Say what you want but.... This staff did an AMAZING JOB

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The fact we were this competitive vs #4 team in the nation, on the road, VS a FAR more talented & far more experienced team is a testament to the quality of this staff.

Look at OU's recruiting the past 5 years, now look at WVU's & subtract all the players that left WVU, and all the players that OU gained... NO WAY should this game be this close.

This staff continues to outperform and this proves we are just a few pieces away from competing on a National level again. Given enough time, this staff will take us where we want to be. Progress can still be identified in a tough loss. While I know to loss like we did via bad snap in FG range is difficult, we know we have the right staff & schemes in place for when Brown has time to resolve issues via recruiting, which he is certainly doing.

We are definitely on the right track, just a couple more small steps.....
 

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This coach knows this teams limitations. Gave them a chance to win and if not for mistakes on 2 consecutive drives like the procedure on O-line then a horrible snap by the center for a 35 yard loss.
 

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First series in the halves... offense runs like a machine... from then on out... it's zero rhythm.

Defense shifts to that soft zone late in games when it's close (like we did last week against VT), but up to that point they play great.

It was mental mistakes that lost the game tonight.
 

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First series in the halves... offense runs like a machine... from then on out... it's zero rhythm.

Defense shifts to that soft zone late in games when it's close (like we did last week against VT), but up to that point they play great.

It was mental mistakes that lost the game tonight.
Now that one ticked me off. That soft zone with 3:42 left. Keep the pressure on as the D-line was dominating them.
 

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Whiny fans are always waiting for better times a year or two in the future. NB is a loser...his record against Big 12 teams and all D1 teams say so. But hey we're still mediocre...let's go burn a couch.
 

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**** that. I'm so sorry for the players. Watching this team play and knowing what is possible while knowing how hamstrung they are by forces outside their control makes it so difficult to watch.

I'll put it in a context for some of the posters touched more by the angels than the typical person. It's like watching a Middle School team being led by a PG who can't dribble with his left hand while the backup handles the ball like Pistol Pete.
 

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Whiny fans are always waiting for better times a year or two in the future. NB is a loser...his record against Big 12 teams and all D1 teams say so. But hey we're still mediocre...let's go burn a couch.
Shame you don't make the decision. That's what is ******* funny about it.
 

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**** that. I'm so sorry for the players. Watching this team play and knowing what is possible while knowing how hamstrung they are by forces outside their control makes it so difficult to watch.

I'll put it in a context for some of the posters touched more by the angels than the typical person. It's like watching a Middle School team being led by a PG who can't dribble with his left hand while the backup handles the ball like Pistol Pete.
Apply for AD job. You can do something about it. Instead of bitching like little girl.
 

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Wasn't bad snap Doege wasn't ready. Chris Anderson reported they were discussing it on the sideline.
Last time I considered the edxchange between Center and someone else to START a play the snap is dictated by the one to receive the ball even when the actual snap is on a silent count. There was some sort of mixup in communication. Doubt we ever really hear exactly what transpired. Simply stated---the ball was snapped before the one receiving the ball uttered sounds to indicate the desire for the snap. It was a a disaster (second one this year). a
 

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The coaches had the team as ready to play as they could be, no doubt. We shot ourselves in the foot or it would've been a win, which is a big deal against Oklahomers. We got Daygayed, and the OL continues to choose the worst times for false starts. But we played hard, and especially the D. They played a stellar game. Neal Brown just needs to learn how to bench Doege like he did in the Liberty Bowl and we could be alright.
 

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Shame you don't make the decision. That's what is ****ing funny about it.
Does it really matter who's making the decisions? NB hasn't won a game that he isn't expected to win. My record as a HC wouldn't be much worse than his by simply relying on the talent of the players. Give me his roster, his assistant coaches, facilities, and WVU name recognition and I'd win as many games simply by relying on the skill of players and the ability of my support staff. I'd do it for less than 400k a year and I'd probably win MORE games by simply staying out of the way of my D coordinator......oh, and also being self-aware enough to hire an offensive coordinator. Addition by subtraction and morons within the WVU fanbase would think I'm Saban and Bryant and Johnson all rolled into one....for simply getting out of the way.
 

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Does it really matter who's making the decisions? NB hasn't won a game that he isn't expected to win. My record as a HC wouldn't be much worse than his by simply relying on the talent of the players. Give me his roster, his assistant coaches, facilities, and WVU name recognition and I'd win as many games simply by relying on the skill of players and the ability of my support staff. I'd do it for less than 400k a year and I'd probably win MORE games by simply staying out of the way of my D coordinator......oh, and also being self-aware enough to hire an offensive coordinator. Addition by subtraction and morons within the WVU fanbase would think I'm Saban and Bryant and Johnson all rolled into one....for simply getting out of the way.
#15 Virginia Tech claimed by you as a loss. Even though WVU was favored. This forum is troll heaven until WVU starts winning. Enjoy your trolling.
 

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#15 Virginia Tech claimed by you as a loss. Even though WVU was favored. This forum is troll heaven until WVU starts winning. Enjoy your trolling.
I thought it was telling that VT dropped completely out of the top 25 after we barely beat them. Being ranked 15 that is a big drop. They are not and were not the 15th best team in the nation though as we all know that. By the end of season they wont even be in discussion for the top 25. But, they are still VT and we have the black diamond trophy, so its a big deal for WVU regardless of rankings.
 

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I thought it was telling that VT dropped completely out of the top 25 after we barely beat them. Being ranked 15 that is a big drop. They are not and were not the 15th best team in the nation though as we all know that. By the end of season they wont even be in discussion for the top 25. But, they are still VT and we have the black diamond trophy, so its a big deal for WVU regardless of rankings.
I knew that from the beginning. Most on here thought it was automatic loss. Just proves some here ***** just as much about wins as losses.
 

