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HymanKaplan_rivals48997

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That was a rather cryptic firing of Shildt. "More in sync with the front office vision" (to paraphrase)

I'm not really opposed to it, but 3 straight playoffs, and they won 90 games. Oh well.

Put me in the Stubby Clapp camp. I think he'd do a great job.
 
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Cardinals suck. Only wish I have is that they would’ve won against the dodgers so the braves could skull drag them.
 
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HymanKaplan said:
The Cardinals definitely do NOT suck. They're the gold standard of the NL. It's not really even debatable.
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I believe you have to take in to consideration the fan hate factor so...yes the Cardinals suck. Being a Reds fan it is expected to have that opinion. Objectively I could agree from a success angle but, they still suck.
 
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Molina didn't seem overly upset about it. He was diplomatic, but it wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

There is more to this story than we will probably ever know.


As I said earlier, I'm not losing any sleep over it. Something about Shildt irritated me. I just can't put my finger on it.
 
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The Cardinals are the UK basketball of the NL. Sustained excellence with multiple titles across several decades, whereas the Reds (and in particular the ‘76 Big Red Machine) are the early 90’s UNLV of the NL — largely irrelevant except for a brief, albeit awesome, period.
 
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It took them a 17 game win streak combined with a monumental collapse by the Reds for them to garner a wildcard spot. I guess they looked at the season as a whole. While the Reds rewarded the Monumental collapse with two more years for Bell.
 
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trueblujr2 said:
It took them a 17 game win streak combined with a monumental collapse by the Reds for them to garner a wildcard spot. I guess they looked at the season as a whole. While the Reds rewarded the Monumental collapse with two more years for Bell.
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Monumental collapse haha. The Reds played like they always do that time of year.

Also, collapse is when you lose a big lead late. Reds never had a big lead in the wild card race.
 
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HymanKaplan said:
Molina didn't seem overly upset about it. He was diplomatic, but it wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
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I read it different. Mentioned we almost always went to the playoffs with him, communication was good, clubhouse was good...he isn't going to come out and absolutely slam management. I thought it was supportive and more of a statement of surprise.
 
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trueblujr2 said:
It took them a 17 game win streak combined with a monumental collapse by the Reds for them to garner a wildcard spot. I guess they looked at the season as a whole. While the Reds rewarded the Monumental collapse with two more years for Bell.
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Yeah...but guess what, the Cardinals DID IT! And the Reds? Collapsed...again.
 
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Red's fans...I know you folks try but seriously...
 
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MdWIldcat55 said:
LOL. The UNLV? Did UNLV have the first recognized team to exist in its sport, like the 1869 Reds? Has UNLV won championships eight decades apart, like the Reds (1919-1990)? Is UNLV the last team in its league to win back-to-back championships, as the Reds are in 1975 and 1976? Did UNLV field the consensus Greatest Team of All Time in its league (the National League. Not up for debating the 1920s or 1930s Yankees, but the Reds had the greatest NL team of all time.)

St. Louis has won more championships, scattered through the years. But Cincinnati's place in baseball history -- as the oldest professional team, the greatest National league team and so on, is very secure.
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Reds are more like say Tennessee in football, for some reason think they are Alabama based on one small run 40 yrs ago, but really are more like South Carolina.
 
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MdWIldcat55 said:
LOL. The UNLV? Did UNLV have the first recognized team to exist in its sport, like the 1869 Reds? Has UNLV won championships eight decades apart, like the Reds (1919-1990)? Is UNLV the last team in its league to win back-to-back championships, as the Reds are in 1975 and 1976? Did UNLV field the consensus Greatest Team of All Time in its league (the National League. Not up for debating the 1920s or 1930s Yankees, but the Reds had the greatest NL team of all time.)

St. Louis has won more championships, scattered through the years. But Cincinnati's place in baseball history -- as the oldest professional team, the greatest National league team and so on, is very secure.
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I was just diggin' at Reds fans a little -- besides, I said the '75/'76 period was awesome.
 
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The very first baseball game I took my son to, was Reds/Cardinals at Riverfront, circa 1995

Schotzie was wandering around the infield, pre-game, and took a huge dump by second base.

My son thought that that was funniest thing ever. It made his night. LOL
 
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Cardinals fans are an interesting science experiment. What happens when you take a nothing city from one of the most useless states in the union and give them one of the most successful pro-sports teams in the country?

Somehow you arrive at a Cardinals fans. Most Cardinals fans pride themselves on being the good natured and classy yin, to the obnoxious and in your face yang of the the New York Yankees. "The Best Fans in Baseball" as they like to refer to themselves.

Yet when Jason Heyward leaves, they revert back to the racist yokels they truly are:
 
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