Stunners. Two unranked teams beat top fives. Arky 19 UTenn 14. Vandy 40, Bama 35

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with 5:07 left in regulation. Vandy's QB was not recruited by anybody out of h.s. But he runs their tricky offense well.

Vanderbilt has NEVER beaten a top 5 ranked team. EVER. I'd love it.
 

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Vandy just needs to hold on to the ball to earn a great upset. Wow!! What a big win.
 

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Vandy QB Diego Pavia will be national player of the week.
 

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Arkansaa is moving the ball at will vs Tenn but can’t convert the 4th and 2. Lead 3-0 late 2nd. If only OU had an offense vs Tenn. Hogs D playing lights out
 
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I take back that "Alabama is on another level" comment.
 

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Arkansas is down to UTenn 14-13 with two minutes left, and playing their number two quarterback. But they suddenly got the ball to the Vols' 20, 1st and ten. Great chance for yet another upset. I'm glad we didn't play today.
 

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UTenn just let them score. Vols going for two. Failed. 19-14 Pigs. 1:17 left.
 

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We have tv's plaino
Every time I post something like that, somebody says what you said. Then later, I often get a couple of thank yous from someone who didn't have access to a tv at work or whereever. Every other board I'm on, discusses these things. So if you don't want to discuss it, you don't really have to. Today, was the first time in SEC history, that two top five teams in the SEC lost to unranked teams of any kind.

And Vanderbilt had never won a game against a top five team in their history. Especially on a day when the Sooners were OPEN DATE guys, I thought someone would be interested, even if you weren't. No problem. But your displeasure about it, won't stop me from doing the same thing in the future. Sorry
 

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I am not an Arkansas fan by any means but this Razorback team is really good. How good is the question. They are as close as anyone to be 6-0 at this point. No one is going to blow this team out and I would have to say ( hate admitting this to my wife, son in law and all those other Hog fans ) I would rank them ahead of our Sooners in the SEC. This isn't based on the Tennessee win alone but if you have watched them you will realize this is not the same team as the last 4-6 years. If anything against the Vols they showed that a good offense can move the ball against them. Something OU just didn't have for that game.

Is Texas the cream of the top? Is there even a top team in the SEC this season after seeing Vanderbilt beat Bama? If OU beats Texas and I sure hope they do then it becomes a crap shoot who will win the SEC. With saying that, at this point if I was to rank the SEC teams it would be like below and leave my personal bias for OU out the door.

1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
4. Ole Miss
5. Tennessee
6. Texas A&M
7. Arkansas
8, LSU
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina
11. Vanderbilt
12. Kentucky
13. Auburn
14. Miss State
 
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Yeah people do that in Facebook groups as well lol. I’m like “do they realize we are watching the exact same thing?” Lol. It’s silly IMO
 

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For the record, teams 4 through 15 I think could be placed in any order and it would be hard to argue them. Miss State is clearly at the bottom.
 

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Every time I post something like that, somebody says what you said. Then later, I often get a couple of thank yous from someone who didn't have access to a tv at work or whereever. Every other board I'm on, discusses these things. So if you don't want to discuss it, you don't really have to. Today, was the first time in SEC history, that two top five teams in the SEC lost to unranked teams of any kind.

And Vanderbilt had never won a game against a top five team in their history. Especially on a day when the Sooners were OPEN DATE guys, I thought someone would be interested, even if you weren't. No problem. But your displeasure about it, won't stop me from doing the same thing in the future. Sorry

Thank you @Plainosooner. Keep posting as you have for decades.

We were told ad nauseam that both OU and Texas "don't know what they have coming in the SEC". I guess Bama, UGA, the real UT, Mizzou, Ole Miss didn't know what they had coming either.
 
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I am not an Arkansas fan by any means but this Razorback team is really good. How good is the question. They are as close as anyone to be 6-0 at this point. No one is going to blow this team out and I would have to say ( hate admitting this to my wife, son in law and all those other Hog fans ) I would rank them ahead of our Sooners in the SEC. This isn't based on the Tennessee win alone but if you have watched them you will realize this is not the same team as the last 4-6 years. If anything against the Vols they showed that a good offense can move the ball against them. Something OU just didn't have for that game.