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I knew that from the beginning. Most on here thought it was automatic loss. Just proves some here ***** just as much about wins as losses.
Its actually possible to be happy your team won but also be able to recognize blatant weaknesses at the same time.
 

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The game basically came down to this - this is still a team that doesn't know how to win. Plays fantastically at times then gets tentative like they are expecting something bad to happen which inevitably does.

WVU lost this game - Oklahoma didn't win it. Big difference there.

The false start on the goal line. Doege missing the TD pass that a middle school QB could make. The false snap, then the bad one right after. A defense that had played lights out but was gassed on the last two Oklahoma drives which fortunately only led to one score.

Did so many things right but couldn't figure out how to win. We are a really good football team. We are one QB away from being a great football team. But until this team learns how to step on the throat of the opponent, to want to crush them, then there will be a lot more games like this, even against inferior competition.

Oh well, on to next week.
 
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Does it really matter who's making the decisions? NB hasn't won a game that he isn't expected to win. My record as a HC wouldn't be much worse than his by simply relying on the talent of the players. Give me his roster, his assistant coaches, facilities, and WVU name recognition and I'd win as many games simply by relying on the skill of players and the ability of my support staff. I'd do it for less than 400k a year and I'd probably win MORE games by simply staying out of the way of my D coordinator......oh, and also being self-aware enough to hire an offensive coordinator. Addition by subtraction and morons within the WVU fanbase would think I'm Saban and Bryant and Johnson all rolled into one....for simply getting out of the way.
He beat a ranked KState team, he managed to get that 2019 team to 5 wins, which he should have won Coach of the Year award for considering the talent & experience he inherited. NB has outperformed every pre-season win totals to date... He also just beat a #15 VTech and if it wasnt for Doege missing a throw or a bad snap, would have beat a #4 OU team on the road, vs a FAR more talented & far more experienced team.

Look at OU's recruiting the last 5 years, Now look at WVU's, look at the players that left WVU, look at the players OU gained(portal).... NO WAY should we have been competitive in this game.

We could not ask for a better HC! This proves we are just a few pieces away from competing on a National level, and Brown is certainly showing he is resolving via recruiting. Give him time, and we'll be where we want to be.

BY every metric possible, Brown & this staff is outperforming relative to what he inherited and whats the talent & experience on this roster. If you dont see that, then you dont really know or follow football.

WVU had a 17.5 spread, and could have easily won if not for a couple mental errors.... ON THE ROAD vs #4, a **** coach would have been blown out and everyone who bet on OU to cover would have won money
 
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In the end its another Neal Brown game scoring 14 or less that they lost.

How the heck is the starting center misfiring like that 4 games in?
 

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Its called several things. Probably the most common is "buck fever".

Anyone who hunts knows that feeling. Did everything before the season and during the season right. Now the biggest buck of your life is standing broadside 30 yards away and you start shaking so much in anticipation you totally miss the shot. We've all been there, especially when we were younger. Some folks never get over it no matter how old they get.

That's what happened to Frazier. Trying to make the right call, trying to make the block, all this going on and muscle memory failed him. He panics, snaps it too low, too quick, and too hard. He wanted that ball out of his hands.

That's why I mentioned this team still doesn't know how to win. If it wasn't Frazier it probably would have been someone else - Greene fumbles trying to get extra yardage, Doege throws another interception, Sam James drops a wide open touchdown pass, Legg misses a chip shot field goal.

Saw this in several games yesterday across the country yesterday. It'll happen some more this year.
 

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Does it really matter who's making the decisions? NB hasn't won a game that he isn't expected to win. My record as a HC wouldn't be much worse than his by simply relying on the talent of the players. Give me his roster, his assistant coaches, facilities, and WVU name recognition and I'd win as many games simply by relying on the skill of players and the ability of my support staff. I'd do it for less than 400k a year and I'd probably win MORE games by simply staying out of the way of my D coordinator......oh, and also being self-aware enough to hire an offensive coordinator. Addition by subtraction and morons within the WVU fanbase would think I'm Saban and Bryant and Johnson all rolled into one....for simply getting out of the way.
And where is it that you coach? Would love to see your record and accomplishments.
Sound to me to be a self inflating braggart who is a lot of hot air and limited weight above the shoulders to keep the human mass anchored to reality while living in their own fantasy World.
Another to the scrap heap of worthless to know, follow , and read the trash spewed forth.
On to the "IGNORE" file where such trashy nonsense rightly belongs!
 

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He beat a ranked KState team, he managed to get that 2019 team to 5 wins, which he should have won Coach of the Year award for considering the talent & experience he inherited. NB has outperformed every pre-season win totals to date... He also just beat a #15 VTech and if it wasnt for Doege missing a throw or a bad snap, would have beat a #4 OU team on the road, vs a FAR more talented & far more experienced team.

Look at OU's recruiting the last 5 years, Now look at WVU's, look at the players that left WVU, look at the players OU gained(portal).... NO WAY should we have been competitive in this game.

We could not ask for a better HC! This proves we are just a few pieces away from competing on a National level, and Brown is certainly showing he is resolving via recruiting. Give him time, and we'll be where we want to be.

BY every metric possible, Brown & this staff is outperforming relative to what he inherited and whats the talent & experience on this roster. If you dont see that, theyn you dont really know or follow football.

WVU had a 17.5 spread, and could have easily won if not for a couple mental errors.... ON THE ROAD vs #4, a **** coach would have been blown out and everyone who bet on OU to cover would have won money
And mommy I passed math with a D+...better than expected. And I only failed half my other classes. Am I special...please tell me I'm special. What a dork.
 
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