Scoop Lemond

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Nothing really. Same thing most of this board thought that there may be a commitment this morning.
 
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Insiders for UK suck ***. We keep giving them views and financial incentives with clicks, likes, and interaction.

God bless Scoop, but he doesn't know any more than a coin flip in the portal era. Nobody does.

There are no uk insiders. I started saying that last year and its even more clear now. Jones and co know nothing unless they steal it from someone. They used to have info, but no more.

Joe Tipton is the only person who actually knows things nationwide but he doesn't scoop anything because it hurts his tiptonedits gig.

The only legit info comes from the nil world and that comes from random Twitter accounts with only a few thousand followers and an account that only lasts a few weeks before its nuked.
 

The_Catfather

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With money involved now, nothing is official until they sign the papers and enroll in school. Pope had to make an emergency flight to Philly to lockdown Amari Williams after he'd already been committed.

The national guys get their scoops from agents so they're typically the ones with the best info. But no one bats 1.000 when there's crazy money being thrown around. I think some UK fans put too much stock in the Twitter "insiders" as well. The ones with 60 followers that either get info from behind paywalls or just make **** up.
 
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I have heard them be right lots of times also. They are like just about every college "insider" nowadays....NIL, agents and last minute bidding wars make inside information worthless because it can change by the minute.

If you heard them be right anytime in the last 3-4 years its because they saw or heard the info elsewhere and passed it off as theirs.

They get nothing from uk. Nothing.
 
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They were not. It was a random Twitter account who called several other things days before and since changed their handle and stopped posting cbb content.

Ksr hasnt had basketball info in forever, not since coach o's first stint.

Samuel is back, and he too thought LW was coming here. It was everyone duped. This was a big circle jerk of epic proportions. Agent drove the price up by getting UK on the kid. We weren’t even on him when they reached out.

This isn’t just Maggard or KSR, or HOB/Pilgrim, etc. it was literally everyone, including most IU insiders. Agent/camp was feeding “good vibes” info to everyone. Guess what, it worked like a charm.

DeVries made a special trip with an extra big bag of money just this morning to push it over the top (totally not necessary as the dude was not coming here anyway apparently). To boot, gave his buddy/trainer a job!? Wow man. Nice work agent. I’d be willing to bet Mark is weary of this guy moving forward.

To everyone who posted info, sources, inside scoop, intel, etc about LW coming to KY - we were completely used and ******. Info was actually legit, cause that is what they told everyone very indirectly.
 
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Ok, who are the insiders that do get info from UK? So I can know who to listen to.

There are none. Thats exactly what i said above. The only info that comes out is on the nil side and its tied to the player, not the school.

Samuel is back, and he too thought LW was coming here. It was everyone duped. This was a big circle jerk of epic proportions. Agent drove the price up by getting UK on the kid. We weren’t even on him when they reached out.

This isn’t just Maggard or KSR, or HOB/Pilgrim, etc. it was literally everyone, including most IU insiders. Agent/camp was feeding “good vibes” info to everyone. Guess what, it worked like a charm.

DeVries made a special trip with an extra big bag of money just this morning to push it over the top (totally not necessary as the dude was not coming here anyway apparently). To boot, gave his buddy/trainer a job!? Wow man. Nice work agent. I’d be willing to bet Mark is weary of this guy moving forward.

To everyone who posted info, sources, inside scoop, intel, etc about LW coming to KY - we were completely used and ****ed. Info was actually legit, cause that is what they told everyone very indirectly.

I have no doubt that IU dropped a bag we couldn't/wouldn't match and it changed everything. I think its important to note things can change in an instant now that money drives everything. So even though people said something, it well could've been right at the time.

All that said, pretty clear noone at ksr had a source on this other than something they read elsewhere.
 
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At least we have MeManboy.

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Tprinceuk

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I really wish we just heard someone visited us the next day it came out the visit went good and then he chose his school, if it happened that way with Wilkerson I wouldn't really care he went to Indiana, but that whole night he was coming to Kentucky and then boom he didn't. I wish there were no such thing as insiders and it just played out behind the scenes.
 

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Samuel is back, and he too thought LW was coming here. It was everyone duped. This was a big circle jerk of epic proportions. Agent drove the price up by getting UK on the kid. We weren’t even on him when they reached out.

This isn’t just Maggard or KSR, or HOB/Pilgrim, etc. it was literally everyone, including most IU insiders. Agent/camp was feeding “good vibes” info to everyone. Guess what, it worked like a charm.

DeVries made a special trip with an extra big bag of money just this morning to push it over the top (totally not necessary as the dude was not coming here anyway apparently). To boot, gave his buddy/trainer a job!? Wow man. Nice work agent. I’d be willing to bet Mark is weary of this guy moving forward.

To everyone who posted info, sources, inside scoop, intel, etc about LW coming to KY - we were completely used and ****ed. Info was actually legit, cause that is what they told everyone very indirectly.

Hindsight always the explanation and applied too a complete failure of communication. We got played, and the so called insiders throwing info,and hoping it might stick . A process that Never ends to those" so called "on giving inside info .
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TeoJ

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I really wish we just heard someone visited us the next day it came out the visit went good and then he chose his school, if it happened that way with Wilkerson I wouldn't really care he went to Indiana, but that whole night he was coming to Kentucky and then boom he didn't. I wish there were no such thing as insiders and it just played out behind the scenes.
Pretty simple don't read any thing about recruiting that should take care of your issues.
 

Worf88

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I listened to the podcast last night after we’d lost Lamar and it’s comedy knowing the outcome. Their confidence was high. “I’d be shocked if he picked Indiana.” Then started predicting starting lineups with him already in it.
 

Worf88

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There are none. Thats exactly what i said above. The only info that comes out is on the nil side and its tied to the player, not the school.



I have no doubt that IU dropped a bag we couldn't/wouldn't match and it changed everything. I think its important to note things can change in an instant now that money drives everything. So even though people said something, it well could've been right at the time.

All that said, pretty clear noone at ksr had a source on this other than something they read elsewhere.
If money really was the difference then that’s pathetic on everyone’s part. ESPECIALLY if it was the case that we just didn’t want to match it but could. Letting a guy walk that could be the difference between winning the title and not even making a final four should be grounds for your seat getting warm.