Is Texas the cream of the top? Is there even a top team in the SEC this season after seeing Vanderbilt beat Bama? If OU beats Texas and I sure hope they do then it becomes a crap shoot who will win the SEC. With saying that, at this point if I was to rank the SEC teams it would be like below and leave my personal bias for OU out the door.

1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
4. Ole Miss
5. Tennessee
6. Texas A&M
7. Arkansas
8, LSU
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina
11. Vanderbilt
12. Kentucky
13. Auburn
14. Miss State
You left out Misery and the Gaytors.

I couldn't put Arkansas ahead of OU since the piggies have 2 losses.
Yeah they beat Tenn but I said it after OU played them that Tenn is not a top 5 team. The media and their fans have been pushing that since the cupcake blowouts and if we had an offense or even a change at QB before it was too late I think we would have beaten them. The SEC looks wide open like a case knife right now. Bama looked like the best team in CF in the 1st half vs Georgia and almost lost that game in the second half, then Bama loses to Vandy. Georgia didn't beat Auburn by a whole lot more than we did and has a better O and supposedly D than we do.

All that said its still pretty early in the season and a lot of teams are still figuring it all out. The schedule doesn't look as daunting as it did early on but its the same every year, SEC teams are pumped up by the media after a few cupcake blowouts and things start to sort itself out during Conference play.
The one thing that stands out is Bamas collapse at Vandy. Deboer won't last long losing those types of games. I do love it tho. 😁

aTm might be the sleeper team right now, the one to watch going forward.
Not sure what to expect for the RRS but hope we can put it all together and get the W. Depends on who is healthy and returns but I doubt that will be a factor. OU's best bet is forcing turnovers and maybe a score or 2 by the D. Texas will likely be No 1 again unless tOSU jumps them. Would be nice to thump texass out of that spot this coming Sat.

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I think Georgia is still the best team this year in the SEC but they did piss their pants in the 1st half vs Bama but came back and that was impressive, not many if any at all could come back from that and have the lead late in the game. Not as good as the past 3 seasons tho and Deboer will run Bama into the ground most likely and earlier than most thought. I mean how do you replace a GOAT HC and keep on clicking? I doubt he lasts more than 3 seasons but we will see.

1. Texas
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. Ole Miss
5. Tennessee
6. Texas A&M
7. Oklahoma
8, LSU
9. Missouri
10. Arkansas
11. Kentucky
12. Vanderbilt
13. Auburn
14. South Carolina
15. Florida
16. Miss St

Crazy stuff so far this season and it will continue is my guess. Teams will falter and fall by the wayside and others will emerge with not much thought given to them early on. Hope OU is one of those.

BEAT TEXASS! SAW EM OFF!
 
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You left out Misery and the Gaytors.

I couldn't put Arkansas ahead of OU since the piggies have 2 losses.
Yeah they beat Tenn but I said it after OU played them that Tenn is not a top 5 team. The media and their fans have been pushing that since the cupcake blowouts and if we had an offense or even a change at QB before it was too late I think we would have beaten them. The SEC looks wide open like a case knife right now. Bama looked like the best team in CF in the 1st half vs Georgia and almost lost that game in the second half, then Bama loses to Vandy. Georgia didn't beat Auburn by a whole lot more than we did and has a better O and supposedly D than we do.

All that said its still pretty early in the season and a lot of teams are still figuring it all out. The schedule doesn't look as daunting as it did early on but its the same every year, SEC teams are pumped up by the media after a few cupcake blowouts and things start to sort itself out during Conference play.
The one thing that stands out is Bamas collapse at Vandy. Deboer won't last long losing those types of games. I do love it tho. 😁

aTm might be the sleeper team right now, the one to watch going forward.
Not sure what to expect for the RRS but hope we can put it all together and get the W. Depends on who is healthy and returns but I doubt that will be a factor. OU's best bet is forcing turnovers and maybe a score or 2 by the D. Texas will likely be No 1 again unless tOSU jumps them. Would be nice to thump texass out of that spot this coming Sat.

