Seems like Nobody Cares about Championships

Anon1641512836

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It’s all about the bag of cash. Kinda sickening really. Traveling all star teams, pretty soon they will stop calling traveling and palming the ball. There has to be some parameters set. This process of portaling every damn year will be maddening. Sadly, it’s still a process of one and done. You should only be able to attend 2 schools in a 4 year period. There should be a cap on the amount of money involved. College Basketball as we have known it is over. Not sure I like this ****.
 

Hopmix

Senior
Mar 7, 2011
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yeah I ranted a out this on reddit earlier in the season. The product is ruined. These dudes are professionals now and we already have a professional league that is pretty damn great right now. So what are we doing here? This is G league jr and the only thing keeping it a float is a fans nostalgia of years past. I never imagined saying this 10 years ago but I think the NBA is a better product now and I could prolly stop caring about it and not really miss it.
 

Bigtyrone

All-American
May 21, 2002
10,532
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The NCAA was overstepping for decades, and this is the result. They really screwed the pooch not putting some kind of framework in place. Now that won’t happen without some kind of collective bargaining agreement.

But, you know, free market…. That’s where we are now. The NCAA makes literally billions of dollars, it’s about time that the players get their share. It’s obscene coaches make $5 million + and the star players got only a scholarship when there are billions of dollars bouncing around.
 

RunninRichie

Heisman
Sep 5, 2019
27,938
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yeah I ranted a out this on reddit earlier in the season. The product is ruined. These dudes are professionals now and we already have a professional league that is pretty damn great right now. So what are we doing here? This is G league jr and the only thing keeping it a float is a fans nostalgia of years past. I never imagined saying this 10 years ago but I think the NBA is a better product now and I could prolly stop caring about it and not really miss it.
The NBA is in its worst spot ever. But I agree with the rest.
 

RunninRichie

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Sep 5, 2019
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The NCAA was overstepping for decades, and this is the result. They really screwed the pooch not putting some kind of framework in place. Now that won’t happen without some kind of collective bargaining agreement.

But, you know, free market…. That’s where we are now. The NCAA makes literally billions of dollars, it’s about time that the players get their share. It’s obscene coaches make $5 million + and the star players got only a scholarship when there are billions of dollars bouncing around.
Only a scholarship? Only free education, a stipend, access to team trainers and medical care, free meals, free housing at some schools. Oh those poor souls.... I would have killed for ''only a scholarship''.
 

wardlow

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Aug 21, 2018
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The NCAA was overstepping for decades, and this is the result. They really screwed the pooch not putting some kind of framework in place. Now that won’t happen without some kind of collective bargaining agreement.

But, you know, free market…. That’s where we are now. The NCAA makes literally billions of dollars, it’s about time that the players get their share. It’s obscene coaches make $5 million + and the star players got only a scholarship when there are billions of dollars bouncing around.
You’re not wrong. The ncaa pushed it off long enough to let other people fund NiL and allow them to keep all their proceeds. The ncaa should be sharing as well.
 

MegaBlue05

Heisman
Mar 8, 2014
10,314
19,651
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I'm not a fan of this evolution. The old way was too one-sided in favor of the member institutions, and the new way is the exact opposite. Since the illusion of these being amatuers who are getting an education and playing for the love of their university is gone forever, I wouldn't be opposed to collective bargaining, but have no idea how it would work.

Ideally, the unlimited free transfers needs to stop. Pro sports free agency isn't that absurd. I think 1 freebie and 1 "old school" sit a year per career is plenty with the exception of hardship waivers. But, I know the genie isn't going back in the bottle with this issue.

If the constant turnover becomes unwatchable, changes will be made or the sport will die.
 

saxonburgcat

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Aug 22, 2012
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I hate to break it to you but it has always been about money. They just don't have to hide it now.

This! What is different is the AMOUNT of money. Starting to pay coaches close to $10m per year should have been the biggest red flag that this scheme to enrich a few would not last.
 
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permdaddy_rivals45705

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Mar 29, 2002
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Good for the guys getting money but I'm not a fan of the way things are. The school doesn't matter. What conference you're in doesn't matter. It's all about money. There are a few kids where it's about the relationship with the coach but the money still has to be there.
 
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mrhotdice

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Nov 1, 2002
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The NCAA was overstepping for decades, and this is the result. They really screwed the pooch not putting some kind of framework in place. Now that won’t happen without some kind of collective bargaining agreement.

