Seen Bama has another 4* QB
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Nope.
Danny Clark is visiting again this weekend. Be on commitment alert.
Jarren Williams and Danny Clark should have UK fans attention.
Danny Clark is visiting again this weekend. Be on commitment alert.
Jarren Williams and Danny Clark should have UK fans attention.
I agree that the ship has sailed on Jones. Clark is an impressive specimen. He is raw but he has an absolute cannon.
Nobody here should care about Mac Jones or whatever happens to him. Even if he moved on from Bama, he made it clear he wanted to be somewhere else and we moved on
I would think the ship here is sailing and he will have other options
Same as Wills.... we move on at some point. I'm coming to the opinion we will avenge any loss with another guy and a good one. We may not always get our first option but we are getting good options but we need defensive line
The problem right now is development once they are here and putting it all together
I would think the ship here is sailing and he will have other options
Same as Wills.... we move on at some point. I'm coming to the opinion we will avenge any loss with another guy and a good one. We may not always get our first option but we are getting good options but we need defensive line
The problem right now is development once they are here and putting it all together
I don't think Mac Jones ever suits up as a Bama player, nor do I think he ever suits up as a Kentucky Wildcat. I am very excited about Clark and Williams - both are extraordinary talents.
Wasn't sure seems it will work itself out. I don't see Jones ever taking a snap at Bama unless its his sr season there of mega injuries from that position.
Many of these players have strong arms, we need a QB that has got it between the ears. aka Mike Hartline.
That's the kind of player that gets overlooked.
Just MHO
Why star QBs even commit to BAMA is beyond me? They have a new Starter just about every year and give you little time to develop. It's either come in and contribute right away or they find somebody else who will. There is no time to waste. Now Jalen Hurts is an interesting prospect being a true freshman but it will be interesting to see how long he remains a starter. Saben has no problem having a short leash, that he doesn't mind pulling on if you're not producing good results. And it snot like they are sending QBs into the league and an alarming rate.
Why would you say that? The kid had serious interest in us, but got an offer from the best program around. It sucks for us, but it's good for the kid. Wish him good luck and move on. Statements like you wrote is what was giving BBN a bad rep in social media.
Hurts is a very special player. Reminds me of VooDoo on FNL... :joy:
Jones no longer had interest in UK and committed to Bama. Wish him the best but I sure wouldn't recruit him further even if he decommitted.
Because they all have the confidence that they can "be the man" as opposed to just looking for the easiest path to playing time. 4 and 5 star players are the norm at Bama. As they say, if you want to be the best you have to beat the best.
I've stated before that one of the reasons I think so many highly ranked recruits fail at UK is because they came to UK thinking that they won't have to work as hard to play...and they don't. Give me a kid with a chip on their shoulder and the desire to work their *** off vs a kid with worlds of potential but not the fortitude to reach that potential.
I agree. But the QB will always play second fiddle behind their running game. You can be the man all you want but you're gonna have to literally change the philosophy of Bama coaching staff specifically Saben. That's why Hurts is in there now. His ability to run the ball has basically put him in the driver seat.
I don't think the crux of my intended point and yours is that far off. "Move on" meaning I don't wish him any ill will but color me shocked Bama would recruit over him. I can't say I feel horribly for him because he put us in a difficult situation not honoring his commitments as well. Such is the game but I honestly don't care where he ends up. We seem to be heading toward getting good guys who actually do want to be here
Danny Clark is the pick. We will be fine. He has a lot of talent and if the Urban Legend likes him that is good enough for me. Good looking QB. Great job Stoops, Hinshaw and Big dog Marrow if he signs.
I agree with you about .000001% of the time, but this is one of those rare times that I completely agree with you. I think this has been the downfall of much of the 2014 class.
Yeah, i'm a bit perplexed as to why Bama is able to haul in 4-5 elite QBs. I mean get that they are Bama, but after two elite QBs sign each year, why in the heck would the third guy sign?
They're about like notre dame. Sign elite QBs but none of them ever develop to really wow you, and none pan out in the Pros.
If I'm a top QB I'm looking for playing time, not necessarily right away but by the time i'm a rs frosh i want to be in the hunt and definitely leader in the club house the following year.
If you go to Bama, Notre Dame, among other top tier places, by the time you redshirt and maybe hold the clipboard for a year you have 3-4 more top guys on the roster behind you and maybe in front of you.
That's one thing that has always frustrated me with UK and recruiting. How in the world have we not been able to land one top gunslinger and legit pro caliber QB?
It's the easiest pitch ever. "sign with us and you will play, you will be a hero, you will get pro consideration if we just go .500"
I mean a top 4* - 5* kid can walk on campus next summer and start, and I can't remember a time when that wasn't the case. Our QB situation has never been so strong that the incumbent wasn't in doubt and couldn't be beat out by legit talent.
They're about like notre dame. Sign elite QBs but none of them ever develop to really wow you, and none pan out in the Pros.
If I'm a top QB I'm looking for playing time, not necessarily right away but by the time i'm a rs frosh i want to be in the hunt and definitely leader in the club house the following year.
If you go to Bama, Notre Dame, among other top tier places, by the time you redshirt and maybe hold the clipboard for a year you have 3-4 more top guys on the roster behind you and maybe in front of you.