My list
I think Georgia is still the best team this year in the SEC but they did piss their pants in the 1st half vs Bama but came back and that was impressive, not many if any at all could come back from that and have the lead late in the game. Not as good as the past 3 seasons tho and Deboer will run Bama into the ground most likely and earlier than most thought. I mean how do you replace a GOAT HC and keep on clicking? I doubt he lasts more than 3 seasons but we will see.

1. Texas
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. Ole Miss
5. Tennessee
6. Texas A&M
7. Oklahoma
8, LSU
9. Missouri
10. Arkansas
11. Kentucky
12. Vanderbilt
13. Auburn
14. South Carolina
15. Florida
16. Miss St

Crazy stuff so far this season and it will continue is my guess. Teams will falter and fall by the wayside and others will emerge with not much thought given to them early on. Hope OU is one of those.

BEAT TEXASS! SAW EM OFF!
Damn I did leave them out. Thanks for pointing that out. The only thing it would have changed for me would be Mizzou ahead of SC and UF ahead of Auburn.

Texas
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
4. Ole Miss
5. Tennessee
6. Texas A&M
7. Arkansas
8, LSU
9. Oklahoma
10. Mizzou
11. South Carolina
12. Vanderbilt
13. Kentucky
14. Florida
15. Auburn
16. Miss State
 

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It was a fun Saturday with all the upsets. Miami got yet another assist from the refs ( if you watched the game you know what I am referring at - the targeting call that should have been called on them ) that gave Miami one last chance to score again.

USC losing to Minnesota made my day. I asked my USC friend out in LA if he thought LR would last the season and he isn’t a fan of the duecebag. I think USC loses a couple more games.

Looking forward to RRR game and I think OU has a good shot to pull it off.
 

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This will be life in the SEC as OU and Texas come in….making the toughest conference even stronger.
Every week, any team in the SEC can get ambushed.
I believe this scenario is a byproduct of the SEC being the tough conference on CFB.
 
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This will be life in the SEC as OU and Texas come in….making the toughest conference even stronger.
Every week, any team in the SEC can get ambushed.
I believe this scenario is a byproduct of the SEC being the tough conference on CFB.
Agree. I will add that each and every week the match-ups seem to be more entertaining. Eventually we will see the BIG and SEC create its own league within the NCAA. Its basically already here.
 
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And theres aggie atop the SEC standings., won't last tho. Not pictured is Miss St at 0-2 and Auburn deadlast at 0-3


 
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Don't remember who said it before the Season began but looks like they might be right in that there won't be an undefeated SEC team this yr. Only texass remains and we gonna take care of that Sat. 🤠
 

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I am not an Arkansas fan by any means but this Razorback team is really good. How good is the question. They are as close as anyone to be 6-0 at this point. No one is going to blow this team out and I would have to say ( hate admitting this to my wife, son in law and all those other Hog fans ) I would rank them ahead of our Sooners in the SEC. This isn't based on the Tennessee win alone but if you have watched them you will realize this is not the same team as the last 4-6 years. If anything against the Vols they showed that a good offense can move the ball against them. Something OU just didn't have for that game.

Is Texas the cream of the top? Is there even a top team in the SEC this season after seeing Vanderbilt beat Bama? If OU beats Texas and I sure hope they do then it becomes a crap shoot who will win the SEC. With saying that, at this point if I was to rank the SEC teams it would be like below and leave my personal bias for OU out the door.

1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
4. Ole Miss
5. Tennessee
6. Texas A&M
7. Arkansas
8, LSU
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina
11. Vanderbilt
12. Kentucky
13. Auburn
14. Miss State
I agree and not. Arkansas is a very talented team. But a not great Poke team from up the road beat them, and not sure they've beaten anyone since. Arkansas has done a lot of things to lose games, because they're not a great team, even though they are very talented.

