So.. what do we need to make it?

[ricko6543211]

I know it depends on lots of things etc. But if I had to put a number on it, I'd say 10-10 in conference. BTT win(s) a plus.

Home- Rutgers Minn PSU // OSU Purdue Wiscy... should win the first 3, the other 3 will be tough but doable
Away- Illinois // Wisconsin Maryland Iowa Nebraska OSU... only good news is we got the Michigan schools out of the way, but aside from Illinois every remaining road game will be a very tough one

Get ~5 at home, and ~2 on the road? It's not likely, but it's theoretically possible. Nice win Cats. Great performance by Aaron and Dererk.

 

[torque-cat]

I know it depends on lots of things etc. But if I had to put a number on it, I'd say 10-10 in conference. BTT win(s) a plus.

Home- Rutgers Minn PSU // OSU Purdue Wiscy... should win the first 3, the other 3 will be tough but doable
Away- Illinois // Wisconsin Maryland Iowa Nebraska OSU... only good news is we got the Michigan schools out of the way, but aside from Illinois every remaining road game will be a very tough one

Get ~5 at home, and ~2 on the road? It's not likely, but it's theoretically possible. Nice win Cats. Great performance by Aaron and Dererk.

Based on the team rankings site which I’ve found to be quite accurate we are ranked about 57 in the country—not sure if that is NET based but seems similar. They still give us only a 2% if making tourney. We are solid favorites in 3 games, 2 pick-Em’s, 3 slight dogs and 4 games we are big underdogs. So we need to hold serve on 3 favored games, 3-2 in the pick-em or slight dogs and pull out 1 of the 4 big dog games.

 

[freewillie07]

I just can’t start thinking about this yet. NU has one fine win against Indiana... and what else?

If the Cats can take one of the next two games, @Wisconsin or @Maryland, and then win like they’re supposed to at home against a Penn State team they’ve struggled with in the past, I’ll dare to dream.

But...like...Penn State is winless in conference and 7-12 overall, yet just seven spots behind NU in KenPom, so forgive me for not getting too excited just yet.

 

[torque-cat]

I just can’t start thinking about this yet. NU has one fine win against Indiana... and what else?

If the Cats can take one of the next two games, @Wisconsin or @Maryland, and then win like they’re supposed to at home against a Penn State team they’ve struggled with in the past, I’ll dare to dream.

Why not think about it as long as you’re not delusional. It’s a long shot. Besides 2 straight wins in the BT we have played a tough schedule and not had a single bad loss. If we can win 2 of our next 4 I think we have an exciting final 8 game stretch.

 

[Jonny2TheP]

We still have A LOT of work to do. Indiana is our only good win at this point, and they are a team that is fading and will likely continue to fade with the schedule they have in front of them. By the end of the year, that win may not look that great. We have to win one of these next two road games, and I think it's much more likely we win at Wisconsin than at Maryland. Maryland is big, athletic, and has a ton of talent. We struggle against those teams that are just physically better than we are. We've played Wisconsin tough over the years and I expect we'll go with a similar approach than we have in the past few years- double teaming Happ and trying to make someone else beat us.

As someone else said, then we have to win against Penn State at home before heading out to Iowa, which will be a really tough game to pull off. Iowa is playing well now, and they have been really good at home this season.

Winning these last two has helped a ton, but we still have a very tall task ahead of us if we want to go dancing. I'd say it's very unlikely at this point. Prove me wrong boys.

 

[Titanium999]

I know it depends on lots of things etc. But if I had to put a number on it, I'd say 10-10 in conference. BTT win(s) a plus.

Home- Rutgers Minn PSU // OSU Purdue Wiscy... should win the first 3, the other 3 will be tough but doable
Away- Illinois // Wisconsin Maryland Iowa Nebraska OSU... only good news is we got the Michigan schools out of the way, but aside from Illinois every remaining road game will be a very tough one

Get ~5 at home, and ~2 on the road? It's not likely, but it's theoretically possible. Nice win Cats. Great performance by Aaron and Dererk.

We can do it

 

[Titanium999]

We still have A LOT of work to do. Indiana is our only good win at this point, and they are a team that is fading and will likely continue to fade with the schedule they have in front of them. By the end of the year, that win may not look that great. We have to win one of these next two road games, and I think it's much more likely we win at Wisconsin than at Maryland. Maryland is big, athletic, and has a ton of talent. We struggle against those teams that are just physically better than we are. We've played Wisconsin tough over the years and I expect we'll go with a similar approach than we have in the past few years- double teaming Happ and trying to make someone else beat us.