But, you know, free market…. That’s where we are now. The NCAA makes literally billions of dollars, it’s about time that the players get their share. It’s obscene coaches make $5 million + and the star players got only a scholarship when there are billions of dollars bouncing around.
They get an education if they want it without 250,000 of debt.
 

RalphDaltonFan

Heisman
Apr 3, 2002
60,118
41,381
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It’s all about the bag of cash. Kinda sickening really. Traveling all star teams, pretty soon they will stop calling traveling and palming the ball. There has to be some parameters set. This process of portaling every damn year will be maddening. Sadly, it’s still a process of one and done. You should only be able to attend 2 schools in a 4 year period. There should be a cap on the amount of money involved. College Basketball as we have known it is over. Not sure I like this ****.
The only difference financially is it's out in the open now. This really has been going on for a long time-only it's legal so the other programs who followed the rules or used them as their excuse to not participate on the level you are seeing have joined the fray.

Some of us tried to tell everyone that "Front of the Jersey" thing sounds great to fans and is cool to say-but to get them to wear the jersey at all-you have to engage in making these guys happy with:

1. $
2. Playing Time

The thing that is interesting is how some coaches then turn around and coach them harder than ever because these guys are openly getting paid and are "employees" and others coddle and make excuses (our recent and now ex HC).

Front the Jersey still matters to some, but the Portal isn't where you find that. There's a reason they are all leaving/looking for new opportunities and it's not out of passion for where they are going.
 

wildcat_bigd

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Mar 27, 2009
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yeah I ranted a out this on reddit earlier in the season. The product is ruined. These dudes are professionals now and we already have a professional league that is pretty damn great right now. So what are we doing here? This is G league jr and the only thing keeping it a float is a fans nostalgia of years past. I never imagined saying this 10 years ago but I think the NBA is a better product now and I could prolly stop caring about it and not really miss it.
Reddit, really, no offense but did Pioneer Woman respond?
 
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Trinity45

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It’s all about the bag of cash. Kinda sickening really. Traveling all star teams, pretty soon they will stop calling traveling and palming the ball. There has to be some parameters set. This process of portaling every damn year will be maddening. Sadly, it’s still a process of one and done. You should only be able to attend 2 schools in a 4 year period. There should be a cap on the amount of money involved. College Basketball as we have known it is over. Not sure I like this ****.
Well hate to break it to you they really don't call palming, if you took a kid today back in time to say 1985 that kid would not be able to bring the ball up the court without palming being called. Is that rule even in the rule book any more. Yes it is about the cash, and you have Jerry Jones trying to buy a team by out bidding everyone. I do agree after you transfer once there should be some penalty for constantly transferring. I personally hope congress creates a federal rule that governs NIL but that ain't happening anytime soon.
 

buster3.0

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Aug 10, 2009
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You know, if no one gave a **** about UK ball, like say UK women's golf, then this would be a non issue. It would be a true collegiate sport. True student athletes.

It is adults obsession and passion for this that has led us here. Like SEC football. If grown *** adults are willing to throw millions, hundreds of millions, into a amatuer sport, this is the result. The athletes finally realize the leverage and power they have.

Again, not a problem with collegiate women's golf.
 

BluestBlood

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The NCAA was overstepping for decades, and this is the result. They really screwed the pooch not putting some kind of framework in place. Now that won’t happen without some kind of collective bargaining agreement.

But, you know, free market…. That’s where we are now. The NCAA makes literally billions of dollars, it’s about time that the players get their share. It’s obscene coaches make $5 million + and the star players got only a scholarship when there are billions of dollars bouncing around.
But the NCAA is still making billions and they aren’t paying the players, we, the fans and tax payers aka NIL sponsors are footing the bill for these players, NCAA still making billions off the product without losing a dime…
 
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ToniTonyToneDelkDelkDelk

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Feb 20, 2007
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All of this is what makes me leery about our new situation. We're banking on kids caring about a rabid fanbase and tradition. Those were our strengths in the past.

Kids nowadays don't care about any of that. It's the pros and money they can make now. Kinda feels like our approach is gonna go the way of the dodo. It's pretty crappy to watch, but we've seen the decline over the last few years, like right after the 2020 team.
 

*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
43,122
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I hate to break it to you but it has always been about money. They just don't have to hide it now.
Yes but at least in the past dudes couldn’t play till they were 27 and could only transfer in specific ways. They at least need that for some roster stability.