That's one thing that has always frustrated me with UK and recruiting. How in the world have we not been able to land one top gunslinger and legit pro caliber QB?
It's the easiest pitch ever. "sign with us and you will play, you will be a hero, you will get pro consideration if we just go .500"
I mean a top 4* - 5* kid can walk on campus next summer and start, and I can't remember a time when that wasn't the case. Our QB situation has never been so strong that the incumbent wasn't in doubt and couldn't be beat out by legit talent.
An intriguing observation on Mac Jones vs. Danny Clark to me is this is how it feels like they break down.
- Mac Jones isn't a big running type of QB...but probably a more accurate passer
- Danny Clark w/o a doubt is a bigger kid and better on his feet....but maybe not quite as strong on passing. (hard to tell with HS tapes).
In the end, with Gran at the helm and way more adapt as truly running read option and have the QB keep it and run it...would Clark be a better fit with his size and feet to give us a true running threat?
- Mac Jones isn't a big running type of QB...but probably a more accurate passer
- Danny Clark w/o a doubt is a bigger kid and better on his feet....but maybe not quite as strong on passing. (hard to tell with HS tapes).
In the end, with Gran at the helm and way more adapt as truly running read option and have the QB keep it and run it...would Clark be a better fit with his size and feet to give us a true running threat?
I've seen a cannon for an arm for several years at UK. Not overly impressed and would rather see an accurate arm, good wheels and smart.
Absolutely agree on Jones.
UM liked him as a SO, not so much as a SR since he recruited over him. But a good player for us.
If you are worried about competition then you really don't have that much confidence in your ability. If you think you have NFL ability then why are you worried about who else they bring in?
If you're worried about competition, it is doubtful you're going to be on a good team. Competition makes you better.
I agree with this. My daughter will be a UK athlete next year and met Mac on a visit, became friends and stayed in touch a lot back then, not so much now. I know he was very serious about UK and liked them a lot.
Think the door was still open for us but the Clark thing could have changed that.
Yeah, that's the conventional wisdom on the issue. I tend to agree to a certain extent.
If you're a top linemen, WR, LB, i get it. Go to a top program, compete for a few years, earn your stripes, etc.
The QB is slightly different. Only one really get's to play.
5-6 WRs are going to rotate in and out and get some run. On the defensive side there are all sorts or substitutions and schemes that allow for a lot of different players to play.
I understand the alpha mentality/ego of "well i'm the best I will play", but at some point common sense and reality have to kick in.
As a top tier talent, your chances of getting the nod and keeping it at these top tier programs are slimmer.
At some point, if you have real pro aspirations you have to realize that 12-15 QBs are going to get drafted in 7 rounds. The kid that wasn't a top recruit who gets 3-4 years of run on film at NDSU, Memphis, Eastern Illinois, Miami OH, Vanderbilt, or Delaware will get drafted or at least a free agency try out before the kid who very well may have more talent but sat the bench at Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, OSU, etc...
All that competition against the best of the best in practice does you no good if you don't play.
Bama's second and third string guys probably have all the talent in the world. They're going to sit behind Hurtz the next few seasons. Whereas they could bounce or have initially gone to UK, be the starter, and in 3 years time have a legit shot at getting some draft attention.
Well it could be that your thought process is flawed. Maybe like with UK basketball great players want to play with other great players and there is also that they will contend for the NC every year. Sometimes these matters overload playing time.
Apples to oranges.
The top 10 basketball players can all sign with UK. They will all play. See platoon. In fact they don't even have to play, they can sit out. See Kanter.
Basketball is a different sport. It does not require 3 years of collegiate tape. A kid can sign with UK, get a try out in front of 90 nba front office people and scouts and decide to sit the year. He will get drafted.
A lot of lottery picks are decided in high school/aau circuits before they even sign with a school. Basketball talent projects differently than football talent, and most franchises have these kids on their radar long before they set foot on a campus.
Football players need college to develop and show what they can do. NFL drafts not only on potential but production. What has the kid done? Has he shown over a period of time that he can make pro throws, catches, tackles, blocks, etc...
3 top qbs going to the same place, one will play the others will sit barring disaster or injury.
Now, if your goal is not pros or even a significant amount of college pt because you understand your abilities and realize that you are going into another profession, sure go to bama or one of the big boys and live it up, ride the gravy train.
I agree with you but in fairness we just now got an oc and qb coach that i feel like will stay long enough to develop our qbs correctly
I don't even pay attention until they sign their LOI. Why stress over what some kid does. More often than not, those kids don't work out where they end up because looking around is in their nature. The grass is always greener to them.
Why should we move on from Wills. I don't believe he has committed to anyone else, including Alabama. Let's not move on until he is committed. Were not in any position to tell a player to commit,or were moving on. Alabama or Ohio State can do that, but UK can't. Hopefully, some day we can, but not now.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
Fans.... not the staff! Haha they still have to do their job
I just hate to see fans working up over him
I would take Jones in a heart beat if he wanted to come back. If he doesn't I'm fine with who we have coming in.
When I started this thread I didn't know about Jarren Williams. After I looked him up etc... I am fine if Mac never touchs campus with Jarren coming in. Plus Clark isnt to shabby as well. I am really excited about Williams to bad he is 2 seasons away from coming to UK!! Would love to have his talent now!!