Statistical Comparison

[psybj]

LSU OKLAHOMA
Points per game 47.8 43.2
Opponents points per game 22.2 24.5
Rushing attempts 449 527
Passing attempts 476 385
Run-to-pass ratio (plays) 49/51 61/39
Rushing yards per game 167.5 251.2
Opponents rushing yards per game 119.6 132.1
Passing yards per game 386.8 303.0
Opponents passing yards per game 221.7 198.5
Pass efficiency rating 196 195.8
Total offense per game 554.3 554.2
Opponents yards per game 341.3 330.6
Run-to-pass ratio (yards) 30/70 45/55
Penalty yards per game 59.2 75.1
3rd down conversions 80/158 (50.6%) 72/142 (50.7%)
Red-zone scores 63/65 (96.9%) 63/69 (91.3%)
Red-zone touchdowns 50/65 (76.9%) 48/69 (69.6%)
Sacks per game 2.5 2.7
Sacks allowed per game 2.2 1.6
Turnover margin +8 -7
Yards per punt 42.7 42.2
Yards per punt return 12.3 7.2
Yards per kick return 12.3 7.2
Field goals 21/25 (84%) 19/21 (90.9%)


Amazing how close teams are. Only huge difference is TurnOvers.

 

[Thiswasthelastnameavailable]

LSU OKLAHOMA
Points per game 47.8 43.2
Opponents points per game 22.2 24.5
Rushing attempts 449 527
Passing attempts 476 385
Run-to-pass ratio (plays) 49/51 61/39
Rushing yards per game 167.5 251.2
Opponents rushing yards per game 119.6 132.1
Passing yards per game 386.8 303.0
Opponents passing yards per game 221.7 198.5
Pass efficiency rating 196 195.8
Total offense per game 554.3 554.2
Opponents yards per game 341.3 330.6
Run-to-pass ratio (yards) 30/70 45/55
Penalty yards per game 59.2 75.1
3rd down conversions 80/158 (50.6%) 72/142 (50.7%)
Red-zone scores 63/65 (96.9%) 63/69 (91.3%)
Red-zone touchdowns 50/65 (76.9%) 48/69 (69.6%)
Sacks per game 2.5 2.7
Sacks allowed per game 2.2 1.6
Turnover margin +8 -7
Yards per punt 42.7 42.2
Yards per punt return 12.3 7.2
Yards per kick return 12.3 7.2
Field goals 21/25 (84%) 19/21 (90.9%)


Amazing how close teams are. Only huge difference is TurnOvers.

Good work on the stats, and I am being serious. Any chance you have the same kind of info available for the defensive side of the ball? I know the internet is out there but I am lazy and just got done with about 20 hours of driving

 

[Scottsdale.Sooner]

There is one major reality check point between LSU and OU. LSU runs an offense that is new to the SEC. Everyone in the SEC and ESPN is overwhelmed by this "new" attack and can't stop blowing smoke up the general publics *** about how LSU is head and shoulders above OU. LSU D has not seen an offense as potent as OU. Granted OU likely has not seen a D like LSU in the Big XII. OU sees this O everyday in practice and in most games. I personally think OU has a much better chance than the pundits are predicting.

 

[psybj]

There is one major reality check point between LSU and OU. LSU runs an offense that is new to the SEC. Everyone in the SEC and ESPN is overwhelmed by this "new" attack and can't stop blowing smoke up the general publics *** about how LSU is head and shoulders above OU. LSU D has not seen an offense as potent as OU. Granted OU likely has not seen a D like LSU in the Big XII. OU sees this O everyday in practice and in most games. I personally think OU has a much better chance than the pundits are predicting.

Big XII has productive Os but note the record of B12 vs SEC.

Big 12 teams fare poorly in The Playoffs.

National Champ game Wins: SEC-11, B12-2

Yup, you got a chance, Guido sez 18% chance OU wins, not far from the 11-2 record the conferences have won NCs.

 

[Soonerborn1959]

There is one major reality check point between LSU and OU. LSU runs an offense that is new to the SEC. Everyone in the SEC and ESPN is overwhelmed by this "new" attack and can't stop blowing smoke up the general publics *** about how LSU is head and shoulders above OU. LSU D has not seen an offense as potent as OU. Granted OU likely has not seen a D like LSU in the Big XII. OU sees this O everyday in practice and in most games. I personally think OU has a much better chance than the pundits are predicting.