As someone else said, then we have to win against Penn State at home before heading out to Iowa, which will be a really tough game to pull off. Iowa is playing well now, and they have been really good at home this season.

Winning these last two has helped a ton, but we still have a very tall task ahead of us if we want to go dancing. I'd say it's very unlikely at this point. Prove me wrong boys.

Nebraska is fading also

 

[ricko6543211]

We still have A LOT of work to do. Indiana is our only good win at this point, and they are a team that is fading and will likely continue to fade with the schedule they have in front of them. By the end of the year, that win may not look that great. We have to win one of these next two road games, and I think it's much more likely we win at Wisconsin than at Maryland. Maryland is big, athletic, and has a ton of talent. We struggle against those teams that are just physically better than we are. We've played Wisconsin tough over the years and I expect we'll go with a similar approach than we have in the past few years- double teaming Happ and trying to make someone else beat us.

As someone else said, then we have to win against Penn State at home before heading out to Iowa, which will be a really tough game to pull off. Iowa is playing well now, and they have been really good at home this season.

Winning these last two has helped a ton, but we still have a very tall task ahead of us if we want to go dancing. I'd say it's very unlikely at this point. Prove me wrong boys.

Yeah, I mean I agree. The question wasn't really to assess how likely it is, I think we'd all agree it's pretty unlikely. The question was how many wins do we need to get in.

 

[IdahoAlum]

KenPom predicts NU will finish 17-14, which would put the Cats on the bubble for the NIT. Only one team made the NIT field last year with 17 wins -- Temple, which was 17-15. Under the KenPom scenario, NU would finish 8-12 in the BIG. As someone mentioned above, the chances of the Cats getting into the NCAA at this point are pretty close to zero.

 

[torque-cat]

KenPom predicts NU will finish 17-14, which would put the Cats on the bubble for the NIT. Only one team made the NIT field last year with 17 wins -- Temple, which was 17-15. Under the KenPom scenario, NU would finish 8-12 in the BIG. As someone mentioned above, the chances of the Cats getting into the NCAA at this point are pretty close to zero.

Yup

Yeah, I mean I agree. The question wasn't really to assess how likely it is, I think we'd all agree it's pretty unlikely. The question was how many wins do we need to get in.

Exactly we all acknowledge odds are slim. But if we are ever gonna enjoy the window to be wishful and discuss what it would take, now is the time. A week or two from now it might look more bleak. We need to go 8-5 rest of way to have a real shot. Not likely but not nutso.

 

[ricko6543211]

Based on the team rankings site which I’ve found to be quite accurate we are ranked about 57 in the country—not sure if that is NET based but seems similar. They still give us only a 2% if making tourney. We are solid favorites in 3 games, 2 pick-Em’s, 3 slight dogs and 4 games we are big underdogs. So we need to hold serve on 3 favored games, 3-2 in the pick-em or slight dogs and pull out 1 of the 4 big dog games.

This is a good breakdown of the games. I assume the 3 favored are home Rutty, PSU, Minny. The tossups are probably @IL and home OSU. Slight dogs in the other home games. And then larger dogs in most of the remaining road games (though 1 is being counted as slight dogs).

In any event I agree it's low but I think it's higher than 2%. That is conditional upon us maintaining the same general level of play that we've had YTD. I've seen enough of CC coached teams thus far (or really any college BB team) that I can say that it's quite possible that we improve and maintain positive momentum for here, or that things worsen. The former seems slightly more likely than the latter based on the last two games, but either can happen. But regardless, 2% is based on a static model, which doesn't accurately depict college sports.

Just to throw a number out I'd say it's about 5-7% (1 in 15 to 20). Still quite low....

 

[catsattackfor3]

Not enough quality wins for the committee at this point. I think 17-14 heading into the B1G tourney is about right. NIT would be a long shot depending on if those 1 bid league regular season champs win their conference tournaments or not. That is a lot of ifs

 

[freewillie07]

This is a good breakdown of the games. I assume the 3 favored are home Rutty, PSU, Minny. The tossups are probably @IL and home OSU. Slight dogs in the other home games. And then larger dogs in most of the remaining road games (though 1 is being counted as slight dogs).

