Three takeaways from Penn State basketball's loss to Miami
Penn State Nittany Lions basketball suffered a close defeat to the Miami Hurricanes on Wednesday night at the Bryce Jordan Center.
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If Penn State had not fired Pat Chambers (and, in 2020, if not for COVID, of course) would Penn State Basketball right now be in legitimate contention for a third straight trip to the NCAAs? We'll never know for sure, of course, but a backcourt of Jones, Brockington, and Wheller, along with Harrar at the post and Lundy and Dread available at wings, might form the nucleus of a tourney caliber team, I would think.
We’ve given Shrewsberry seven games. I think that’s enough. Time to move on.
Shrewsberry's offense places a premium on players' decision-making, and clearly the squad is not comfortable with this offensive scheme yet. That takes some time, and I'm betting it comes together sometime in January. It will also help a lot when Jevonnie Scott and Greg Lee are ready to play in the frontcourt.
Yes, it's an "old" squad with experienced players, but a lot of new faces that are learning to play together.
Yes, it's an "old" squad with experienced players, but a lot of new faces that are learning to play together.
Lee out of the boot and getting closer…Scott is back practicing and I’d expect to see him in the Wagner game next week.
Based on his history, Pat would have found a way to underachieve with that group. I'm not sure what folks saw from Pat that would indicate he would have done otherwise.
Probably. Shrewsberry gets at least 4 years just like any coach should. At the 4 year mark, all the players are players he recruited. He tried to keep guys that left, but they obviously did not like that the University got rid of Chambers.
Shrewsberry's first recruiting class for 2022 (6th in Big Ten), is one 4-star player and four 3-star players, one is 6-8 and another 6-10. So he is off to a good start, just none of them can help until next year. We will see how it goes.
Turnovers and poor 3 pt shooting are the main culprits. Both can partially be traced back to continuity and knowing where each other will be on the floor. Lundy needs to figure out what he is doing soon, turnovers have cleaned up some but bad shooting from deep (4-26 last 3 games) and not getting to the line is killing them.
To be clear, my comment wasn't a critique of Shrewsberry. Just a "what if" thought with regard to what might have reasonably taken place if Penn State hadn't reboot the whole thing by firing Chambers - including the mass exodus of most of the contributors on the roster..
Our team under the prior coach played very poor defense imo; it is already better, much better, under this coach.
I also like his calm demeanor, which imo translates into calmer play from our players.
I like both things.
As I said, I wouldn't even begin to critique, or care to critique, "coaching abilities" of either - and certainly not of one vs the other. So I really don't have anything to contribute on that topic.
Adjusted Defensive Efficiency since Ed's last year...
Year - Coach - Pomeroy National Rank - Torvik National Rank
2022 - Shrewsberry - 80th - 86th
2021 - Ferry - 52nd - 62nd
2020 - Chambers - 23rd - 15th
2019 - Chambers - 27th - 20th
2018 - Chambers - 19th - 10th
2017 - Chambers - 51st - 56th
2016 - Chambers - 98th - 102nd
2015 - Chambers - 58th - 42nd
2014 - Chambers - 103rd - 99th
2013 - Chambers - 148th - 116th
2012 - Chambers - 107th - 92nd
2011 - DeChellis - 76th - 67th
Based on the numbers, we're definitely not playing "better, much better" defense under Micah than we had in the last several years. We are definitely a lot less aggressive on D...the aggression definitely led to some easy baskets for our opponents in past years, however we're currently 355th out of 358 teams in the country in forcing turnovers. We are also playing at a lot slower pace, which will keep scores down, but isn't something that I'd consider when evaluating the quality of the defense.
I agree on the coaches demeanor but defensively we are nowhere close. Brockington and Wheeler were far superior Defenders than anybody on the current team.
I think this team will improve once PSU is able to work other 2 transfer "bigs" into the rotation.