There is a lot of disrespect going around by ESPN as they continue to kiss the SEC ***. LSU fans are already saying that Coach O should just sit out the RB to get him completely healthy for the NC game. If our Sooners win you are going to see a fanbase making one excuse after another while eating that feathered crow. ESPN will be devastated and feed the public with its own excuses as to why LSU lost.

The real difference between our fanbase and LSU is we know this game is an uphill battle for our Sooners and I think we all respect LSU ( not so much the fans of LSU who displays plenty of lack of class overall ) while the LSU people are thinking this is going to be a cakewalk.

 

[psybj]

The real difference between our fanbase and LSU is we know this game is an uphill battle for our Sooners and I think we all respect LSU ( not so much the fans of LSU who displays plenty of lack of class overall ) while the LSU people are thinking this is going to be a cakewalk.

When a team us 2 TD favorite the fanatics believe it is over; that goes for fans of any team. Those of us who try to be realistic use the best numbers available. Pay no attention to what ESPN says, they don't take bets, they sell ads, that is what their babble is about. Burrow is the popular golden boy and he sells ads.

The bookies take bets. I trust the bookies to have the best available estimate as to who will win. Some think they are wrong and bet with them, and they keep building casinos.

If you want to bet on OU, a bookie will put up $4 to your $1, and you can bet your house. Their numbers say 82% chance LSU wins which means 18% OU wins. IMO 82% is too high but my opinion isn't very good, I know people who book and live very well so I won't challenge them.

<<<...about how LSU is head and shoulders above OU. LSU D has not seen an offense as potent as OU.>>>

Don't listen to ESPN. Many peeps I know turn the sound off watching games on TV. Listen to the guys who build casinos by being accurate. They say the game ain't over, OU has an 18% chance.

 

[bullmarket]

When a team us 2 TD favorite the fanatics believe it is over; that goes for fans of any team. Those of us who try to be realistic use the best numbers available. Pay no attention to what ESPN says, they don't take bets, they sell ads, that is what their babble is about. Burrow is the popular golden boy and he sells ads.

The bookies take bets. I trust the bookies to have the best available estimate as to who will win. Some think they are wrong and bet with them, and they keep building casinos.

If you want to bet on OU, a bookie will put up $4 to your $1, and you can bet your house. Their numbers say 82% chance LSU wins which means 18% OU wins. IMO 82% is too high but my opinion isn't very good, I know people who book and live very well so I won't challenge them.

<<<...about how LSU is head and shoulders above OU. LSU D has not seen an offense as potent as OU.>>>

Don't listen to ESPN. Many peeps I know turn the sound off watching games on TV. Listen to the guys who build casinos by being accurate. They say the game ain't over, OU has an 18% chance.

yawn

 

[bullmarket]

When a team us 2 TD favorite the fanatics believe it is over; that goes for fans of any team. Those of us who try to be realistic use the best numbers available. Pay no attention to what ESPN says, they don't take bets, they sell ads, that is what their babble is about. Burrow is the popular golden boy and he sells ads.

The bookies take bets. I trust the bookies to have the best available estimate as to who will win. Some think they are wrong and bet with them, and they keep building casinos.

If you want to bet on OU, a bookie will put up $4 to your $1, and you can bet your house. Their numbers say 82% chance LSU wins which means 18% OU wins. IMO 82% is too high but my opinion isn't very good, I know people who book and live very well so I won't challenge them.

<<<...about how LSU is head and shoulders above OU. LSU D has not seen an offense as potent as OU.>>>

Don't listen to ESPN. Many peeps I know turn the sound off watching games on TV. Listen to the guys who build casinos by being accurate. They say the game ain't over, OU has an 18% chance.

How many times has LSU been in the present final four foremat?

ANSWER ZERO! (LSU NEVER EVEN CLOSE TO A FINAL FOUR APPEARANCE)!


OU's QB has been in FOUR WITH A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP & This will be Lincoln Riley's 4th.

LSU will choke under the pressure.

