TV $. I’m not a fan of it, but we’re the outlier in playing that many conference games, not the SEC with their 8.

There should be some kind of standard in terms of conference scheduling. The CFP threw a fit when the Big XII didn't have a conference championship game, so the Big XII went and made one. Should be the same for scheduling the way the SEC does. Instead, they're rewarded not only for playing fewer conference games, but also for playing programs that are the worst of the worst.
 

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We played Temple on November 15th of 2014
That’s what I humbly call a half full tomato 🍅 can, that sometimes might bite you in the rear end. I’d argue that Temple is usually a much better football team than what the SEC powers are presently playing on “a bye week”.
 

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FYI…we play UMass on November 11, 2023

What is the reason for that? It's because for whatever reason, Penn State had two open weeks in 2022 (9/30 and 11/11) when these games were scheduled (2019). Did some other schools back out? To use your word, that's an 'outlier' for Penn State/B1G teams.
 
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Believe we have a rule that we have to play 9 conference games. That impacts everything else. I don't think cheating to keep your record better and improve your standing for the playoff is 'smart' as much as it is 'slimy', but it is what it is. I mean - Mercer? New Mexico State? C'mon.
Wrong. They haven't broken any rules. How is it they are cheating?
 
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Ok. Gamesmanship. It’s yet another example of the uneven playing field in college football and the efforts teams will go to win.
The B1G does not dictate rules for the rest of college football. If the conference wants to play more conference games that is on them and them alone. Your focus is misguided. If the SEC teams were that bad, how is it they tend to do well in their bowls?