In any event I agree it's low but I think it's higher than 2%. That is conditional upon us maintaining the same general level of play that we've had YTD. I've seen enough of CC coached teams thus far (or really any college BB team) that I can say that it's quite possible that we improve and maintain positive momentum for here, or that things worsen. The former seems slightly more likely than the latter based on the last two games, but either can happen. But regardless, 2% is based on a static model, which doesn't accurately depict college sports.

Just to throw a number out I'd say it's about 5-7% (1 in 15 to 20). Still quite low....

Fair enough, as long as we all acknowledge it’s a long shot.

vs PSU, vs Rutgers, @NEB/@OSU, vs Minn, @ILL, vs OSU — that gets a 18-13 (9-11) record and puts NU in the NIT conversation.

Would probably need to at least add one of the next three road games as a W for a true “good win” that could push the Cats onto the Tourney bubble.

 

[Jonny2TheP]

Yeah, I mean I agree. The question wasn't really to assess how likely it is, I think we'd all agree it's pretty unlikely. The question was how many wins do we need to get in.

Gotcha...Yeah, realistically, barring a big BT tourney run, we need to win 8 of these last 12 regular season games to have a shot. The best way to get to that is probably to win all six home games and steal two on the road. If we lose one of those home ones, you got to get at least three on the road. Finding three road wins considering the road schedule (Wisconsin, Maryland, Nebraska, OSU, Iowa, and Illinois) is pretty tough. Illinois would be a must, and I'd also highly recommend winning that Wisconsin one. I'd be shocked if we win at Maryland or Iowa. Nebraska and OSU are tough games, but not impossible.

Nothing is impossible, but a tall task. If we would have somehow pulled out just that Michigan home game, the picture would be much different. We'd have a top 5 win, be .500 in conference, and you'd see a much more realistic path.

 

[torque-cat]

This is a good breakdown of the games. I assume the 3 favored are home Rutty, PSU, Minny. The tossups are probably @IL and home OSU. Slight dogs in the other home games. And then larger dogs in most of the remaining road games (though 1 is being counted as slight dogs).

In any event I agree it's low but I think it's higher than 2%. That is conditional upon us maintaining the same general level of play that we've had YTD. I've seen enough of CC coached teams thus far (or really any college BB team) that I can say that it's quite possible that we improve and maintain positive momentum for here, or that things worsen. The former seems slightly more likely than the latter based on the last two games, but either can happen. But regardless, 2% is based on a static model, which doesn't accurately depict college sports.

Just to throw a number out I'd say it's about 5-7% (1 in 15 to 20). Still quite low....

Agree that the model doesn't account for the way a team is trending--ie health, chemistry etc... I think 5-7% is very reasonable.

 

[ricko6543211]

Not enough quality wins for the committee at this point. I think 17-14 heading into the B1G tourney is about right. NIT would be a long shot depending on if those 1 bid league regular season champs win their conference tournaments or not. That is a lot of ifs

Yeah for median outcome / expectation I've been wavering between 7-13 and 8-12 in conference. After the last two wins, think we are solidly back to the 8-12 side of the ledger (which is the same as 17-14 overall). Here's to hoping we can keep the trend moving higher from there rather than reverting back...

I'm not so worried about the NIT either way, though I suppose it is better than nothing.

 

[ricko6543211]

Gotcha...Yeah, realistically, barring a big BT tourney run, we need to win 8 of these last 12 regular season games to have a shot. The best way to get to that is probably to win all six home games and steal two on the road. If we lose one of those home ones, you got to get at least three on the road. Finding three road wins considering the road schedule (Wisconsin, Maryland, Nebraska, OSU, Iowa, and Illinois) is pretty tough. Illinois would be a must, and I'd also highly recommend winning that Wisconsin one. I'd be shocked if we win at Maryland or Iowa. Nebraska and OSU are tough games, but not impossible.

Nothing is impossible, but a tall task. If we would have somehow pulled out just that Michigan home game, the picture would be much different. We'd have a top 5 win, be .500 in conference, and you'd see a much more realistic path.

Yeah so you are saying 11-9 rather than 10-10. I think given the strength of the B1G, particularly given that we don't have bad OOC losses, 10-10 would get it done, but who knows. In order to get there (to 10-10) almost by definition we'd need a couple strong quality wins. To do that is slightly more doable, because we can afford to drop one at home (running the table seems quite unlikely) and still only need 2 road wins (agree with you that getting 3 would be quite tough). Beating Michigan certainly would have helped, but it is what it is. We also very easily could have lost at home to Illinois.