OU ain't no Ole Miss! From top to bottom the Big 12 was much stronger than the SEC and OU played EVERY team in the Big 12 Conference including 12-2 Baylor twice. (Their two losses were to OU.)
Nine SEC teams VERY WEAK...Tenn, S Carolina, Ky, Missouri, Vandy, Ark, Texas A&M, Miss St. and Ole Miss,

LSU Overrated and SEC Overrated.

 

[psybj]

College Football Playoff Rankings

RK
TEAM
REC
TREND
1
LSU
13-0
1
2
Ohio State
13-0
1
3
Clemson
13-0
-
4
Oklahoma
12-1
2
5
Georgia
11-2
1
6
Oregon
11-2
7
7
Baylor
11-2
-
8
Wisconsin
10-3
-
9
Florida
10-2
-
10
Penn State
10-2
-
11
Utah
11-2
6
12
Auburn
9-3
1
13
Alabama
10-2
1
14

How many times has LSU been in the present final four foremat?

ANSWER ZERO! (LSU NEVER EVEN CLOSE TO A FINAL FOUR APPEARANCE)!

OU's QB has been in FOUR WITH A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP & This will be Lincoln Riley's 4th.

LSU will choke under the pressure.

OU ain't no Ole Miss! From top to bottom the Big 12 was much stronger than the SEC and OU played EVERY team in the Big 12 Conference including 12-2 Baylor twice. (Their two losses were to OU.)
Nine SEC teams VERY WEAK...Tenn, S Carolina, Ky, Missouri, Vandy, Ark, Texas A&M, Miss St. and Ole Miss,

LSU Overrated and SEC Overrated.

LSU has played and defeated FIVE teams that were rated in the Top Ten at the time. THAT IS PRESSURE. LSU didn't choke. This specific group of kids has experienced pressure.

LSU understands the opposition, knows it ain't gonna be easy. DC Aranda said the OU Offense "you can't sleep" after watching.

If LSU is so overrated you can go to your local bookie, or bet on-line, and get 400 for every 100 you put up on OU to win.

 

[owenfieldreams]

I dont think LSU is overrated. I think OU is under rated. I will be surprised if this game isn't close.

 

[psybj]

I dont think LSU is overrated. I think OU is under rated. I will be surprised if this game isn't close.

Expect a toe to toe heavyweight battle w/ big booms on both sides.

 

[kcstorm06_rivals]

Expect a toe to toe heavyweight battle w/ big booms on both sides.

It’s a battleship vs a destroyer. Which team is which remains to be seen on Saturday.

 

[iasooner1]

I would call it a battleship vs an aircraft carrier if I were speaking in military terms. OU must control the sky (and ground)

 

[Soonerborn1959]

When a team us 2 TD favorite the fanatics believe it is over; that goes for fans of any team. Those of us who try to be realistic use the best numbers available. Pay no attention to what ESPN says, they don't take bets, they sell ads, that is what their babble is about. Burrow is the popular golden boy and he sells ads.

The bookies take bets. I trust the bookies to have the best available estimate as to who will win. Some think they are wrong and bet with them, and they keep building casinos.

If you want to bet on OU, a bookie will put up $4 to your $1, and you can bet your house. Their numbers say 82% chance LSU wins which means 18% OU wins. IMO 82% is too high but my opinion isn't very good, I know people who book and live very well so I won't challenge them.

<<<...about how LSU is head and shoulders above OU. LSU D has not seen an offense as potent as OU.>>>

Don't listen to ESPN. Many peeps I know turn the sound off watching games on TV. Listen to the guys who build casinos by being accurate. They say the game ain't over, OU has an 18% chance.

Sorry but I don’t give a damn about odds or odds makers. However I don’t need a lesson from you about odds as I am a numbers guy.

 

[psybj]

Sorry but I don’t give a damn about odds or odds makers. However I don’t need a lesson from you about odds as I am a numbers guy.

Bering a numbers guy is useless if you don't pay attention to the numbers. If you were better than those guys at sports numbers you could be absurdly wealthy.

And I'm not giving lessons. My first lecture to a college statistics class was over 50 years ago but haven't lectured re statistics for decades now. Was simply stating what the numbers are saying. You have an 18% chance of being right.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

I’m just happy y’all are giving 18%.
That means we have a chance.