I think last night was more about UTenn than Arky. It's ironic that UTenn beat us pretty handily in Norman, and the national media crowned them as great, when we were missing several OLineman including being down to OUr 4th center. And OUr receiver corps was depleated just as much. And OUr defense got worn down. Then last night, the Vols were hurting in those identical spots, and managed 14 points. The Vols looked great when we couldn't come close to fielding a healthy offense A lot was said about their beating NC State like a drum on the road. We've since found out that the Wolfpack sucks.

Tennessee is pretty darn good. But the fact is that just about every team in the country has a flaw or two. Ask Bama after last night. The SEC teams do have more talent across the board. And every road game will be a challenge. Obviously, a home game can be too. But it's been said ofter that defense travels, and we have a good one, that is improving. I believe we can beat anyone in the conference when we play well. And the coaching job our staff did in Auburn, with a rookie quarterback, missing the top five receivers, and playing an OLine with no experience playing together in week five was a special one.

Texas may kick our butts Saturday. But they are beatable too. I just hope they quit playing their backup quarterback. I think Ewers is more beatable. We'll see. Anyone who doesn't come to play, then plays their best, is vulnerable. Even Coach Sark's team. IF we return to decent health with an extra week to prepare.
 
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Arkansas will peter out like they always do. Lived here since 1982 and they have done nothing but maybe beat a team they shouldn't have every decade or so. I see 2 more wins on their schedule. OU could have beat Tenn like Arkie did but well you know why. Josh H is a good HC not a great one and it shows. Tenn rose to the top like a lot of other media darlings without beating anyone with a pulse. Arkansas had a pulse and exposed them. Lots of other media darlings suffered the same fate this weekend and I love it. The talking heads always have their favorites and they push them every year. Nothing new.

 

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Arkansas issue this year has been the inability to finish. Is Arkansas better than OU right now? Thats a yes and no answer. Currently the difference is they at least have an offense with a pulse and who knows maybe Hawkins finally gives our Sooners a pulse.

Like 67, I have been in Arkansas for a long time and even though my wife is a Hog fan I rarely root for them but this years team is no easy out for anyone. I would not be shocked if they beat LSU in two weeks.

I hope that Hawkins gives OU the spark they need on offense and he certainly has shown he is a gamer. This game against Texas Saturday will tell us a lot about him and SL as its been rumored he has changed the offense to fit Hawkins abilities. We will see.

Having offensive struggles in year 1 of the SEC has not been good timing but at least the defense seems to be legit to keep OU in games. Injuries are a ***** that teams have to overcome though.
 

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Is Arkansas better than OU right now? Interesting question. What players are available would be the factor in the answer. If we had our whole team, and Arky does, we're better. We're far better coached, and that's a big deal. Arky lost their quarterback at the end of the UTenn game. We just won a tough road game, missing our five best receivers. Arky aslo beat Auburn having their whole crew, but we found a way. It might be a challenge to beat them in Fayetteville. But I expect we would. Things are difference when the strength of your team is your defense. We're having to learn a whole new paradigm.
 
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“Punting is winning” says the longest active coach with the same team
 
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Arkansas issue this year has been the inability to finish. Is Arkansas better than OU right now? Thats a yes and no answer. Currently the difference is they at least have an offense with a pulse and who knows maybe Hawkins finally gives our Sooners a pulse.

Like 67, I have been in Arkansas for a long time and even though my wife is a Hog fan I rarely root for them but this years team is no easy out for anyone. I would not be shocked if they beat LSU in two weeks.

I hope that Hawkins gives OU the spark they need on offense and he certainly has shown he is a gamer. This game against Texas Saturday will tell us a lot about him and SL as its been rumored he has changed the offense to fit Hawkins abilities. We will see.

Having offensive struggles in year 1 of the SEC has not been good timing but at least the defense seems to be legit to keep OU in games. Injuries are a ***** that teams have to overcome though.
Arkansas had the same issue last season, they lost a lot of one score games. If they can flip that and they may have vs Tenn then they might just turn the corner.