 

[Jonny2TheP]

Yeah so you are saying 11-9 rather than 10-10. I think given the strength of the B1G, particularly given that we don't have bad OOC losses, 10-10 would get it done, but who knows. In order to get there (to 10-10) almost by definition we'd need a couple strong quality wins. To do that is slightly more doable, because we can afford to drop one at home (running the table seems quite unlikely) and still only need 2 road wins (agree with you that getting 3 would be quite tough). Beating Michigan certainly would have helped, but it is what it is. We also very easily could have lost at home to Illinois.

Oh yeah, definitely agree that it is what it is at this point. Not saying we should have won that Michigan game, just that it would have made things very different right now if we somehow could have pulled it off.

The reason I think we need 11 conference wins is because we lack anything close to a significant OOC win. Surprisingly, that DePaul win isn't looking so bad at this point, but it's still not a resume building win. Yes, to get to 10 wins in conference, we would get some quality wins along the way, but really think the lack of anything out of conference could sting a little. Though I will say a counterpoint to that is that the committee has traditionally said that they really don't pay attention to conferences whether it be with how many bids they give out or where your quality wins come from. So who knows?

 

[scru]

Yeah, I mean I agree. The question wasn't really to assess how likely it is, I think we'd all agree it's pretty unlikely. The question was how many wins do we need to get in.

One. The next game. Win that one. That's all that matters now.

 

[olsh]

Hate to guess because there are so many moving parts.

10+ wins in conference we'll have a great shot at the NCAA
8-9 wins in conference we'll be in solid NIT conversation. The B1G is rated highly this year.
Below 8 wins in conference ...... there's always next year.

 

[Titanium999]

Yeah, I mean I agree. The question wasn't really to assess how likely it is, I think we'd all agree it's pretty unlikely. The question was how many wins do we need to get in.

Have fun

 

[Titanium999]

Gotcha...Yeah, realistically, barring a big BT tourney run, we need to win 8 of these last 12 regular season games to have a shot. The best way to get to that is probably to win all six home games and steal two on the road. If we lose one of those home ones, you got to get at least three on the road. Finding three road wins considering the road schedule (Wisconsin, Maryland, Nebraska, OSU, Iowa, and Illinois) is pretty tough. Illinois would be a must, and I'd also highly recommend winning that Wisconsin one. I'd be shocked if we win at Maryland or Iowa. Nebraska and OSU are tough games, but not impossible.

Nothing is impossible, but a tall task. If we would have somehow pulled out just that Michigan home game, the picture would be much different. We'd have a top 5 win, be .500 in conference, and you'd see a much more realistic path.

Michigan and Oklahoma dang! Very close.

 

[NUCat320]

One. The next game. Win that one. That's all that matters now.

Way to keep your focus.

 

[mikewebb68]

Large chunk of the season left. Making the dance will depend on one thing; continued improvement. We are certainly trending upeard, and you want to be playing your best ball at the end of the season....

 

[ricko6543211]

Large chunk of the season left. Making the dance will depend on one thing; continued improvement. We are certainly trending upeard, and you want to be playing your best ball at the end of the season....

Continued improvement is certainly an important one. Right alongside that in importance: win close games. Closely following those two is: stay healthy.

 

[NJCat]

Closely following those two is: stay healthy.

"Stay"?

Ash done for the year.

Nance out indefinitely.

Law obviously still hurting.

NU is in a pickle.......

 

[ricko6543211]

"Stay"?

Ash done for the year.

Nance out indefinitely.

Law obviously still hurting.

NU is in a pickle.......

Well, fair to some extent, but Ash and Nance are supporting players. Vic missed what 1-2 games and is prob at about 75% last couple games but able to play? Other than Vic’s recent minor injury our top 5 has been unharmed and probably even our Top 6 as Kopp’s been the next guy. I think our injury situation is about median, no doubt it’s worse than some but I’m sure there are plenty of teams that would take only being down a 7th man (for a couple weeks) and 9th man and with a minor injury to a key starter (that cost 1 game and maybe plays hurt for a few more).

I’m not sure what you classify Falzon at as we didn’t expect much from him going into the year but maybe he will contribute more going forward especially while Nance remains ill.