 

[psybj]

I’m just happy y’all are giving 18%.
That means we have a chance.

LSU is not giving 18%, that number is from the bookies. They may be wrong but they keep on building casinos.

 

[Thiswasthelastnameavailable]

Bering a numbers guy is useless if you don't pay attention to the numbers. If you were better than those guys at sports numbers you could be absurdly wealthy.

And I'm not giving lessons. My first lecture to a college statistics class was over 50 years ago but haven't lectured re statistics for decades now. Was simply stating what the numbers are saying. You have an 18% chance of being right.

LSU is not giving 18%, that number is from the bookies. They may be wrong but they keep on building casinos.

I guess I don't understand what you are saying but I have never given any lessons on stats such as yourself: your position is since the bookies/Vegas (who have a financial investment) have OU at an 18% chance of winning that is factual? So this statistical "model" of OU having having an 18% chance of winning is not based on simulations but is based geon whatts the most action while downplaying possible monetary losses for bookies/Vegas? They keep building casinos...you keep shoveling the same ****.

 

[CTOkie]

Stats and numbers aside, I see LSU as the best team OU has faced this season and OU’s chances rest on playing as close to a perfect game as possible.
And much of that has to do with composure and focus unlike any effort we have seen from this OU team this season,

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

But 18%.... so there’s a chance.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

A few stats that you’ve omitted.

1. LSU is #111th at stopping a running QB
2. LSU gave up 37 points to Ole Miss
3. LSU gave up 35 points to Vandy

If this game is to won by OU it will be on the play of Jalen Hurts. If he plays a solid game, no turnovers, & runs for 100 yards... OU wins.

The odds makers are betting he doesn’t.

 

[owenfieldreams]

If you analyze OU's games this year, we have dominated every opponent but have allowed said opponent to remain competitive in the 4th qtr. for one reason...Turn Overs. We must play a clean game. If we do we have a great chance at winning.

 

[psybj]

I guess I don't understand what you are saying but I have never given any lessons on stats such as yourself: your position is since the bookies/Vegas (who have a financial investment) have OU at an 18% chance of winning that is factual? So this statistical "model" of OU having having an 18% chance of winning is not based on simulations but is based geon whatts the most action while downplaying possible monetary losses for bookies/Vegas? They keep building casinos...you keep shoveling the same ****.

The bookies are either right or they lose money and can't build more casinos. They keep building casinos.

This estimate is based on the money line, -500, +400.
If p > 20% taking the +400 is profitable.
If p < 16.7%, -500 is profitable.

To evaluate an opinion, look at track record and what is a stake in making the estimate.

ESPN says LSU has a 67% chance of winning. They have nothing at stake, they are in the business of selling ads. It profits them to keep the number low to attract viewers, get ratings and sell ads.

Bookies say LSU has 82% chance of winning. They have their livelihood at stake; they keep building casinos and inviting more action.

 

[psybj]

A few stats that you’ve omitted.

1. LSU is #111th at stopping a running QB
2. LSU gave up 37 points to Ole Miss
3. LSU gave up 35 points to Vandy

If this game is to won by OU it will be on the play of Jalen Hurts. If he plays a solid game, no turnovers, & runs for 100 yards... OU wins.

The odds makers are betting he doesn’t.

The running QB stat was much due to one game, OM, when the game was out of reach and subs were playing on D while the injured rested. LSU who still won by 21.

VU scored 14 pts on the LSU O, fumble recovery in EZ and a Pic Six. OSU still won by ~30.

LSU DL was just on TV, said LSU would play to contain Hurts and force him to throw. Maybe he lies.

LSU CB was just on TV, said CBs would line up on their sides and wherever CeeDee lined up would determine who would cover him. That I believe to be true. But that doesn't tell us what the Safeties will do.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

I can’t remember the odds when OU faced FSU for the title game but it was pretty close to the numbers you speak if. Perhaps a few on the board can chime in. But we were told the same stuff. OU kicked that Seminole *** that night. That was 19 yrs ago. The gambling empire and casinos are still adding on and paying their light bills. Just saying.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

The running QB stat was much due to one game, OM, when the game was out of reach and subs were playing on D while the injured rested. LSU who still won by 21.

