We are saying the same thing mostly except if Oweh is that hurt that he can only shoot 3s at 1/6 and 4 of 13 from the field maybe he should be playing less minutes not letting him affect the game in a negative manner and then say well he was hurt so it’s ok.
Something is not adding up with the UK/ NIL rumors…
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No way I can see Pope putting Oweh out there if he is seriously hurt. Hell he sat Noah 2 games for a non serious ankle injury.
Oweh Mo and Aberdeen aren’t going to have a deer in the headlights look start to finish over playing a Louisville team. But they did, as an athlete when you know you can’t go at that speed, it looks just like that.
Oweh is grown, he’s a professional working his way to the NBA. He’s going to call his own shot, and apparently word around is it’s turf toe which can be really debilitating and linger but not worsen where you can’t play. It’s not like he’s out there with a broken back lol. But it will seriously affect your game.
No Pope's not the kind of guy who would play an injured player IMO. Why is so out of this world to you that NBA scouts got into his ear and that is why he is trying to hit so many 3's. Same thing happened to Oscar when he returned.
And what the hell about DA having a deer in headlights look? He was fantastic. And Mo is not injured?
it wasn't a money thing w wilson. it was a role thing, wilson wanted to be the GUY here and be a one and done, pope wanted him to be like mo and play a role
I dont think any of today's top players give a **** about playing for BBN or playing for a top historically great basketball program. This is antiquated thinking and its hubris. Theyre looking for money, a chance at an NBA/overseas basketball career, and a nice campus/college town/college amenities.
Does Kentucky differentiate enough from the other schools in this regards? Aside from Pope being a great coach, I dont think so.
Gotta find ways to draw in the elite recruits. Maybe its spending a little more on the elite recruits. Maybe its revamping facilities.
Does Kentucky differentiate enough from the other schools in this regards? Aside from Pope being a great coach, I dont think so.
Gotta find ways to draw in the elite recruits. Maybe its spending a little more on the elite recruits. Maybe its revamping facilities.
Nah go back. They had a clear deer in the headlights look from early into the game. Typical look of guys that think they can’t match the intensity. Happens all the time.
I don’t know what you’re talking about wouldn’t play an injured player. Mark will absolutely play guy who have injuries they can worth through. It’s turf toe, do you know what that is? Of course Oweh and Mark would want him out there. It’s not like he’s battling a broken ankle. But it’s very debilitating and can reduce your ability significantly.
Well DA seemed to get over the fear quickly to have a career best game. So the injury thing doesn't fly with him anyway. And I have heard zip about a Mo injury. Guy just didn't show up. He did the same in some Bama games last season.
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I thought I read JQ received 4. If your numbers are correct, then it could be 22 mil.
We probably need to adjust that in the future to bring in like 2 absolute studs but it’s a good strategy to keep the entire roster happy and playing as one.
It goes far beyond one game. I’m taking in account his whole time here. He’s got two games each year he has to win, vs UL and vs Calipari. Hes 1-2 and could very easily be 1-3 at years end. Add in that his teams lose way too many they have no business losing and people have a right to be pissed and question him.
I think we already know what it was. UK spent around $5 million combined for Oweh and Garrison. That cost us any real shot at Ament or Wilson.
The staff decided to spend another $2 million or so combined on the back four of the roster (Potter, Hawthorne, Noah, and Kam). Cut two of those guys out, and you've probably cleared another million.
Then we've got a $2 million dollar investment who is presently injured, and a $1.5 million dollar investment in Jasper Johnson who can't defend. That's $10.5 million combined on Garrison/Oweh/Johnson (can't defend)/JQ (injured)/Potter/Hawthorne/Kam/Noah.
If Oweh had gone pro, then you spend $4 million on Ament. If you lose Garrison and don't add JQ, you have more than enough for Wilson. We're feeling the weight of JQ's absence right now, so I'm not going to be critical on losing Wilson until I see what JQ gives us in the late-winter/spring.
They simply need to reallocate their funds and go more top-heavy in the future. I'm not sure having a team filled with 12 Allen Edwards and Heshimu Evans-level guys is conducive to winning a national title. In fact, I know it isn't. You need an Antoine Walker here or there. Side note on Kam: I'd actually like to see more Kam Williams and less Noah/Jasper. Neither one of those guys can defend.
So yeah. We have the money. Many, including you, thought the major markets would outbid us, and they haven't. We have as much or more money than anyone. We just might be spending it in the wrong places. So while we may not land a kid because of our tradition, it's our tradition that allows us to have the funds to afford a Wilson or an Ament. The only question is whether or not Pope thinks they're worth the money.
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We scored 88 points. Nate Ament can’t guard either. We just need better defense.
I have to chalk this whole thread up to confirmation bias. You start with the idea that you have to have *studs* to win the game. Then, we lose the game so it means it happened because we didn’t have *studs*. Yes, Brown Jr. scored 29 points, but our team scored 88 points. Louisville didn’t spread out and iso us all game. They destroyed us in DHO and PnR, because we couldn’t guard the same offensive scheme that we ourselves run in practice. “If we had Lamar Wilkerson, Donovan Dent, Nate Ament it would be different”. What game did you watch if you thought that? Looked to me like we couldn’t contain Brown, sure. We also couldn’t contain Conwell. We couldn’t contain McNeeley. We couldn’t contain anyone because we have no defensive identity. Brandon Ramsey’s video shows this pretty clearly. We decide to switch on screens then double over and help on bigs backing down our guards, for example. We need to know, as a coaching staff and team, what we want out of our scheme. Point blank, period.
Yeah agreed. I think returning players we don't need to offer TOO much for, because the act of moving requires more work. So for instance, I think you can keep a player for $500k, even if Wake forest is offering $600k. Or at least, you certainly don't need to throw money at the guys coming back to get them to stay: they wanted to be here anyways and they have familiarity.
The thing with Oweh, it's hard to tell whether he was gonna do this sort of regression. If we had the Oweh two nights ago, that we had last year, he takes that UofL game over and we win. So IDK if it's that hes not worth $4mil.. more so that we might have gotten burned by a guy who got a little complacent/NBA focused.
This is why I really wish we could start tying these NIL contracts to performance. I think the easiest thing to do for a school like Kentucky, is tie everyones NIL to tournament results. You get a great base, but if you want that last 20%, you gotta make an Elite 8. You want the full amount, then it has to be a Final4. I feel like that could be feasible.
Why are people complaining about what they were begging for? Y’all wanted this, keep using that corny play for the name on the front nonsense yall were using when trashing former players and acting like they didn’t care for UK. Yall wanted upperclassmen, in state players, and no more one and dones.
Who's "ya'll?" Is BBN a monolith now, independent of any diversity of thought?
The only thing this current UK roster is lacking is surefire lottery pick. Maybe JQ gives us that.
I personally want the best players possible. A nice blend of Darius Miller type upperclassmen and some elite freshmen. Kentucky kids are only good in as far as they are retained and develop - ala Willis, Ford, Hawkins, Padgett, etc.