 

[hdhntr1]

Yeah, I mean I agree. The question wasn't really to assess how likely it is, I think we'd all agree it's pretty unlikely. The question was how many wins do we need to get in.

Why? All it takes is 7-5 in the weaker part of our BIG schedule. We had to have a point where we have a stretch of winning BB and 7-5 is not like saying we have to go 10-2. It is not an unreasonable expectation

 

[hdhntr1]

This is a good breakdown of the games. I assume the 3 favored are home Rutty, PSU, Minny. The tossups are probably @IL and home OSU. Slight dogs in the other home games. And then larger dogs in most of the remaining road games (though 1 is being counted as slight dogs).

In any event I agree it's low but I think it's higher than 2%. That is conditional upon us maintaining the same general level of play that we've had YTD. I've seen enough of CC coached teams thus far (or really any college BB team) that I can say that it's quite possible that we improve and maintain positive momentum for here, or that things worsen. The former seems slightly more likely than the latter based on the last two games, but either can happen. But regardless, 2% is based on a static model, which doesn't accurately depict college sports.

Just to throw a number out I'd say it's about 5-7% (1 in 15 to 20). Still quite low....

And against IN we had two of top three scorers have off days and still won. Law was way off against RUT as well yet we still won. Just saying they get back to their norm and we can be pretty competitive going forward. Margin of error is not great but sure better than 2%

 

[ricko6543211]

Why? All it takes is 7-5 in the weaker part of our BIG schedule. We had to have a point where we have a stretch of winning BB and 7-5 is not like saying we have to go 10-2. It is not an unreasonable expectation

I mean this is getting into semantics but I said pretty unlikely, you said not unreasonable. Both can be true... I don’t think we are quite through to the weaker part of our schedule yet, not for a couple more games. If we manage to get one out of @WI or @MD (or go 2-2 over next 4 when you include PSU and @IA) then I start to like our chances to go 6-4 and or 5-3 down the stretch and reach 10-10.

 

[Styre]

Current ranks:
RPI: 91
Kenpom: 56

NU wins (RPI/Kenpom)

Indiana: 52/38

Georgia Tech: 143/80
Illinois: 178/94
at Rutgers: 146/107
DePaul: 149/113
Utah (N): 129/136

New Orleans: 251/283
American: 267/197
Binghamton: 323/336
La Salle (N): 263/239
Chicago State: 334/346
Columbia: 324/238

NU losses (RPI/Kenpom)

Michigan: 7/6
at Michigan: 7/6
at Michigan State: 4/3
Oklahoma: 6/24

Iowa: 30/25
at Indiana: 52/38
Fresno State (N): 72/59

NU has a long way to go. Our only respectable win is at home over Indiana, and unless IU turns it around that win is going to look less and less impressive as the season goes on. Our only road win of any kind is at Rutgers. Fortunately, NU has no particularly bad losses, but as we've seen in the past "no bad losses" gets you precisely nothing when it comes to postseason bids.

Want to start making postseason noise? Go up to Madison on Saturday and win.

 

[Titanium999]

Current ranks:
RPI: 91
Kenpom: 56

NU wins (RPI/Kenpom)

Indiana: 52/38

Georgia Tech: 143/80
Illinois: 178/94
at Rutgers: 146/107
DePaul: 149/113
Utah (N): 129/136

New Orleans: 251/283
American: 267/197
Binghamton: 323/336
La Salle (N): 263/239
Chicago State: 334/346
Columbia: 324/238

NU losses (RPI/Kenpom)

Michigan: 7/6
at Michigan: 7/6
at Michigan State: 4/3
Oklahoma: 6/24

Iowa: 30/25
at Indiana: 52/38
Fresno State (N): 72/59

NU has a long way to go. Our only respectable win is at home over Indiana, and unless IU turns it around that win is going to look less and less impressive as the season goes on. Our only road win of any kind is at Rutgers. Fortunately, NU has no particularly bad losses, but as we've seen in the past "no bad losses" gets you precisely nothing when it comes to postseason bids.

Want to start making postseason noise? Go up to Madison on Saturday and win.

Just have fun!