VU scored 14 pts on the LSU O, fumble recovery in EZ and a Pic Six. OSU still won by ~30.

LSU DL was just on TV, said LSU would play to contain Hurts and force him to throw. Maybe he lies.

LSU CB was just on TV, said CBs would line up on their sides and wherever CeeDee lined up would determine who would cover him. That I believe to be true. But that doesn't tell us what the Safeties will do.

I sure hope that all starters for LSU are playing this game. I’d hate to read that excuse if OU hits on that 18% odds.

 

[iasooner1]

Are we getting 6-1 yet ?

 

[Thiswasthelastnameavailable]

The bookies are either right or they lose money and can't build more casinos. They keep building casinos.

This estimate is based on the money line, -500, +400.
If p > 20% taking the +400 is profitable.
If p < 16.7%, -500 is profitable.

To evaluate an opinion, look at track record and what is a stake in making the estimate.

ESPN says LSU has a 67% chance of winning. They have nothing at stake, they are in the business of selling ads. It profits them to keep the number low to attract viewers, get ratings and sell ads.

Bookies say LSU has 82% chance of winning. They have their livelihood at stake; they keep building casinos and inviting more action.

My point is you are offering up OU's possibility of winning based in the lines, which are based on monies being won or lost. These said lines are open to movement based on bets by the general public. Whereas a true probability for a team to win is based on computer simulations and statistics. You proposition yourself as factual and proffer a circular argument. The fact is you're manipulating numbers and distorting them. You still haven't posted the defensive stats comparison, likely because it doesn't suit your argument. We get it, LSU is the heavy favorite and should win the game based on each teams' resume to this point. But don't come on the board and piss on our heads and tell us it is raining. We have a chance to win and it is much better than your bookies suggested 18%. Maybe it has been too long since you have a lecture about statistics, but please offer your services to someone who wants them.

 

[OUSOONER67]

He acts as if the money from the Bookies is the main reason they keep building Casinos.
You do know that people gamble in those Casinos? Black Jack, Poker, Slot Machines etc.

 

[Deweygolfer]

Betting odds, lines and predictions don't mean sh** to me, see the following example:

Moneyline (?)
As you would expect, the Sooners (-2000) are a heavy road favorite in this one as they continue to look unstoppable on offense. While it’s likely Oklahoma wins this game, Kansas State (+890) presents more value on the moneyline. AVOID this moneyline if possible as the odds just aren’t intriguing enough to risk any of your bankroll.

Against the Spread (?)
OKLAHOMA (-23.5, -110) is more than a three-touchdown favorite over its Big 12 opponent in Kansas State (+23.5, -110). But despite the big spread, it’s hard to see a scenario in which K-State can keep up with Jalen Hurts and the rest of the Oklahoma offense. Expect this to get out of hand quickly and for the Sooners to cover the 23.5-point spread, despite playing on the road.

 

[Deweygolfer]

The bookies are either right or they lose money and can't build more casinos. They keep building casinos.

A Casino has never been built based on the outcome of a singular game...…………..

 

[psybj]

A Casino has never been built based on the outcome of a singular game...…………..

Casinos are built, and bookies prosper, on consistent accuracy. They have the best estimate of the chances of winning.

 

[iasooner1]

Then you're in on 7-1 and 24 points ?

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Casinos are built, and bookies prosper, on consistent accuracy. They have the best estimate of the chances of winning.

it’s evident that they & you aren’t factoring in Sooner Magic. It’s real and only hope it shows up

 

[owenfieldreams]

At kickoff FSU was -11 vs OU in the Orange Bowl.

I can’t remember the odds when OU faced FSU for the title game by it was pretty close. Perhaps a few on the board can chime in. But we were told the same stuff. OU kicked that Seminole *** that night. That was 19 yrs ago. The gambling empire and casinos are still adding on and paying their light bills. Just saying.

 

[psybj]

it’s evident that they & you aren’t factoring in Sooner Magic. It’s real and only hope it shows up

I sat thru the 0-35 OU beating LSU in the Sugar Bowl. No fear of magic, concern re an excellent program over decades.