 

[NJCat]

Current ranks:
RPI: 91
Kenpom: 56

NU wins (RPI/Kenpom)

Indiana: 52/38

Georgia Tech: 143/80
Illinois: 178/94
at Rutgers: 146/107
DePaul: 149/113
Utah (N): 129/136

New Orleans: 251/283
American: 267/197
Binghamton: 323/336
La Salle (N): 263/239
Chicago State: 334/346
Columbia: 324/238

NU losses (RPI/Kenpom)

Michigan: 7/6
at Michigan: 7/6
at Michigan State: 4/3
Oklahoma: 6/24

Iowa: 30/25
at Indiana: 52/38
Fresno State (N): 72/59

NU has a long way to go. Our only respectable win is at home over Indiana, and unless IU turns it around that win is going to look less and less impressive as the season goes on. Our only road win of any kind is at Rutgers. Fortunately, NU has no particularly bad losses, but as we've seen in the past "no bad losses" gets you precisely nothing when it comes to postseason bids.

Want to start making postseason noise? Go up to Madison on Saturday and win.

You might as well use the NCAA's NET ranking instead of RPI and Ken Pom, since that is what the selection committee will use to assist them.....

Here is a link for you. NU is #53 after the IU game. Wisconsin is 15.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

 

[hdhntr1]

Yeah so you are saying 11-9 rather than 10-10. I think given the strength of the B1G, particularly given that we don't have bad OOC losses, 10-10 would get it done, but who knows. In order to get there (to 10-10) almost by definition we'd need a couple strong quality wins. To do that is slightly more doable, because we can afford to drop one at home (running the table seems quite unlikely) and still only need 2 road wins (agree with you that getting 3 would be quite tough). Beating Michigan certainly would have helped, but it is what it is. We also very easily could have lost at home to Illinois.

We will have our chances

 

[ricko6543211]

You might as well use the NCAA's NET ranking instead of RPI and Ken Pom, since that is what the selection committee will use to assist them.....

Here is a link for you. NU is #53 after the IU game. Wisconsin is 15.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

The shift from RPI to NET is definitely going to help the Big Ten this year. That, along with the great performance of the conference in OOC play. It's a big part of the reason why the conference will almost certainly get 8 teams in this year, and possibly as much as 10 (though people have been talking about that... in practice I doubt it happens, I think as the season sorts itself out someone will falter - maybe even Indiana if they don't turn it around).

Btw I do agree with Styre's implicit point that the weak SOS in OOC will hold us back somewhat, though if we start getting wins in conference play in the end that won't matter.

 

[Styre]

You might as well use the NCAA's NET ranking instead of RPI and Ken Pom, since that is what the selection committee will use to assist them.....

Here is a link for you. NU is #53 after the IU game. Wisconsin is 15.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

Sure, let's break down the wins using the NET rankings and the quadrant system:

Q1A wins: none
Q1B wins: none
Q2A wins: Indiana
Q2B wins: at Rutgers
Q3 wins: Utah (N), Georgia Tech, DePaul, Illinois
Q4 wins: New Orleans, American, Binghamton, La Salle (N), Chicago State, Columbia

Remaining schedule:
Q1A: at Wisconsin, at Maryland, at Iowa, at Nebraska, Wisconsin, Purdue
Q1B: at Ohio State
Q2A: Ohio State
Q2B: Penn State, Minnesota, at Illinois
Q3: Rutgers
Q4: none

NU does not have a tournament resume right now. Fortunately, there are many opportunities coming up to get some Q1 wins, starting with the next two games.

 

[Catreporter]

RPI rankings look ridiculous to me. Georgia Tech won AT SYRACUSE, which then beat Duke at Duke. DePaul has two nice Big East road wins at St. Johns and Seton Hall. Why would they be that low? As stated, we need to beat some of the top Big Ten teams left on our schedule to have a chance at any postseason play.

 

[NJCat]

RPI rankings look ridiculous to me. Georgia Tech won AT SYRACUSE, which then beat Duke at Duke. DePaul has two nice Big East road wins at St. Johns and Seton Hall. Why would they be that low? As stated, we need to beat some of the top Big Ten teams left on our schedule to have a chance at any postseason play.

I guess that's why the NCAA ditched the RPI.....

 

[NUCat320]

Does NET Q1/2/3/4 apply “at time of game” or “at end of season”?

I’m assuming the latter...?

I recall @Rutgers was a Q3 win, but right on the threshold of Q2.

 

[NJCat]

Does NET Q1/2/3/4 apply “at time of game” or “at end of season”?

I’m assuming the latter...?

I recall @Rutgers was a Q3 win, but right on the threshold of Q2.

You are correct, end of the season.